StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download

StartAllBack to fix all Windows 11 deal-breaking UI issues

StartAllBack restores taskbar, start menu, context menus, explorer, sanity, style and order!
www.startallback.com


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Seems like some people are having trouble with ExplorerPatcher.

I think StartAllBack will be a more reliable option into the future. I just think it will be better supported.
And it's only a very small price to pay.

It's sad that we even have to do this, but Windows 11 is crippled in some ways.
 

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cdressel said:
Am I missing a setting buried somewhere? Thanks for any help you can offer.
Click to expand...
Mouse middle-click will invoke the native Start Menu, that's pretty much standard with all of them...,
or, a multi-finger gesture of some pre-determined value, that emulates middle click, on a touchpad, if that happens to be the case.
 
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Stigg said:
Seems like some people are having trouble with ExplorerPatcher.

I think StartAllBack will be a more reliable option into the future. I just think it will be better supported.
And it's only a very small price to pay.

It's sad that we even have to do this, but Windows 11 is crippled in some ways.
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Yes from what I've heard it doesn't work well on 22H2. I've also heard that MS removed some stuff that EP relied on.
IDK, I've never used it. It just gives you back the Win10 explorer and taskbar/start which aren't amazing at all. SAB is way better IMO. Not only does it still work, but it also gives you way more options and features.
Windows isn't crippled, all the features are still there. It just doesn't look the way I want it to.

Edwin said:
Mouse middle-click will invoke the native Start Menu, that's pretty much standard with all of them...,
or, a multi-finger gesture of some pre-determined value, that emulates middle click, on a touchpad, if that happens to be the case.
Click to expand...
Great find. I did not know this.
I'll still never use it since it's complete garbage though. lol
 

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Edwin said:
Mouse middle-click will invoke the native Start Menu, that's pretty much standard with all of them...,
or, a multi-finger gesture of some pre-determined value, that emulates middle click, on a touchpad, if that happens to be the case.
Click to expand...
Mouse middle-click can be assigned various key combinations. I can find no combinations that bring up the native Start Menu when using SAB. If I program it to the WinKey, then it does nothing more than exactly what happens when I hit the WinKey itself; i.e., bring up the SAB Menu. What am I missing? I understand I can temporarily disable the SAB Menu but that sort of defeats my purpose. If I go back to Start 11, I can active the native Start Menu without disabling Start11. Thanks for the input. Chuck
 

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Just using Winkey+x does the job with Open Shell and SAB enabled , whats the problem.........??
 

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pietcorus2 said:
Just using Winkey+x does the job with Open Shell and SAB enabled , whats the problem.........??
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On my machine, that key combination does the same thing as right-clicking the SAB Start icon at lower-left. It does not open the native Windows 11 Start Menu, incl. installed programs, etc. I guess that's "the problem" that I have. Thanks, Chuck
 

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cdressel said:
Mouse middle-click can be assigned various key combinations. I can find no combinations that bring up the native Start Menu when using SAB. If I program it to the WinKey, then it does nothing more than exactly what happens when I hit the WinKey itself; i.e., bring up the SAB Menu. What am I missing? I understand I can temporarily disable the SAB Menu but that sort of defeats my purpose. If I go back to Start 11, I can active the native Start Menu without disabling Start11. Thanks for the input. Chuck
Click to expand...
Just press the middle mouse button on the start button, nothing else is required (no key binding).
 

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I don't know what I'm doing wrong but the middle Logitech mouse button does nothing on my machine. . . . As I wrote this, I decided to go into the Logitech settings. I found where I could reset everything back to Factory Settings. Once I did that, I can now click the middle button when hovering over the SAB Start Button and bring up the native Windows 11 Start Menu. Thank you! Any other place on a web page, clicking the middle button brings up the Up/down arrow to scroll the page without rolling the wheel. Toggling the middle button turns that feature off.
I don't believe I've ever changed anything in the Logitech settings before, but a reset sure worked.
Thanks again.
Chuck
 

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I don't know what the hell this but, it ain't workin!!! 🤷‍♂️

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It worked for me in that it launched the 'StartAllBack installation' window but I didn't continue with it since I prefer to wait for stable version. Did you not even get this window or are you saying that the 'Install for me/Install for everyone' options didn't work?

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wiganken said:
Did you not even get this window or are you saying that the 'Install for me/Install for everyone' options didn't work?
Click to expand...
Oh, I installed it alright! There's just nothing different about it! 🤷‍♂️

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    Edge
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See posts #412, #413 and #417
 

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    ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED 14" Laptop - UX3405CA-QL192W
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    1920 x 1200 (16:10 WUXGA resolution) OLED Touchscreen
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Okay..., there's something dickered with this Preview!
I get momentary black flashing on Explorer windows, that's about it...,
aside from that, I see nothing different..., certainly none of these new options...

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I have a suspicion though, that this Preview and QTTabBar are not playing nicely together!
 

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    ASUS VivoBook
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Firefox
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Kaspersky
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Okay..., I see some changes with applets...

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... it's still messin with Explorer though,
this...

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turns to this when clicked on...

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Some Control Center items are broken as well..., but, as I said, it could be QTTabBar! 🤷‍♂️
 
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    ASUS ROG Strix

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
Hello, is there any plan of having the Windows 10 Start menu with live tiles included in StartAllBack? I vastly prefer it to the Windows 7/Windows XP style menus that StartAllBack offers...
Thank you in advance for the reply.
 

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Rosmano said:
... is there any plan of having the Windows 10 Start menu with live tiles included in StartAllBack?
Click to expand...
I kinda doubt it, but, you can snoop around the SAB forums about it.
 

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    ASUS ROG Strix

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    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
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