StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download



01 - Welcome.png
02 - Start Menu.png
04 - Taskbar.png
05 - Explorer.png
06 - Advanced.png
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Once you enable or create a Toolbar(s), it will always show, locked or unlocked...

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My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
I will need more than a minute, lol, still not getting it.
Only now that you posted the picture I get it, lol. Brain fart, or brain shart rather, lol.
 

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Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
Does anyone know how to make the Copilot icon appear in the taskbar? The icon is present on the classic taskbar after being enabled in the taskbar options, but it is missing from the enhanced taskbar of StartAllBack. I am using Windows 11 23H2 with the latest version of StartAllBack (3.8.1). Thank you for your help.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
StartAllBack 3.8.1.5111 ( Stable )

Check for Updates
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11 ProIntel Core i9 12900KFCorsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200MhzASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom Build
CPU
Intel Core i9 12900KF
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
Memory
Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
Sound Card
OnBoard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
PSU
Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
Case
Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK545
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3
Internet Speed
Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Other Info
Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
I just installed 3.8.1, and ran into a peculiar problem. Ever since Windows 95, I've placed the taskbar to the left. It was a big disappointment when this wasn't possible in Windows 11 for some inexplicable reason. This is the main reason I'm using StartAllBack. After updating to 3.8.1, the taskbar won't unfold when placed to the left when running some programs in full screen mode, most prominently Firefox and some other browsers. I've looked for some setting that could affect this, but without success. Does anybody know if there's anything to do about this?
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Lenovo
Is it just me, or Use new font for class UI do not work anymore? I did not notice any change in classic context menu or classic explorer.
 

My Computers My Computers

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    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)Intel Core i5-12400F16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-12400F
    Motherboard
    B760 GAMING X DDR4
    Memory
    16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440 @ 240Hz
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • At a glance

    macOS SonomaApple M3 Pro18 GB
    Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
i Love the new auto hide taskbar animation !
even better if you have 120Hz or higher refresh rate
i have seen some changes in 3.8 like reimplementation of taskbar,
will it finally be possible for 7 style tray icon system flyout to have dark mode support?
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 22H2 Build 22621.4112 KB5041587Ryzen 7 4800H16GB DDR4 3200MHzRTX 3050 Ti Mobile
    OS
    Windows 11 22H2 Build 22621.4112 KB5041587
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF GAMING A15
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 4800H
    Motherboard
    FA506IEB
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3050 Ti Mobile
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio 192000Hz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop Display 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo 512GB M.2 NVME
    Kioxia OEM 512GB M.2 NVME
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 23H2 Build 22631.4112 KB5041587Ryzen 5 3400GCrucial 16GB DDR4 3200MHzRTX 2060
    Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2 Build 22631.4112 KB5041587
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASRock
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3400G
    Motherboard
    ASRock A320M HDV R3
    Memory
    Crucial 16GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    RTX 2060
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 24" S33GC 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1080P
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 870 500GB Sata SSD
    WD Blue 3.5" HDD 1TB
... will it finally be possible for 7 style tray icon system flyout to have dark mode support?
No, cuz then it wouldn't be authentic 7 Style anymore, would it! :wink:
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
StartAllBack 3.8.2 to test

- Some shell defaults for new user setup

- RTL tasklist fixes

- Fix incorrect icons for exe tasks

- Fix stuck taskbar progress

- Fix notifications not sent by apps

- Fix tasks not uncombining

- Fix tooltips z-order

- Fix Excel 2010 tasks disappearing
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel Core i9 12900KFCorsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200MhzASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom Build
CPU
Intel Core i9 12900KF
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
Memory
Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
Sound Card
OnBoard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
PSU
Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
Case
Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK545
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3
Internet Speed
Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Other Info
Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
Check for updates still does nothing, the 3.8.2 is not on the official site, meh.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11
OS
Windows 11

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel Core i9 12900KFCorsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200MhzASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom Build
CPU
Intel Core i9 12900KF
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
Memory
Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
Sound Card
OnBoard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
PSU
Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
Case
Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK545
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3
Internet Speed
Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Other Info
Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
I subscribed there, for convenience. But somehow, the email notifications from here get to me faster, lol.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11
OS
Windows 11
Just installed version 3.8.2.5125 , its a stable version .
Works very fine.........! (y)
 
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  • At a glance

    Windows11 Pro 25H2i732GBnVidia
    OS
    Windows11 Pro 25H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    ESET
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    Windows11 ProIntel i516GBIntel
    Operating System
    Windows11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    ASUS Basic
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung
    Hard Drives
    one intern , 0ne extern, OS on SSD
    Cooling
    air
    Keyboard
    wireless Logitech
    Mouse
    wireless Logitech
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    ESET
OneDrive context menu started to appear below taskbar Screenshot 2024-08-07 094900.png
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)Intel Core i5-12400F16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (WinMac v1.4.0)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-12400F
    Motherboard
    B760 GAMING X DDR4
    Memory
    16 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440 @ 240Hz
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • At a glance

    macOS SonomaApple M3 Pro18 GB
    Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
I have an external monitor connected to a laptop, and is set as my main display in Windows Settings > System > Display. However, SAB seems to think that this taskbar on my external monitor is a secondary taskbar, but it should be the main taskbar - as it is set as my main display? Due to this I can't get the pinned apps to show up on external monitor. The behaviour is correct using the default Windows taskbar.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11 25H2
OS
Windows 11 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
For the first time, since I can remember, issue/bug with StartAllBack. My start menu button works less than half the time with 3.8.2. Clicking does nothing except change the taskbar (transparent enabled) to opaque. Start menu occasionally opens but only rarely. Restarting Windows Explorer does nothing. Uninstalling and reinstalling did not fix it either. I've reverted back to 3.8.1 and it seems to work normally again.
 
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  • At a glance

    Windows 11Intel i7-7700K32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Western Digital SN770 (System) and 2TB Western Digital SN770 (Storage)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Homei9-11900H32GBIntegrated Intel and Nvidia 3050Ti
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/XPS 15 9510
    CPU
    i9-11900H
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel and Nvidia 3050Ti
    Sound Card
    Integrated (Realtek)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    None
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (non-Touch)
    Hard Drives
    2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
StartAllBack 3.8.3 to test

- Fix Ctrl+Win+number hotkey behavior

- Fix MediaMonkey thumbnail button icons

- Fix primary taskbar not restoring saved monitor maybe

- Fix native start menu not working maybe

- Fix native start menu not closing when clicking orb maybe

 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel Core i9 12900KFCorsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200MhzASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Custom Build
CPU
Intel Core i9 12900KF
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
Memory
Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
Sound Card
OnBoard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440
Hard Drives
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
PSU
Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
Case
Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech MK545
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 3
Internet Speed
Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
Browser
Firefox
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Other Info
Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
Probably a good idea to disable auto updates on these test versions...

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I've had it bounce back to Stable, on it's own, once or twice!

0007398.jpg
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
StartAllBack 3.8.3 to test

- Fix Ctrl+Win+number hotkey behavior

- Fix MediaMonkey thumbnail button icons

- Fix primary taskbar not restoring saved monitor maybe

- Fix native start menu not working maybe

- Fix native start menu not closing when clicking orb maybe


Thanks! I can confirm this fixes the pinned apps not showing on primary taskbar. :-)
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 11 25H2
OS
Windows 11 25H2
Computer type
Laptop
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