Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22458 (RS_PRERELEASE) - Sept. 15

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UPDATE 9/22: Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 22463 (RS_PRERELEASE) - Sept. 22

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22458 to the Dev Channel.

TL;DR

  • [REMINDER] Build numbers are higher in the Dev Channel than the Windows 11 preview builds in the Beta Channel because we’ve moved the Dev Channel back to receiving builds from our active development branch (RS_PRERELEASE). This means the builds released to the Dev Channel no longer match the Windows 11 experience that will be released to customers on October 5th.
  • The desktop watermark you see at the lower right corner of your desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.
  • As mentioned previously, it will be a little while before major new features show up. However, this build includes a good set of improvements and bug fixes.
  • There is an issue impacting the Taskbar where icons appear misaligned and/or cut off – see the known issues below.
  • Try out the new Tips app for Windows 11 with a new design and over with 114 new tips!

Changes and Improvements

  • We added a link to the sign-in options under the power menu on Start.
A link to sign-in options has been added to the power menu on Start.
A link to sign-in options has been added to the power menu on Start.

Fixes

[Start]
  • Fixed an underlying issue that was impacting Start reliability.
[Search]
  • Folders with # in folder name can now be added to indexing.
[Settings]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing Settings to crash sometimes when trying to open the Display page.
  • Clicking “More about refresh rate” in Advanced Display Settings now opens the support page it’s supposed to.
  • Fixed an issue where the Location page in Settings wasn’t showing warning text explaining why the location services setting was greyed out if it was greyed out.
  • Changes made to preferences under Manage App Execution Alias in Settings should now be preserved.
  • Fixed a couple typos in the output of dll (Issue #206).
[Windowing]
  • Mitigated an issue that could make certain games unexpectedly crash when using ALT + Enter (i.e., switch between full screen and windowed) during with Auto HDR enabled.
[Other]
  • Addressed an issue that was causing text truncation in the Encrypting File System window in certain cases.
  • Fixed a rare scenario that could result in an uninstalled in-box app unexpectedly reappearing after reboot.
  • Appx commandlets should now work with PowerShell 7.0+ (Issue #13138).
NOTE: Some fixes noted here in Insider Preview builds from the active development branch may make their way into the servicing updates for the released version of Windows 11 after general availability on October 5th.

Known issues

[General]
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some Surface Pro X’s to bug check with a WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR.
  • We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some devices to bug check with DRIVER_PNP_WATCHDOG error when attempting to update to a recent build.
[Start]
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the Taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
  • System is missing when right-clicking on the Start button (WIN + X).
[Taskbar]
  • IMPORTANT: Icons on the Taskbar are shifted to the side when in the default center alignment, resulting in them getting cut off by the “show hidden icons” button when too many apps are open.
  • The Taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.
[Search]
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.
  • Search panel might appear as black and not display any content below the search box.
[File Explorer]
  • If you right click files in OneDrive locations in File Explorer, the context menu will unexpectedly dismiss when you hover over entries that open sub-menus, such as “Open with.”
[Widgets]
  • The widgets board may appear empty. To work around the issue, you can sign out and then sign back in again.
  • Widgets may be displayed in the wrong size on external monitors. If you encounter this, you can launch the widgets via touch or WIN + W shortcut on your actual PC display first and then launch on your secondary monitors.
[Windows Sandbox]
  • We’re investigating an issue in which Windows Sandbox may not launch for some Insiders after upgrading to this build.
[Microsoft Store]
  • We continue to work to improve search relevance in the Store.
[Windows Subsystem for Linx (WSL) & Hyper-V]
  • We’re investigating reports of both WSL2 and Hyper-V not working on this build on ARM64 PCs such as the Surface Pro X.

Try the Tips app for Windows 11

We’re introducing a refreshed Tips app for Windows 11 that reflects the new look and feel of Windows 11 (with acrylic material), plus additional UX updates. We’ve updated the Tips app with 100+ new tips to help you get started on Windows 11 and learn new things—discover keyboard shortcuts, find ways to optimize your PC, dive into productivity tips for Office, power up your gaming on Windows, and much more! We’re able to fine-tune and add new tips at anytime as we hear feedback from you.

The new Tips app for Windows 11 showing a tip for navigating with touch.
The new Tips app for Windows 11 showing a tip for navigating with touch.

