StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download

StartAllBack to fix all Windows 11 deal-breaking UI issues

StartAllBack restores taskbar, start menu, context menus, explorer, sanity, style and order!
www.startallback.com


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05 - Explorer.png
06 - Advanced.png
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Who are you talking to ? The dev does not come here, there is a link above for the "official" forum.
 

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Ataemonus said:
Who are you talking to ? The dev does not come here, there is a link above for the "official" forum.
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Yes, dev (tihiy) does. Read the thread.
Seemed like an innocent inquiry that has already been answered by @Edwin
 

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He does not reply here any longer, I think he mentioned it on the other forum. Plus, he seems to be in a mood most of the time, does not take kindly to requests.
 

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Edwin said:
Yes...

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I knew about it, my problem is I don't want to use it that way, I like the stock taskbar one rather than using StartAllBack it's own taskbar version [+ Windhawk doesn't like it and causes some weird glitches when using StartAllBack own version of taskbar]. I wouldn't have asked here in the first place but thank you! :)

It isn't the end of the world thing but I took a shot and hoped for the best. Classic Shell and Early Open-shell versions had this kind of option so I thought why StartAllBack wouldn't have the same feature? I just got gifted a StartAllBack key and I am having a blast and enjoying it.

Anyway, thanks for the info about official forums. Hopefully he is not harsh on me, all I am asking is "If possible" , that's all :)
 

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THEBOSS619 said:
Is there any possibility to provide an option to show up the start menu on the left side as an override or forced option?
I just wanted to be also on control or forcing it of the location of the start menu should show up rather than following Windows.

In other words, forcing it to align start menu to the left hand corner of screen.
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THEBOSS619 said:
I knew about it, my problem is I don't want to use it that way...
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You lost me man!?!?!? 🤷‍♂️

It does override Windows settings.

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Edwin said:
You lost me man!?!?!? 🤷‍♂️

It does override Windows settings.

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I know what you are talking about. What I meant is I don't want to use StartAllBack it's own taskbar version. I don't want to use "Use enhanced classic taskbar". Since it uses Windows 10 code to override Windows 11 stock ones which I don't want. I would rather have the stock ones :-)
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This is what "classic" means... since it use Win10 ones which I don't want hence I keep it "Off"
 

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THEBOSS619 said:
I don't want to use "Use enhanced classic taskbar"..., I would rather have the stock ones...
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Kinda limits your options though, doesn't it?
Can't create Toolbars, can't move Taskbars around...
 

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Also, it does NOT use Windows 10 code to overwrite anything, it's actually different from both Win10 and Win11.
 

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Ataemonus said:
Also, it does NOT use Windows 10 code to overwrite anything, it's actually different from both Win10 and Win11.
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I don't think it overwrites anything. I was always under the impression that SAB packs it's own set of dll's and just loads an alternative shell.
 

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Edwin said:
Ah! Got ya!
Can't help ya there! Sorry for the confusion! :zip:
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Edwin said:
Kinda limits your options though, doesn't it?
Can't create Toolbars, can't move Taskbars around...
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Oh No worries! It's my bad, I should have been more clearer.

Yeah, my options pretty much limited hence why I asked if it is possible to do it without using "Use enhanced classic taskbar".
Ataemonus said:
Also, it does NOT use Windows 10 code to overwrite anything, it's actually different from both Win10 and Win11.
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Totally agree, it is like a hybrid thing hence the "enhanced" keyword but Windhawk doesn't like it at all and neither FluentFlyout.

All which unfortunately requires stock taskbar to play nicely.
 

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StartAllBack 3.9.19.5344 (Stable)​

Changelog:
  • Disabled explorer prelaunching for 7/10 styles on newer insider
  • Fixed white on white combobox selection on newer insider
  • Removed 'Give access to' from context menu by default
  • Fix start button not unrounded
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StartAllBack can modify your Windows 11 Start Menu, Taskbar, File Explorer, and more to look like Windows 7 or 10.
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Update.... just wanted to report back. I managed to do it! through Windhawk by knowing what line and values to change and editing :wink:

I can now enjoy stock taskbar with StartAllBack + Open-Shell + Windhawk mods + FluentFlyout + FluentMetro.

End results.... :star:
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And with StartMenu :loveit:

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Not a single one of them touches any system files as well, Thanks for at least trying to help guys, Sayonara !:shawn::ufo:
 

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Is it only me? After latest stable update, flyouts (volume for example) on taskbar sometimes dont work. I have to restart explorer for them to work.:rolleyes::unsure:
 

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Thorenzz said:
Is it only me? After latest stable update, flyouts (volume for example) on taskbar sometimes dont work. I have to restart explorer for them to work.:rolleyes::unsure:
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Here's what I get from the Audio flyout...
Half of the flyout is hidden off screen.
Restarting Explorer corrects it.

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Thorenzz said:
Is it only me? After latest stable update, flyouts (volume for example) on taskbar sometimes dont work. I have to restart explorer for them to work.:rolleyes::unsure:
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My one system has been behaving in this regard since 01 December. But I did block the update on a 2nd system, so as to avoid the others the one system is experiencing.
The update did break my QTTabBar functionality, where tabs (and other features) aren't visible. I've since read it's related to UI bugs introduced by the recent update.
Microsoft admits major Windows 11 25H2 UI features broken too alongside 24H2 on some PCs
 

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Interesting... :unsure: I am on insider build 26220.7271. Maybe is just that. I wonder if it behaves the same on stable build.
 
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Thorenzz said:
Interesting... :unsure: I am on insider build 26220.7271. Maybe is just that. I wonder if it behaves the same on stable build.
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NONE of my PCs use insider builds and they all present this issue. Another thing I've noticed is sometimes the pop out will display at the bottom and then a subsequent opening will display it at the top where my taskbar is located.
 

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For me position is fine. It just stops working after while. :unsure: :rolleyes:

Here is what happens when its fine:
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And here when it does not work:
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Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
HP Victus 15
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 5600H
Memory
16GB (2x8GB) Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia RTX 3050
Monitor(s) Displays
1080p IPS 144Hz (Laptop Screen) + 3x 1080p 60Hz screens
Screen Resolution
4x 1920x1080 monitors
Hard Drives
M.2 NVMe 512GB Samsung - PCIe 4.0x4 - Main system drive

USB-A and USB-C M.2 NVMe Enclosure with NVMe SSSTC 256GB - NVM Express 1.3 - Ventoy with all install files and all ISO images i use.

USB External SSD Kingston XS100 1TB - USB 3.2 Gen 2 - WindowsToGo (Clone of my existing Sytem), and all games I play.

USB External SSHD Seagate FireCuda 2TB - USB 3.0 - For Macrium system images, data, photos, stays always safe at home
PSU
200W
Cooling
Zalman ZM-NC3 Cooling pad
Keyboard
Dell KM7120W
Mouse
Dell KM7120W
Internet Speed
1Gb/s down / 500Mb/s up
Browser
Chrome
Antivirus
Windows Defender
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