Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22458 (RS_PRERELEASE) - Sept. 15

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UPDATE 9/22: Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22463 (RS_PRERELEASE) - Sept. 22

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22458 to the Dev Channel.

TL;DR

  • [REMINDER] Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta Channel because we’ve moved the Dev Channel back to receiving builds from our active development branch (RS_PRERELEASE). This means the builds released to the Dev Channel no longer match the Windows 11 experience that will be released to customers on October 5th.
  • The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.
  • As mentioned previously, it will be a little while before major new features show up. However, this build includes a good set of improvements and bug fixes.
  • There is an issue impacting the Taskbar where icons appear misaligned and/or cut off – see the known issues below.
  • Try out the new Tips app for Windows 11 with a new design and over with 114 new tips!

Changes and Improvements

  • We added a link to the sign-in options under the power menu on Start.
A link to sign-in options has been added to the power menu on Start.
A link to sign-in options has been added to the power menu on Start.

Fixes

[Start]
  • Fixed an underlying issue that was impacting Start reliability.
[Search]
  • Folders with # in folder name can now be added to indexing.
[Settings]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing Settings to crash sometimes when trying to open the Display page.
  • Clicking “More about refresh rate” in Advanced Display Settings now opens the support page it’s supposed to.
  • Fixed an issue where the Location page in Settings wasn’t showing warning text explaining why the location services setting was greyed out if it was greyed out.
  • Changes made to preferences under Manage App Execution Alias in Settings should now be preserved.
  • Fixed a couple typos in the output of dll (Issue #206).
[Windowing]
  • Mitigated an issue that could make certain games unexpectedly crash when using ALT + Enter (i.e., switch between full screen and windowed) during with Auto HDR enabled.
[Other]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing text truncation in the Encrypting File System window in certain cases.
  • Fixed a rare scenario that could result in an uninstalled in-box app unexpectedly reappearing after reboot.
  • Appx commandlets should now work with PowerShell 7.0+ (Issue #13138).
NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 after general availability on October 5th.

Known issues

[General]
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some Surface Pro X’s to bug check with a WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR.
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some devices to bug check with DRIVER_PNP_WATCHDOG error when attempting to update to a recent build.
[Start]
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the Taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
  • System is missing when right-clicking on the Start button (WIN + X).
[Taskbar]
  • IMPORTANT: Icons on the Taskbar are shifted to the side when in the default center alignment, resulting in them getting cut off by the “show hidden icons” button when too many apps are open.
  • The Taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.
[Search]
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.
  • Search panel might appear as black and not display any content below the search box.
[File Explorer]
  • If you right click files in OneDrive locations in File Explorer, the context menu will unexpectedly dismiss when you hover over entries that open sub-menus, such as “Open with.”
[Widgets]
  • The widgets board may appear empty. To work around the issue, you can sign out and then sign back in again.
  • Widgets may be displayed in the wrong size on external monitors. If you encounter this, you can launch the widgets via touch or WIN + W shortcut on your actual PC display first and then launch on your secondary monitors.
[Windows Sandbox]
  • We’re investigating an issue in which Windows Sandbox may not launch for some Insiders after upgrading to this build.
[Microsoft Store]
  • We continue to work to improve search relevance in the Store.
[Windows Subsystem for Linx (WSL) & Hyper-V]
  • We’re investigating reports of both WSL2 and Hyper-V not working on this build on ARM64 PCs such as the Surface Pro X.

Try the Tips app for Windows 11

We’re introducing a refreshed Tips app for Windows 11 that reflects the new look and feel of Windows 11 (with acrylic material), plus additional UX updates. We’ve updated the Tips app with 100+ new tips to help you get started on Windows 11 and learn new things—discover keyboard shortcuts, find ways to optimize your PC, dive into productivity tips for Office, power up your gaming on Windows, and much more! We’re able to fine-tune and add new tips at anytime as we hear feedback from you.

The new Tips app for Windows 11 showing a tip for navigating with touch.
The new Tips app for Windows 11 showing a tip for navigating with touch.

And it doesn’t quite stop there with the Tips app—you’ll notice tips appear throughout Windows 11 to help you discover new things as you go! Check out the new Tips widget on the widgets board, tips as First Run Experiences, and tips for specific experiences within Windows 11. You’ll find tips in 36 languages—tips around the globe! Be sure to do the Quests for the Tips app now live in Feedback Hub. We’ll release the new Tips app to Windows Insiders in the Beta and Release Preview Channels soon.

Important Insider Links

To learn how we made Windows 11, click here. You can check out our Windows Insider Program documentation here, including a list of all the new features and updates released in builds so far. Are you not seeing any of the features listed for this build? Check your Windows Insider Settings to make sure you’re in the Dev Channel. Submit feedback here to let us know if things weren’t working the way you expected.

