Solved 24H2 is awful

cheaterslick said:

Sometimes phones don't cut it for certain things, and not everybody can afford a MacBook Pro. That's where mid-priced Windows laptops & desktops come into play. Not to mention some people have to do some of their work at home and it requires using Windows. There are all kinds of different scenarios out there.

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if they need to do work thats not avg user

24H2 was awful, until I got WordPad back.



And classic Notepad as well...




There are many different ways to get them back. But the links above, are...

cheaterslick said:

Sometimes phones don't cut it for certain things, and not everybody can afford a MacBook Pro.

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Not everyone needs a MacBook pro. You can get a certified refurbished (from Apple), MacBook air m2 for $849. That's cheaper than my cell phone

TraderGary said:

Ok! Maybe she's average then. She always inherits my old computers. Right now, she's using my old Dell XPS 9510 laptop. She uses it for web surfing mostly on Amazon, Facebook, email, etc. She plays a lot of solitaire, mahjong, etc. She doesn't want to learn anything about computers, she just wants to use them. She loves her Pixel 7 Pro smart phone. As far as wives go though, she's way above average!

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Except for the internet and email that's exactly the way my wife uses her laptop. Anything beyond that and it's "Hey Hon".

Cromax said:

if they need to do work thats not avg user

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If that's as far as the go then yes they are.

At first I did not like new notepad (thinking it had over complicated a simple tool) but now I love it as I keep the last ten or so tabs open pointing to various text files I have been using recently or use a lot.

No need to remember text file name or location.

To all those moaning about the new notepad, give it a fair trial and then decide if you want to revert.

I am always amused when people knock tabs in notepad, file explorer etc. but are quite happy to have a zillion tabs in their browser LOL

cereberus said:

I am always amused when people knock tabs in notepad, file explorer etc. but are quite happy to have a zillion tabs in their browser LOL

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It's not so much Notepad just having tabs.
It's the fact that there's no way to close them... all, if I choose to.
Even closing Notepad won't clear the tabs.

THAT is the "broken" part of the new Notepad.

It's just another of MS's lost list of things where the user has NO choice.
There's no need for any App or Setting to be... "no choice".

Microsoft: "It's my way or the highway, pal".





I can just close the browser to clear ALL the tabs, if so desired.

Thank goodness I use a swapable drive bay! I updated on a test SSD from 23H to 24H(ell). Half of my network devices didn't show up! 1 a NAS and the others were all PCs. I tried everything I could find to try to get them to show up again. Nothing worked. Matter of fact something I tried disallowed access to anything on my network when using a browser and the IP of the device!

Rolled back to 23H...no issues. So I paused updates on all my other PCs until I can make the network work again.

TairikuOkami said:

As far as Windows goes, you have 2 options:
1. Use the latest supported version, currently 22H2

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Why do you say that 23H2 is not supported?

Ghot said:

24H2 was awful, until I got WordPad back.

How to get Classic WordPad for Windows 11 (26020.xxxx and onward).

You can find this in the Get Classic Apps section of Winaero Tweaker (down at the bottom of the list). You can also just go straight to the site, if you don't use WinaeroTweaker...

www.elevenforum.com

And classic Notepad as well...

I have a question about the "new" Notepad (24H2)

Yes that's what I did, I said "I replaced the new Notepad (tabs) with the old one (without tabs)" No trace of Notepad with tabs, no registry key changes, etc...

www.elevenforum.com

There are many different ways to get them back. But the links above, are...

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But you cannot get back the non-immersive taskbar. Version 23H2 was the last one which had it.

Cromax said:

if they need to do work thats not avg user

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It became avg after COVID hit. Most certainly.

And no, I don't make or look for excuses to let Microsoft off the hook, here.

pparks1 said:

Not everyone needs a MacBook pro. You can get a certified refurbished (from Apple), MacBook air m2 for $849. That's cheaper than my cell phone

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There's always exceptions out there. My original point still stands.

I’m not a big text file user, but have been using free EditPad Lite for years.

cheaterslick said:

I'm still on 23H2 and I'm in no hurry. And even that, I came to it late.

No thanks. I'll let other people be Microsoft's guinea pigs.

And life is good.

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Life is good! Oink-oink. Sweek-sweek.

