What would you like to see in Windows 12?

What would you like to see in Windows 12?​

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The resurrection of Windows 7!

If it's malware it's not even trying to hide itself. I get a clean bill every day when Malwarebytes finishes its scan.

I don't find any other processes or functions that appear to be corrupted, just this ALT+TAB function. And it doesn't seem to matter what two open programs I'm using ALT+TAB to switch between.

I've thought about doing a reinstall of Windows. This Dell computer is only two years old so it came with Windows 10 preinstalled. I'd appreciate some suggestions on what to try short of a reinstall. I don't see anything in event viewer that gives a clue, however I don't really know how to read what event viewer is telling me anyway. I get hundreds of faults and failures every day. As you can see from this screen capture I've had almost 5,000 events today.

@larrydonline

Sorry for the delayed response. I'm currently using macOS, but I'll sign in to Windows sometime this week and see if I can replicate this behaviour.

I don't think there is any malware.

Event viewer would throw up hundreds of errors even on a clean install. So I wouldn't bother about it.

One suggestion though: it is often easier and simpler to just clean install/ restore a backup than troubleshooting.

Before I got back to your message I did just that. I didn't know that installing from ISO gave the option of keeping both your person files and your apps. This is the first thing I've done since it finished updating so I don't know whether that mysterious bug in the combination key function is gone or not. I'll post back when I'm sure of the results.

Mark Phelps said:

I like the Time Machine idea the best -- as it would be built into Windows. I use Macrium Reflect to do this, but folks have to KNOW about this and they have to take steps to make the image backup. Would be better if the OS simply did this for them.

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The last thing I would do is rely on MS to provide a reliable backup tool - their track record 9n this and and fixing issues is very poor. Even if one was introduced, I would still use Reflect as its track record speaks for itself.

Just read this Windows 12 article that came out today. I just wonder, with the new 'changes to the operating system' being talked about,
how will old programs previously installed be affected during upgrades and migrations? Will new app software developed to run on a Windows 12 OS environment be installable in Windows 10/11 computers?

mackie said:

Just read this Windows 12 article that came out today. I just wonder, with the new 'changes to the operating system' being talked about,
how will old programs previously installed be affected during upgrades and migrations? Will new app software developed to run on a Windows 12 OS environment be installable in Windows 10/11 computers?

Windows 12: Release Date, New Features, Compatibility and Latest News | The West News

Windows 12: Release Date, New Features, Compatibility and Latest News -

thewestnews.com

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I'm not sure what this means:

Windows 12: Compatibility​

It’s a fantastic software for dealing with various issues because of the new features. As you can see, it’s more compatible than Windows XP was.

dbartenstein said:

I'm not sure what this menas:

Windows 12: Compatibility​

It’s a fantastic software for dealing with various issues because of the new features. As you can see, it’s more compatible than Windows XP was.

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I haven't seen any statements from MS. I wonder how true the article is.

dbartenstein said:

I'm not sure what this menas:

Windows 12: Compatibility​

It’s a fantastic software for dealing with various issues because of the new features. As you can see, it’s more compatible than Windows XP was.

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Same here. It's almost like a link or something has been left out of the article.

Scrolling down the page it looks more like click bait to promote Kelly Clarkson.

Winuser said:

Scrolling down the page it looks more like click bait to promote Kelly Clarkson.

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Yeah, it looks like it's primarily an entertainment site. They have a Tech section under News.

Clearly Windows 11 missed the mark. It's harder than ever to find things especially for rather simple maintenance things like removing old, unused or obsolete drivers. The mysterious thing for me about Windows 11 is that all my other non-Microsoft software works just fine even with OneDrive. Office 365 and OneDrive don't play well with each other. Random files won't open in Excel, Word, Publisher and Access plus OneDrive needs to be reset after a reboot.

I've had endless issues trying to install my printers and get them to operate properly. My laser printer is only five years old and my HP Envy is only two years old.

Microsoft needs to settle on how things should be grouped so it's consistent across Windows versions and within Windows. Why are things named and grouped differently in Control Panel and Windows Settings, for example.

dbartenstein said:

I'm not sure what this means:

Windows 12: Compatibility​

It’s a fantastic software for dealing with various issues because of the new features. As you can see, it’s more compatible than Windows XP was.

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I looked up West News, and it's a small mostly entertainment newspaper in the small town of West, Texas.

I'm sorry, but I'd take this newspaper with a grain of salt . . .

As someone said, Microsoft hasn't chimed in.

Less whining from users about petty crap that they think MS will actually read, listen to or care about.

mavin said:

Less whining from users about petty crap that they think MS will actually read, listen to or care about.

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Just a bit of advice here . . .

When you're the new kid on the block with 10 posts and you tell a bunch of experienced users they're whining, you're going to get more than you bargained for.

I'd like to see Windows 10.

psmjr said:

I'd like to see Windows 10.

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Still there till 2025......

UI Consistency, less crashes/bugs, less push for Microsoft bloatware, ability to customize basic things without having to rely on third party software.

Well, I for one do not want the desktop OS to be anywhere close to phone OSs. I'm not at all sure that the phone OSs are safer - may be they are as long as the system is locked by the manufacturer, but once you "jailbreak" or "root" your phone, it becomes as secure as any other linux machine. Probably less, given the general impression of false security. And no, I don't think you can control which app on your phone connects to the internet. At least on Android, this is not a permission that you can freely take away and for a good reason - nobody would see ads if that were possible.

I certainly don't like the idea of a "store". I can follow Apple's logic where they try to completely lock and control the whole iPhone ecosystem, less so in Android given its fractionalization. On an Android phone, I can use apps from the Amazon store, for example, but only if the Amazon store itself is installed. I much prefer the usual Windows (or any other desktop OS for that matter) practice where programs can be installed without consulting the computer or OS manufacturer. Sure, this might give you a sense of security, but I think it's the false sense only, so does not help me at all. Finally, regular desktop programs just work better than "store apps".

Ultimately, I just don't see any reason to constantly "upgrade" the OS and I am not sure how much the actual OS is being changed with all the Windows versions. Sure, the UI changes (although I would not call all of the changes improvements). Sure, with new hardware you need new drivers. Sure, some hardware features are completely new and as a result some new software features are possible. But ultimately, the overall "Windows concept" stays the same, at least if one disregards the cloud direction.

That brings me to the next point. I don't want cloud. I want my programs to run on my machine regardless of whether it's connected to the network or not. I do not want to "submit jobs" to some supercomputer in the cloud. I can do that if I have to (say, if I have a really large computation to make and my own machine does not have sufficient resources), but this should not be my everyday practice, I definitely do not want to run simple things like Word somewhere remotely.

Finally, I think that before inventing new features for the sake of inventing new features, Microsoft should make the existing features work well. The UI should be streamlined. Customization features should be brought back. Etc., etc., etc.

Mind you, I don't think any of this will happen though ...