If you want a complete look at what build is in which Insider channel, head over to Flight Hub. Please note, there will be a slight delay between when a build is flighted and when Flight Hub is updated.

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon


Source: Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22458


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Hi there
that's why I like python -- if one can concentrate on the application rather than the "tecchy" bits then its a win win situation both for the tecchies and the application developers.

For example If i need to create a window with objects in it and get the user to enter a value for example "enter price you want for this car" against a car object -- it's much better obviously for the application programmer to simply say "Create Window - size x,y), create object car, assign property input, accept user input from object car -- and then carry on with search from db or whatever. I'm happy to leave the "techcy" stuff to the "back room boys" so I just can concentrate on the application without having to get into the intracies of the OS on how to actually create the Windows etc.

@BunnyJ

I think CICS had one fatal flaw in it -- at least in earlier releases --if you needed to add new transactions or users I think you had to "bounce" the entire system -- can't be done these days of course - at least not "officially".

IMS sort of solved that problem but that was a hierarchial database which really wasn't very good if you needed any sort of sequential access or even needed to read "reading backwards".

DB2 as a relational system was a lot better but still not a patch on modern DBMS methods - and also the underlying Disk I/O access methods to make the DB queries IBM used were an abomination (VSAM -- Very Stupid Access Method -- or ISAM -- Incredibly Slow Access Method).

Off to pub now for some decent Beer and to watch some English "Foottie" -- Soccer to those in U.S

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Off to pub now for some decent Beer and to watch some English "Foottie" -- Soccer to those in U.S

...actually we play "Wokeball" now :rolleyes: ...or "Kneeball" if you prefer...
 

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Hi there
that's why I like python -- if one can concentrate on the application rather than the "tecchy" bits then its a win win situation both for the tecchies and the application developers.

For example If i need to create a window with objects in it and get the user to enter a value for example "enter price you want for this car" against a car object -- it's much better obviously for the application programmer to simply say "Create Window - size x,y), create object car, assign property input, accept user input from object car -- and then carry on with search from db or whatever. I'm happy to leave the "techcy" stuff to the "back room boys" so I just can concentrate on the application without having to get into the intracies of the OS on how to actually create the Windows etc.

@BunnyJ

I think CICS had one fatal flaw in it -- at least in earlier releases --if you needed to add new transactions or users I think you had to "bounce" the entire system -- can't be done these days of course - at least not "officially".

IMS sort of solved that problem but that was a hierarchial database which really wasn't very good if you needed any sort of sequential access or even needed to read "reading backwards".

DB2 as a relational system was a lot better but still not a patch on modern DBMS methods - and also the underlying Disk I/O access methods to make the DB queries IBM used were an abomination (VSAM -- Very Stupid Access Method -- or ISAM -- Incredibly Slow Access Method).

Off to pub now for some decent Beer and to watch some English "Foottie" -- Soccer to those in U.S

Cheers
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It still came up with the TPM error, so I've bought VMware Workstation Pro so I can add the darn encryption.
I just ran into the same problem trying to update my VM. My desktop is 100% compatible and is running the Beta build on a bare machine without any trouble. It's only when tryin to update the Dev build in VMware that I get the TPM 2.0 error. My desktop is running Windows 11 Pro so I might try using Hyper-V. If I remember right there are some settings for Hyper-V I have to turn on. I'm not sure if I have to uninstall VMware or just make sure it not running and doesn't run when I start my computer.
 

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Just delete the appraiserres.dll from C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\


Let me now if the Mail is fixed in this build(Yahoo mail sync). If not I'll pass, not gonna bother with a new build for a few fixes.
I tried using search in File Explorer and couldn't find that file. I was going to give but decided to try one more time. This time I did a manual search and I found the .dll and deleted it. My desktop is now running this build in VMware 16 Player.
 

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I just look for C:\$WINDOWS.~BT to see if the .dll was there and would need to be deleted again. C:\$WINDOWS.~BT and $Windows.~WS are no longer showing.
 

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I was able to do (or rather try to do) the upgrade first today due some health issues, which have made using the PC quite difficult the past days. Tried three times, all tries failed, reverting to 22454.

First try, the usual through WU. Failed, reverted to 22454. Next try, deleting all WU downloads, running upgrade from ISO. Failed. Third time, again from ISO, but disabling Defender and Firewall plus disconnected every other device than system disk, mouse, keyboard and display. Failed.

All three failed at the same point, at 29% after the first reboot, for same reason:

22458 Upgrade BSOD.jpg

Tried repair install with 22454 ISO, no issues.

Weird!

