Solved Cumulative Update Fail KB5058411


When secure boot was on PC locked up when applying updates. Turned off the process completed albeit after several re-boots. What this has to do with missing drivers is beyond me! 🫨
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro Workstation 24H2 26100.4061
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Manmade
    CPU
    Xeon W7-3455
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte MW83-RP0
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    256Gb
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    RTX 4500 ADA
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    RealTek
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    LG 32UN650P
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    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Boot: Transcend TS1MTE250H. Storage: Sabrent SB-RKT4P. Backup: Toshiba MG08ADA600E
    PSU
    Corsair 850W
    Case
    BeQuiet 802
    Cooling
    Noctua D9
    Internet Speed
    51Mb
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    24H2 26100.4061
No rhyme or reason that I know of, there are simpler methods to attempt before spending a day (or days) analysing (in my opinion).
I now always reply to update error threads with; Disable Secure boot, turn off AntiVirus. More often than not, this offering is ignored, only to discover after multiple posts that the member should, or is directed to; Disable Secure boot, turn off AntiVirus. TaDa!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Anyway, I am glad you sorted it out, SirPig

Bacon for EVERYBODY!!!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
antspants said:
I’m not all certain as to why. I just know from paying attention in this forum, that the two things to try before jumping through hoops, when an update issue occurs are:
  1. Disable Antivirus
  2. Disabling Secure Boot.

Sorry that I don't know the intricate’s, it’s weird as obviously these updates are directly implemented by Microsoft.

I know that it relaxes security restrictions that might interfere with the update process. Specifically that Secure Boot verifies the authenticity of the bootloader, and if it's not properly signed, the system might refuse to boot after an update. Disabling it allows the system to boot without this check, potentially resolving update-related boot problems. <- That;’s as close as I have come to understanding. Why would an update have anything to do with the boot loader? It’s all too Monty Python for me.

Go figure?
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Yeah... I assumed that it must be checking more than that, but I've never really read up on it.

EDIT: A quick review informs me that it checks more than just the bootloader itself. It's also checking the signatures on the very basic/initial components of the operating system. At least one of those belongs to MS.
 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 7 155H
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc integrated
    Hard Drives
    SSD
Levitate11 said:
Yeah... I assumed that it must be checking more than that, but I've never really read up on it.
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These days I operate on a “I really need to know” basis. My poor old head doesn’t have the capacity anymore. Overloading generally results in a family intervention.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Finally completed after 3 failures and a really slow download, high traffic maybe. The update also reset my netplwiz setting.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    Crucial 32GB DDR4 3200mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Realtek S1220A 7.1 DTS:X Ultra
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 32in 4K Asus 27in 1K
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 144Hz 1920x1080 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    10TB 3 Nvme's & 2 SSD's
    PSU
    EVGA 220G3750
    Case
    Antec 1200 w/8 fans
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A
    Keyboard
    EVGA Z12
    Mouse
    Razer Deathadder v2
    Internet Speed
    GFiber 2GIG
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    SONY WH-XB910N,
    7 Altec Lansing speakers
Hemimax said:
Finally completed after 3 failures and a really slow download, high traffic maybe. The update also reset my netplwiz setting.
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What was the successful factor? Was it simply the successful download?


Hemimax said:
The update also reset my netplwiz setting.
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Weird.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
2-3 restarts for the download but just 1 for the install. Both were much longer than usual.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    Crucial 32GB DDR4 3200mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Realtek S1220A 7.1 DTS:X Ultra
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 32in 4K Asus 27in 1K
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 144Hz 1920x1080 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    10TB 3 Nvme's & 2 SSD's
    PSU
    EVGA 220G3750
    Case
    Antec 1200 w/8 fans
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A
    Keyboard
    EVGA Z12
    Mouse
    Razer Deathadder v2
    Internet Speed
    GFiber 2GIG
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    SONY WH-XB910N,
    7 Altec Lansing speakers
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