Windows 11 LTSC - How many people here are using it?


I'm just amateur at this PC stuff, but as I read this thread, I am pondering why so many negative thoughts on what Windows version someone want to use. I'm a member of some Tractor and Automotive forums, and no one there ever has any issues. or negative thoughts, on the Tractors or Cars/Trucks anyone drives. Can someone help me better understand this?
 

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RD Mercer said:
I'm just amateur at this PC stuff, but as I read this thread, I am pondering why so many negative thoughts on what Windows version someone want to use. I'm a member of some Tractor and Automotive forums, and no one there ever has any issues. or negative thoughts, on the Tractors or Cars/Trucks anyone drives. Can someone help me better understand this?
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Windows Pro comes with pre installed apps that are a pain to remove. LTSC has only classic apps and Education strips out everything students and school administrators don't need. They both use an upgrade licence.
 
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NormanF said:
Windows Pro comes with pre installed apps that are a pain to remove. LTSC has only classic apps and Education strips out everything students and school administrators don't need, They both use an upgrade licence.
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Norman, thanks for the follow up. I get one is probably stripped down and more efficient, but my question was, why do “some” here have a negative attitude about which one someone uses? I’ve been a member of many computer related forums for ages, and I’ve never seen anyone have negative comments/opinions on any of the OS someone used back then. Is it just a Windows 11 thing?
 

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RD Mercer said:
Norman, thanks for the follow up. I get one is probably stripped down and more efficient, but my question was, why do “some” here have a negative attitude about which one someone uses? I’ve been a member of many computer related forums for ages, and I’ve never seen anyone have negative comments/opinions on any of the OS someone used back then. Is it just a Windows 11 thing?
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In this thread, I don't believe the issue raised is which version is being used but using a version via violating the EULA. They seem to take pride in it. 🤷‍♂️
Personally I don't care what OS someone uses. Why would I?
 

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HeavyHemi said:
Personally I don't care what OS someone uses. Why would I?
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Thanks for the explanation. I agree, who cares what OS anyone uses, I certainly don’t.
 

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I don`t take pride in using Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC IoT or any other version of windows 11,But its what I have a license for, In fact if I could, I would move to linux permanently, however there are far to many software issues to be resolved for that to happen...

So for me and what I do, Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC IoT is ideal.....

We all come here for the same reason, that we use whatever version of windows 11 deemed necessary🙏
 

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I always compare LTSC with win7..

Its stable, you have to manually install the software you want, instead of spending time uninstalling everything you dont want.
The OS can stay the same over time, so even several years later, the same menu is still the same. The same settings is still on the same place. The deep system modifications is still the same several years later.

Home/pro if you lock the H version to get a stable LTSC'ish version, then you stop get security updates after a while as the H version goes EOL.. and win10/11 EOL is not better then to run win7/8.1 EOL.
This is why LTSC rules.. It is a modern version of Windows 7 where you can decide to only get security updates, and keep a stable system over a long time and you dont have to re-tweak half the system after every versionupdate and go thru all settings after every update.

Home/pro version just dont work for my workflow and my demands on a over time stable system
I plan on installing 2024LTSC next year(2027).. and if MS had been nice to sell individual keys to regular non-business customers i would buy a key... as they dont, i activate with other keys anyway.
So If MS actively dont want to get paid, they dont have to, its their choice. 🤓
 
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i have been trying out Windows IoT LTSC 2024
it only has the very basics when installing
but i would prefer the LTSC over Home
but alas it would be illegal for me to use it as my operating system.

best of luck Steve ..
 

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XxXxX said:
i have been trying out Windows IoT LTSC 2024
it only has the very basics when installing
but i would prefer the LTSC over Home
but alas it would be illegal for me to use it as my operating system.

best of luck Steve ..
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Volume licences are now GA. They used to be almost impossible to obtain. Now they can be had for reasonable cost from legitimate third party resellers.
 

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NormanF said:
Volume licences are now GA. They used to be almost impossible to obtain. Now they can be had for reasonable cost from legitimate third party resellers.
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i have two licences, product key codes, which are valid and work but i am not sure if they are legal or not ..
best of luck Steve ..
 

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Main reason not to use LTSC is it is boring
 

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cereberus said:
Main reason not to use LTSC is it is boring
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that works for me

i have been checking it would seem as long as my product are genuine, which they are, i can use it.
i am just backing up my /home folder and in short while we shall see what we shall see.

best of luck Steve ..
 

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LTSC does have its purposes. Some special software even requires it. I still have to support it myself.
 