And it doesn’t quite stop there with the Tips app—you’ll notice tips appear throughout Windows 11 to help you discover new things as you go! Check out the new Tips widget on the widgets board, tips as First Run Experiences, and tips for specific experiences within Windows 11. You’ll find tips in 36 languages—tips around the globe! Be sure to do the Quests for the Tips app now live in Feedback Hub. We’ll release the new Tips app to Windows Insiders in the Beta and Release Preview Channels soon.

Important Insider Links

To learn how we made Windows 11, click here. You can check out our Windows Insider Program documentation here, including a list of all the new features and updates released in builds so far. Are you not seeing any of the features listed for this build? Check your Windows Insider Settings to make sure you’re in the Dev Channel. Submit feedback here to let us know if things weren’t working the way you expected.

If you want a complete look at what build is in which Insider channel, head over to Flight Hub. Please note, there will be a slight delay between when a build is flighted and when Flight Hub is updated.

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon


Source: Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22458


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Hmmmm. I suspect that you might have to remove the NVME drive (if that is possible in your Dell AIO) and just have the boot SATA plugged in. Once you have just one device, try updating Win11 again. If successful, THEN plug your NVME back in with the generic SATA driver. Make sure to shut down your computer any time you change hardware or after the install (don't do two things at once with one shutdown.) That is just a wild assed guess using my kludge as a baseline tho.
Thank you, Mr. Pombrio.

Just share information.

I ran Windows 10 Build 19044.1237 and Windows 11 beta 22000.194 well.

but for 22458,I don't need unplug any SSD disk, just need to change HDC to Standard AHCI driver from Microsoft.

Her is my system Dell optiplex 7450 AIO

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Sure they have an IT department, and I used to help them handling some issue with hardwares and OS. But it has only 9 IT staffs that already busy maintaining server that connected to various national health care systems, billings, internal system, and many other stuffs that pretty complex as the hospital is now in paperless system. Even the simplest charting, the end user running around the ward with trolley that has laptop on it.

CB
Hi there

A little while back just pre-pandemic I was doing a great Free Lance contract at Cedars Sinai hospital in W.Hollywood (itself an interesting spot in hidden in the middle of Los Angeles) the -- certainly not a "Backward hospital" or Medical centre by any stretch of the imagination - but to someone used to modern and latest computing equipment I was really amzed by some of the "Old tech" and systems the hospital was using (The medical equipment though was the latest and best money could buy).

For places who have to embrace a lot of security (patient care, details, contracts with pharma companies, insurance societies, etc etc) upgrading zillions of workstations and systems won't be easy and a quick wholesale move say to a VDI Cloud structure certainly isn't a quick project.

One has to then wonder exactly who Ms is aiming to "Sell" W11 systems to - since most of the potential large customers will not be able to make the change quickly or will have long term plans for going to the Cloud.

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One has to then wonder exactly who Ms is aiming to "Sell" W11 systems to - since most of the potential large customers will not be able to make the change quickly or will have long term plans for going to the Cloud.

Cheers
jimbo

Good point. My wife works at a hospital in a pretty rural town. They have thousands of computers. They just upgraded them to Windows 10. Now they'll have to make the move to Windows 11. Good thing they have a 4 or so years to do it. You know it's got to be frustrating for the IT department, though.

In hospitals, you can't not embrace a ton of security because those ransom ware miscreants can shut the entire system down causing untold havoc. Such a shame. They use three-factor security, which is probably too low of security.
 

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Well. MS seems barely gain much since 10 to 11 is a free upgrade but they definitely would cause a big hit in IT's hardware budget in time. I just met the head of IT dept and had little chat about handling this incoming HW requirements for W11. We agreed this is completely different with the time XP was officially stop getting support as there were W7 and W8, and yet no issue around TPM and secure boot. We see it like a force majeure in the routine of IT expense. First serious step is how to convince the stake holder through the executive board about the inevitable change in 4 years to come.
Uh, I haven't that the hospital is a non-profit private company. 🙂
 