Kari
 

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Is the only way around this is to use Workstation Pro so you can enable encryption?
Had the issue too. You have to encrypt the vm first, then the TPM module will be available ( This is of course your host machine has TPM 2.0 in the first place).
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I was able to do (or rather try to do) the upgrade first today due some health issues, which have made using the PC quite difficult the past days. Tried three times, all tries failed, reverting to 22454.

Tried now the WU and ISO methods in a Macrium viBoot VM (image from last night), both attempts failed at the same point, with the same error.

Kari
 

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Tried now the WU and ISO methods in a Macrium viBoot VM (image from last night), both attempts failed at the same point, with the same error.
Very weird in my opinion.
 

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I was able to do (or rather try to do) the upgrade first today due some health issues, which have made using the PC quite difficult the past days. Tried three times, all tries failed, reverting to 22454.

First try, the usual through WU. Failed, reverted to 22454. Next try, deleting all WU downloads, running upgrade from ISO. Failed. Third time, again from ISO, but disabling Defender and Firewall plus disconnected every other device than system disk, mouse, keyboard and display. Failed.

All three failed at the same point, at 29% after the first reboot, for same reason:

View attachment 8167

Tried repair install with 22454 ISO, no issues.

Weird!

Kari
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Sometimes I think that Windows has a mind of its own. Hope you're feeling better!
We know for sure windows/Microsoft has a mind of its own!
 

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Don't know if you noticed it, but Microsoft just put up the ISO for 22454, and the download is good through 9/18.


I'm on 22458 now, already grabbed the 22454 .ISOs when they were first made available. Thanks for looking out though!

Has MS mitigated their decision regarding TPM and CPU's yet.. other than "it's got better security features but no-one is interested in it" ?

Technically, yes.

They have stated that users with older hardware will not be offered that upgrade for automatic install via Windows Update, but they will not be necessarily blocked from installing even if they are not offered it.

But then a few days later they go back and start making TPM 2.0 on VMs mandatory as well, so.....

I was able to do (or rather try to do) the upgrade first today due some health issues, which have made using the PC quite difficult the past days. Tried three times, all tries failed, reverting to 22454.

First try, the usual through WU. Failed, reverted to 22454. Next try, deleting all WU downloads, running upgrade from ISO. Failed. Third time, again from ISO, but disabling Defender and Firewall plus disconnected every other device than system disk, mouse, keyboard and display. Failed.

All three failed at the same point, at 29% after the first reboot, for same reason:

<snipped>

Tried repair install with 22454 ISO, no issues.

Weird!

Kari

I had so many issues with 22454 that I finally had to force it to install cleanly on my system by actually disconnecting hardware. Now to see others who had 0 issues with 454 have weird issue son 458 while mine was installed automagically overnight with me not even noticing for the better part of a day is just another example of why I fully believe that, while I truly do like hte OS in and of itself, and am more than willing to run it, bug s and all, as a daily driver, I do not believe that this OS is ready for prim time, and that M4 is setting themselves up for some serious blowback and major fallout with customers if they stick to an October 5th release to the general public.

Yes, I know this to be a fact.

As do I - my current and my previous Credit Unions both use it for apps, the former using the vast majority of their banking systems on an AS/400 (not sure if the current ones do, I haven't actually worked for them, just chatted up a person who does work there).

Whatever gets the job done - but I doubt whether COBOL had enough facilities to handle real time updates and distrubuted databases etc and certainly no idea of OO.

Uh, pretty sure that COBOL has been extended numerous times, including adding OO early in the millennium, though, it can hardly be called a modern programming language by any standard, for sure.
 

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When it comes to 2025 I'd still hope MS still allow few more years flexibility in the use of previous Windows OS, even if without anymore support.
Just come to my thought imagining what would happen to the hospital I used to work with. It has more than 400 workstations with 7th gen Intel and older. The closest OS has been put into options is Linuxmint. Surely they need to plan a training for all end user that barely know anything about system technicality.

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Uh, doesn't something as large as a hospital have actual IT staff for the technicalities? The end users shouldn't have to worry about technicalities, only about using the machines to do their jobs, right?
 

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Sure they have an IT department, and I used to help them handling some issue with hardwares and OS. But it has only 9 IT staffs that already busy maintaining server that connected to various national health care systems, billings, internal system, and many other stuffs that pretty complex as the hospital is now in paperless system. Even the simplest charting, the end user running around the ward with trolley that has laptop on it.

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The hospital is not like typical hosp in town. The site in a suburban area. It's around 7 building with 2 storey each spreading across 13 hectares area that has fiber optics connection.
I need to jog running end to end. 😄
 

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I've never heard about "Invalid data access trap".
Me neither. Sounds like a very sketchy bug check. ...like Windows tried to trick you into giving all your private info but failed to do so. 😂
 

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