Ghot said:

It's not so much Notepad just having tabs.
It's the fact that there's no way to close them... all, if I choose to.
Even closing Notepad won't clear the tabs.

THAT is the "broken" part of the new Notepad.

It's just another of MS's lost list of things where the user has NO choice.
There's no need for any App or Setting to be... "no choice".

Microsoft: "It's my way or the highway, pal".
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I can just close the browser to clear ALL the tabs, if so desired.

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Ghot said:

It's not so much Notepad just having tabs.
It's the fact that there's no way to close them... all, if I choose to.
Even closing Notepad won't clear the tabs.

THAT is the "broken" part of the new Notepad.

It's just another of MS's lost list of things where the user has NO choice.
There's no need for any App or Setting to be... "no choice".

Microsoft: "It's my way or the highway, pal".
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I can just close the browser to clear ALL the tabs, if so desired.

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It just took me 2 minutes to close 50 tabs even doing them individually. It would take you a damn site longer to upen 50 tabs in sequence with old notepad!

I'm a fan of notepad with tabs. And also reopening things I had open before, as I take a lot of different notes for work and notepad is my tool of choice.

Easiest option is just to close each tab when you are done with it, if you don't want multiple things open.

Also, there are some settings you can change by hitting the gear icon and you can have notepad start a new session when you launch it.

Marcus Vinicus said:

For me the most interesting changes in 24H2 are to drivers, of which there are numerous. The 'under the hood' changes never do get much publicity when a new version of Windows is released. In particular the WDDM display drivers are getting an update.

What's New in Driver Development for Windows 11, Version 24H2 - Windows drivers

This section describes new features for driver development in Windows 11, version 24H2.

learn.microsoft.com

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That was interesting reading, i read about the new Audio ACX-drivers, and even if i am not an developer of any kind it seem like they want to phase out the old kernel streaming, and have the ACX to be the new low latency driver to adopt to, because of all the codecs and dsp's that are here to stay. but i can also have misunderstood MS article.
Thanks for sharing it.

Ibanez said:

That was interesting reading, i read about the new Audio ACX-drivers, and even if i am not an developer of any kind it seem like they want to phase out the old kernel streaming, and have the ACX to be the new low latency driver to adopt to, because of all the codecs and dsp's that are here to stay. but i can also have misunderstood MS article.
Thanks for sharing it.

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No problem, the issue is for some that they just take the negatives out of these major new Windows updates, moan and don't pay attention to the improvements that are included. I've never used a new version of Windows that hasn't had some initial bugs and gremlins included.

Marcus Vinicus said:

I've never used a new version of Windows that hasn't had some initial bugs and gremlins included.

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Yeah, but it's the poltergeists that bother me.

Marcus Vinicus said:

No problem, the issue is for some that they just take the negatives out of these major new Windows updates, moan and don't pay attention to the improvements that are included. I've never used a new version of Windows that hasn't had some initial bugs and gremlins included.

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Exactly, i agree, the new version hav it's quirks, but the link you gave was an big improvement, i also read about the WDDM display driver update, also an big improvement. The only bug i found so far is that if you set monitor to turn off, and have 30hz, or any other refresh rate, and wait till monitor looses the signal and goes into standby , Windows will auto set to 59.94hz for some odd reason, and i only use one monitor for most of the time, sometimes i use an dummy hdmi dongle if i need access via team viewer to get an resolution that is not 1024x728, when i'm i headless mode, and i use an Tab A8.
If i then connect my monitor and have dual screen via team viewer on tablet, then it keep my settings and if i have set it in 30 hz to save power it stays there after waking up again. but MS has gotten that via feedback hub, so i hope they will fix it. i can't do much more about that. And i also having that sfc and 8.6gig bug, but i don't care about it for now, they will fix those, that's for sure.
I am overall happy with the update, and thanks to the link you shared i hoping to see more improvements from both graphics and audio vendors to starting to use those new benefits to visual and audio drivers to be even better with even lower latency and much more. Underlying improvements are as important as the one that everyone sees, they have moved some stuff to settings from control panel also i believe, so it moves slowly to the new gui, which is good also.
Up to each to install or not, nothing is really right or wrong here.
No need to make it more horrible than it really is.