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@jimbo45

Well. MS seems barely gain much since 10 to 11 is a free upgrade but they definitely would cause a big hit in IT's hardware budget in time. I just met the head of IT dept and had little chat about handling this incoming HW requirements for W11. We agreed this is completely different with the time XP was officially stop getting support as there were W7 and W8, and yet no issue around TPM and secure boot. We see it like a force majeure in the routine of IT expense. First serious step is how to convince the stake holder through the executive board about the inevitable change in 4 years to come.
Uh, I haven't that the hospital is a non-profit private company. 🙂
Hi there
without going into "Hospital Politics" or Finances == some of these "Non Profit private companies" get huge donations from big corporations, other wealthy individuals and even from individual donors. A lot of tax can then be deducted against the donations so in effect the Govt is also financing some of these places -- nothing wrong with that - it just shows economics is a bit of a "skewed" science and a lot of a countries "National Debt" is actually nothing more than a Giant Ponzi scheme

For those who don't know what a Ponzi Sheme is :



Ask any economist when a country says the "National debt" is so many trillions of dollars -- the following question -- Who is the money actually owed to. If it's businesses and pensioners then they will pay tax on any income from the interest payments etc they get - so it's the same money sloshing around !!!!!!!!!

That Hospital btw also has hundreds of workstations !! would / will be a mammoth task to upgrade and a major Hospital has to run 24/7 regardless. There are also other major non medical services that need to be run as well --Power generation, building / janitorial maintenance, security, ambulance / patient , staff and visitor transport, food, catering, supply procurement both medical and non medical, laundry, plumbing, engineering services, HR, etc etc all of which need I.T systems to be up and running.

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For real now, they check for TPM or other system requirments on a damn virtual machine ?

I cannot install this build on VMware Workstation Pro because its asking for TPM 2.0 and 64 free space disk .....
Darn it.
This was expected to start at some point.

My older VM is still running but we'll have to come up with something when installing from scratch.
I read a lot of posts where modifications are needed in the ISO along the way.
 

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Had the issue too. You have to encrypt the vm first, then the TPM module will be available ( This is of course your host machine has TPM 2.0 in the first place).
Hope this helps

Darn it.
This was expected to start at some point.

My older VM is still running but we'll have to come up with something when installing from scratch.
I read a lot of posts where modifications are needed in the ISO along the way.
Well here we go again, If you have the paid version of VMware workstation 14 and up, just encrypt the darn vm then attach the TPM.
Hint: Use your favorite search engine to find out how.;):unsure:
 

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Whether it's any help or not, apparently a few over on reddit got the same thing and the issue turned out to be the 'Aver Media Capture Card' whatever that is, they reported removing the Aver Media software and all was well again.

Thanks.

I have no capture cards, nor any other external devices except NAS and some HDDs.

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@Kari Sorry to hear they revoked your MVP. That stinks in particular because it shows Microsoft is not open to criticism which, in turn. affects the end results we all see.
 

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I had an opportunity to use PL/1 on a PC in 1984. Absolutely loved it. It was at a government agency that was still using punched cards to send to a remote mainframe for compiling. Make a mistake on a card - you were finished that day.
 

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Thanks.

I have no capture cards, nor any other external devices except NAS and some HDDs.

Kari
Just a suggestion -- I remember some while back Windows was getting hosed up on a new install if any USB devices were connected -- try removing every possible removable device and then have another go. Even disconnect Internet -- build 220458 seems to install without internet connection (you'll have to then use a Local account) --but if you get that far when it prompts for " Whose going to use this PC" you can then re-enable the Internet.

As for encrypting the OS -- especially on a Home (i.e non portable) workstation / desktop computer -- IMO what a rediculously bonkers idea -- keep things simple -- if you start messing about with encryption etc on consumer grade OS's and equipment it's a 100% certainty sooner or later you are going to lose data, possibly importanr irreplaceable data too. For domestic computers not running public accessible web servers or business e-commerce software not hosted elsewhere then maybe but for domestic computers scams and identity theft are much more of a problem than "Old School Hacking" and decent regular backups will even protect against those too. WD defender these days is pretty robust.

Cheers
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Geeks, please: The Insider team and its indivisual members have blocked / muted me. I will never get an answer from them. Please, me posting my tweet about the issue was meant to be a try to get some of you other Twitter users to retweet it, to possibly get the issue told to them.

I am not expecting you to offer opinions or possible workarounds. Please, believe me, I have tried about everything. If you are on Twitter, please retweet. There's no need to discuss my issue here.