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XxXxX said:
i have two licences, product key codes, which are valid and work but i am not sure if they are legal or not ..
best of luck Steve ..
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They are legal. As long as the MAK is valid for the set validations allocated to it, Windows should activate it.
 

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Yeah.. LTSC might be boring....... But.... boring is good. :-)

We talk about an OS that just is an engine to run needed software on....
When things stay the same over time (boring) that increases the workflow and productivity..... and you never get frustrated over the OS as you become forced to shift focus to "fix" the OS instead of continue working/using your computer.
So Boring is good.

All rules do have exceptions.. so do this one.
People that like to spend time under the hood tweaking with the OS on almost daily bases and like to fix broken updates, and new features to play around within the OS itself instead of software... yeah, they should not use LTSC as it is to stable and dont changes with every update. :-)
 

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XxXxX said:
i have been trying out Windows IoT LTSC 2024
it only has the very basics when installing
but i would prefer the LTSC over Home
but alas it would be illegal for me to use it as my operating system.

best of luck Steve ..
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You can download the 90 day evaluation version from MS, for free.

Microsoft "provides" the means, to "legally", re-activate the evaluation version, another 2-3x times.

After this process, the software actually states "licensed", as opposed to some of the uninformed posts, from the pitch fork/sheeple mob here.

"Violation of Intended Use: The "IoT" and LTSC editions are intended for dedicated-purpose, commercial devices (e.g., ATMs, digital signs, medical equipment). Using them as a daily driver on a personal general-purpose PC breaks the designated-use terms."

"Violating intended use", is clearly, completely different, from being illegal.


A business can purchase OEM keys or VLKs, who is to stop them, from then using s/w on machines of their choice !?

Laughable.
 
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Silvio said:
You can download the 90 day evaluation version from MS, for free.

Microsoft "provides" the means, to "legally", re-activate the evaluation version, another 2-3x times.

After this process, the software actually states "licensed", as opposed to some of the uninformed posts, from the pitch fork/sheeple mob here.

"Violation of Intended Use: The "IoT" and LTSC editions are intended for dedicated-purpose, commercial devices (e.g., ATMs, digital signs, medical equipment). Using them as a daily driver on a personal general-purpose PC breaks the designated-use terms."

"Violating intended use", is clearly, completely different, from being illegal.


A business can purchase OEM keys or VLKs, who is to stop them, from then using s/w on machines of their choice !?

Laughable.
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Watch out! The OS Police are watching. 🤣
 

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PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Alienware PC
CPU
Intel i7 4790K
Motherboard
ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
Memory
32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
Hard Drives
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 250 gigabyte SSD
PSU
EVGA 850 watt
Case
Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
Keyboard
HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless
Internet Speed
1.2 GHz
Browser
Chrome..Edge..Firefox
RD Mercer said:
Watch out! The OS Police are watching. 🤣
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If banks decide to use LTSC/IOT on staff workstations, instead of Windows 11 pro reliability roulette, with their huge Microsoft license budgets, is anyone gonna tell them no, you can't do that !?

I think not..:geek:
 

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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Fedora/KDE Plasma F43Xeon 2667 v448GB ECC DDR4nVidia GTX 1650
    OS
    Fedora/KDE Plasma F43
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z640
    CPU
    Xeon 2667 v4
    Motherboard
    Xeon V4 Motherboard
    Memory
    48GB ECC DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX 1650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@144hz
    Hard Drives
    NVME, SSD
    PSU
    850W

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 IOT Enterprise LTSC/RHEL 10.1 KDE ...Intel Xeom 2680 V464gb DDR4 ECCAMD RX560
    Operating System
    Windows 11 IOT Enterprise LTSC/RHEL 10.1 KDE Plasma
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z440
    CPU
    Intel Xeom 2680 V4
    Motherboard
    HP Z440
    Memory
    64gb DDR4 ECC
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD RX560
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Gsync 27" 144hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@144hz
    Hard Drives
    SSD/nVme/HDD
    PSU
    standard 700W
    Case
    standard
    Cooling
    Standard
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    BitDefender
well LTSC installed but activation failed 'no servers found'
even with valid product keys

installed Windows Home activated first time
oh well best of luck Steve ..
 

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System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeRyzen 7 5825u64GB DDR4 3200Ryzen 7 5825u
    OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    RealTek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    PSU
    90W external power brick
    Case
    24" All in One
    Cooling
    Default Air Cooling
    Keyboard
    HP WiFi UK extended
    Mouse
    HP WiFi 3 Button
    Internet Speed
    1GB full fibre
    Browser
    Edge & Firefox
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security/Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software

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    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTSi5 7200u16GB DDR4Intel
    Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Generic WiFi 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
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