Windows Defender vs Kasperkey

Badger · Jan 19, 2023

Wolfzz · Jan 19, 2023

I'm for Kaspersky I have been using it for years and for all of my clients

glasskuter · Jan 19, 2023

Kapersky is headquartered in Moscow Russia and has ties to Russian government. Never would I ever even think about using it.

Kaspersky Lab - Wikipedia

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ShamrockRig · Jan 19, 2023

glasskuter said:
Kapersky is headquartered in Moscow Russia and has ties to Russian government. Never would I ever even think about using it.

Kaspersky Lab - Wikipedia

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Kaspersky is a private global cybersecurity company and, as a private company, does not have any ties to the Russian or any other government. We believe that peaceful dialogue is the only possible instrument for resolving conflicts.
This was a statement from Kaspersky.

They made this pretty clear a few months ago.
None the less, My answer is....defender or even nothing. The best AV is the one between you're ears 100%
I used to use avast, avg and most of the better rated ones( Not all at the same time ofc, gradually over the years) and one day since the first build of win 11. I ditched em and haven't needed any of em since. Its like stabilizers.

glasskuter · Jan 19, 2023

ShamrockRig said:
does not have any ties to the Russian or any other government

And you have 100% proof of this HOW? You believe just because they say they are not tied to FSB? Kapersky was founded in Russia. I do not know about the consensus where you live, but I am American. They could be the ONLY anti-virus company in the world and I wouldn't use or promote their product. But that's just me.

OAT · Jan 19, 2023

It's 16 months old but here it is:
AV-TEST confirms Windows Defender is amongst the very finest antiviruses you get in 2021

larc919 · Jan 19, 2023

I would never use any software produced in Russia or China. Even if there have been no problems in the past, that in no way reduces chances for interference by those governments in the future.

kelper · Jan 19, 2023

glasskuter said:
And you have 100% proof of this HOW? You believe just because they say they are not tied to FSB? Kapersky was founded in Russia. I do not know about the consensus where you live, but I am American. They could be the ONLY anti-virus company in the world and I wouldn't use or promote their product. But that's just me.

And I would not use any AV headquartered in good ol' USA because retailers are allowed to make ridiculous claims with no evidence.

US advertisers are well known for making ludicrous claims. There is very little EFFECTIVE consumer protection in the land of the free, the land of the brave.

Absolutely nothing made in America is automatically better than things made in other countries.

TairikuOkami · Jan 19, 2023

larc919 said:
I would never use any software produced in Russia or China.

Talking about security, people should use only software and services sanctioned by their government.
Talking about privacy, people should not use software and services sanctioned by their government.
I like privacy, I prefer services made in RU/CN rather than in EU/US, enemy agencies do not share.

US government bans Huawei, ZTE and Hikvision tech over 'unacceptable' spying fears

The order affects prominent Chinese telco and surveillance tech makers, linked to human rights abuses, and banned over security fears.

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csun · Jan 19, 2023

Back on subject, could someone please post a summary of the subject vid to save me 13 minutes ?

Is the result one is better ?

TairikuOkami · Jan 19, 2023

csun said:
Back on subject, could someone please post a summary of the subject vid to save me 13 minutes ?

URL test of 670 links:
Defender blocked 3 links - 0.45%
Kaspersky blocked 14 links - 2.09%

Running 74 samples:
Defender detected 93.24% - missed 5 (data encrypted) - Protected folders were not enabled though
Kaspersky detected 100.00% - missed 0 (system is clean)

f14tomcat · Jan 19, 2023

Kaspersky just happens to be one of the products this YT author sells. Might be a slight bias.

What is the best antivirus? — PC Security Channel

Best Antivirus 2021. Check Antivirus/Anti-Malware test results. Find the top products by watching actual performance live on video.

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Josey Wales · Jan 19, 2023

f14tomcat said:
Kaspersky just happens to be one of the products this YT author sells. Might be a slight bias.

What is the best antivirus? — PC Security Channel

Best Antivirus 2021. Check Antivirus/Anti-Malware test results. Find the top products by watching actual performance live on video.

thepcsecuritychannel.com

I used it for a tad in Windows 7. It was better than Avast!

f14tomcat · Jan 19, 2023

Josey Wales said:
I used it for a tad in Windows 7. It was better than Avast!

Anything (almost) would be.

badrobot · Jan 19, 2023

Going back to the topic, Windows Defender for me.
Personally, I think Kapersky and other 3rd party AVs are not really necessary unless you have specific reason for using them.
My past experiences with these AVs are nothing but additional headache. YMMV.
Windows Defender gets it done.

glasskuter · Jan 20, 2023

Interesting reading here from @zbook

Kaspersky Total Renewal Questions?

I installed kaspersky total last year on my old laptop. I first installed it and was going to use the 30 day free trial and also had to enter my credit card information so if I want to continue using kasperky total after 30 days, then I don't do nothing. But I would also have the option to...

www.elevenforum.com

dencal · Jan 20, 2023

On an O/S that is constantly being updated, it makes sense that M/S would be the first to know about any suspicious activity.
W11 is even more secure now, much to the chagrin of people like myself having had to purchase the latest hardware to take advantage of its benefits.
Paid for AVs are a waste of money in my opinion. Testing is only done on known in the wild infections. So what is the point?

dencal · Jan 20, 2023

Badger said:

This post is irrevalent in this Forum.....performed using W10

jimbo45 · Jan 20, 2023

Hi folks
For W11 these days WD is about as good as it gets for domestic versions (i.e non corporate and enterprise systems). WD has been based on the security in AZURE (Ms's Cloud system) which is almost of military strength. In any case for HOME users Identity theft and scamming is far more of a problem than the odd virus / infection.

Since a lot on these forums regularly use WU on all sorts of builds it also makes sense to use the built in security rather than play casino with a 3rd party app which by necessity has to mess around with the kernel and probably the registry.

I doubt if Messr. V. Putin really wants to get 40 roubles out of your bank account. !!!! Hacking infrastructure and causing havoc by denial of service to large important corporates e.g NYSE for example or ATC at a large airport is much more the target for hackers.

Cheers
jimbo

Ghot · Jan 20, 2023

The problem with Defender isn't that it's not capable, because it is capable.
The problem with Defender is that is biased towards Microsoft.

In most cases, this isn't an issue. But in some... ^^

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