StartAllBack

Stigg · Jan 24, 2023

Seems like some people are having trouble with ExplorerPatcher.

I think StartAllBack will be a more reliable option into the future. I just think it will be better supported.
And it's only a very small price to pay.

It's sad that we even have to do this, but Windows 11 is crippled in some ways.

Edwin · Jan 24, 2023

cdressel said:
Am I missing a setting buried somewhere? Thanks for any help you can offer.

Mouse middle-click will invoke the native Start Menu, that's pretty much standard with all of them...,
or, a multi-finger gesture of some pre-determined value, that emulates middle click, on a touchpad, if that happens to be the case.

MaRio · Jan 24, 2023

Stigg said:
Seems like some people are having trouble with ExplorerPatcher.

I think StartAllBack will be a more reliable option into the future. I just think it will be better supported.
And it's only a very small price to pay.

It's sad that we even have to do this, but Windows 11 is crippled in some ways.

Yes from what I've heard it doesn't work well on 22H2. I've also heard that MS removed some stuff that EP relied on.
IDK, I've never used it. It just gives you back the Win10 explorer and taskbar/start which aren't amazing at all. SAB is way better IMO. Not only does it still work, but it also gives you way more options and features.
Windows isn't crippled, all the features are still there. It just doesn't look the way I want it to.

Edwin said:
Mouse middle-click will invoke the native Start Menu, that's pretty much standard with all of them...,
or, a multi-finger gesture of some pre-determined value, that emulates middle click, on a touchpad, if that happens to be the case.

Great find. I did not know this.
I'll still never use it since it's complete garbage though. lol

cdressel · Jan 24, 2023

Edwin said:
Mouse middle-click will invoke the native Start Menu, that's pretty much standard with all of them...,
or, a multi-finger gesture of some pre-determined value, that emulates middle click, on a touchpad, if that happens to be the case.

Mouse middle-click can be assigned various key combinations. I can find no combinations that bring up the native Start Menu when using SAB. If I program it to the WinKey, then it does nothing more than exactly what happens when I hit the WinKey itself; i.e., bring up the SAB Menu. What am I missing? I understand I can temporarily disable the SAB Menu but that sort of defeats my purpose. If I go back to Start 11, I can active the native Start Menu without disabling Start11. Thanks for the input. Chuck

pietcorus2 · Jan 24, 2023

Just using Winkey+x does the job with Open Shell and SAB enabled , whats the problem.........??

cdressel · Jan 24, 2023

pietcorus2 said:
Just using Winkey+x does the job with Open Shell and SAB enabled , whats the problem.........??

On my machine, that key combination does the same thing as right-clicking the SAB Start icon at lower-left. It does not open the native Windows 11 Start Menu, incl. installed programs, etc. I guess that's "the problem" that I have. Thanks, Chuck

MaRio · Jan 24, 2023

cdressel said:
Mouse middle-click can be assigned various key combinations. I can find no combinations that bring up the native Start Menu when using SAB. If I program it to the WinKey, then it does nothing more than exactly what happens when I hit the WinKey itself; i.e., bring up the SAB Menu. What am I missing? I understand I can temporarily disable the SAB Menu but that sort of defeats my purpose. If I go back to Start 11, I can active the native Start Menu without disabling Start11. Thanks for the input. Chuck

Just press the middle mouse button on the start button, nothing else is required (no key binding).

cdressel · Jan 24, 2023

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but the middle Logitech mouse button does nothing on my machine. . . . As I wrote this, I decided to go into the Logitech settings. I found where I could reset everything back to Factory Settings. Once I did that, I can now click the middle button when hovering over the SAB Start Button and bring up the native Windows 11 Start Menu. Thank you! Any other place on a web page, clicking the middle button brings up the Up/down arrow to scroll the page without rolling the wheel. Toggling the middle button turns that feature off.
I don't believe I've ever changed anything in the Logitech settings before, but a reset sure worked.
Thanks again.
Chuck

Edwin · Feb 1, 2023

I don't know what the hell this but, it ain't workin!!!

wiganken · Feb 2, 2023

It worked for me in that it launched the 'StartAllBack installation' window but I didn't continue with it since I prefer to wait for stable version. Did you not even get this window or are you saying that the 'Install for me/Install for everyone' options didn't work?

Alex__ASSR · Feb 2, 2023

Edwin · Feb 2, 2023

wiganken said:
Did you not even get this window or are you saying that the 'Install for me/Install for everyone' options didn't work?

Oh, I installed it alright! There's just nothing different about it!

pietcorus2 · Feb 2, 2023

Edwin said:
Oh, I installed it alright! There's just nothing different about it!

View attachment 51568

I cant get this update !
Not with the "search for updates " and not on the site .........
Anyone can help ??

wiganken · Feb 2, 2023

See posts #412, #413 and #417

Edwin · Feb 2, 2023

Okay..., there's something dickered with this Preview!
I get momentary black flashing on Explorer windows, that's about it...,
aside from that, I see nothing different..., certainly none of these new options...

I have a suspicion though, that this Preview and QTTabBar are not playing nicely together!

Wolfzz · Feb 2, 2023

Here you go guys n girls

https://startisback.sfo3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/StartAllBack_3.6Preview_setup.exe

Edwin · Feb 2, 2023

Okay..., I see some changes with applets...

... it's still messin with Explorer though,
this...

turns to this when clicked on...

Some Control Center items are broken as well..., but, as I said, it could be QTTabBar!

Rosmano · Feb 10, 2023

Hello, is there any plan of having the Windows 10 Start menu with live tiles included in StartAllBack? I vastly prefer it to the Windows 7/Windows XP style menus that StartAllBack offers...
Thank you in advance for the reply.