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    HP HP ProBook 470 G5
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    Intel Core i7-8550U
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    HP 837F KBC Version 02.3D.00
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    16 GB
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    Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 & NVIDIA GeForce 930MX
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    Conexant ISST Audio
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    Laptop display (17.1") & Samsung U28E590 (27.7")
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Devlin1888

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Ive literally been getting the bsod since maybe 3 or 4 updates ago, Everytime i try and update now since they brought in the little circle spinners instead of the dots i get the PNP driver issue and it reboots without the update, Even though theres been 3 or 4 since i last successfully updated, Any ideas?
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education Build 22483.1011 Developer Build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7 10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    16GB Viper Steel Series 3200mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super X OC Windforce
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 3840X2160 Benq Gl2250 1920x1080
    Screen Resolution
    4K/1600/1440/1080
    Hard Drives
    M.2 - ADATA SX8200 Pro 1TB
    SSD - Samsung 860 evo
    PSU
    Corsair 650w
    Case
    NZXT S340 Elite
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
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    Steel Series Rival 710
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    50mbs
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    Opera GX
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    Windows Defender

BunnyJ

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Ive literally been getting the bsod since maybe 3 or 4 updates ago, Everytime i try and update now since they brought in the little circle spinners instead of the dots i get the PNP driver issue and it reboots without the update, Even though theres been 3 or 4 since i last successfully updated, Any ideas?
This is the best way to post questions concerning BSOD
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home 21H2 22509.1011
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banna Junior 7K - X Series
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VII Hero, X470
    Memory
    Gskill 32GB, 16GBX2 PC3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek (R) Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32" Curved, ViewSonic 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080P
    Hard Drives
    Primary Samsung 256 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    NZXT 510
    Cooling
    Stock AMD cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 350.50 mbps Upload: 12.02 mbps Ping: 15ms
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    Firefox and Edge
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    MS - Defender

jimbo45

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Geeks, please: The Insider team and its indivisual members have blocked / muted me. I will never get an answer from them. Please, me posting my tweet about the issue was meant to be a try to get some of you other Twitter users to retweet it, to possibly get the issue told to them.

I am not expecting you to offer opinions or possible workarounds. Please, believe me, I have tried about everything. If you are on Twitter, please retweet. There's no need to discuss my issue here.

Kari
Hi there
I think there's a load of mis-understanding here so sorry if " I'm stating the obvious". As one who has never used or intends to use sites like Twiitter etc I really don't buy into "re-tweet". If you can't reach your target audience one way try another.

I love these Forums to get ideas from, ask technical questions or get decent solutions from -- but IMO asking people to simply forward your messages to places you've been cut off from -- whether rightly or wrongly is a step too far.

I'm really sorry if this sounds a bit harsh --I love and appreciate most of your content - but there are times when you just have to "let go". If those sites aren't interested any more --"There's a whole planet out there". In any case who really believes any more in what the "Twitterati" or "Instagrammers" say or do any more than a few desparate TV journalists all peddling yesterdays news,

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7

pparks1

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What's Twitter? I've never used it.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.

SlicEnDicE

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For some reason certain if not most of Windows Store Apps fail to update automatically on my laptop. When I open the Store and update the Apps manually, they all install successfully.

The Warning signs are all failed Windows Store App updates and the successful Store App updates are marked with the Information sign. Today i updated the Apps manually:
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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.22509.1011 (Dev Channel)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    400/100Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WSA: Installed
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
    VBS: Enabled
    HVCI: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro, Windows 11 Pro build 10.0.22000.346 (VHDX, OfflineInsiderEnrolled to RP) , Linux Mint 20
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-2600k @4.4GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
    Memory
    16GB 4x4GB 1600MHz CL9
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI GTX970 4GB
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster X-Fi
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    PSU
    750W
    Case
    Fractal Design (something old)
    Cooling
    Noctua
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G710+
    Internet Speed
    400/100Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

magilla

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Any build expected today? Or because the folks at MS are introducing new SURFACE will that overshadow the Win 11 build.
 

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  • Operating System
    windows 10 & 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iBuyPower (special build)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x370 Pro
    Memory
    74 Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung UHD 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung 1 TB SSD each; 1 Samsung PCIe M.2 at 2 TB
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