Having to Upgrade my PC

jaylob4 · Nov 9, 2024

Catnip said:
Ok. The connector marked 2 in the picture is a USB-C connector made to go on your motherboard. I looked at your motherboard, and if I am looking at the right motherboard, you have no place to plug that cable in, so the USB-C port on your front panel is not going to work.

You need to buy a USB-C card that fits in your computer with that connector on it or there is no way this is going to work. Period.

I believe that this card may work for you, since it has the connector that you need:

USB C 10Gbps PCIe 3.0 Card,PCI Express x4 to USB 3.2 Type-C and Type-A 10Gb/s with Type-E A Key & USB 3.0 20Pin Motherboard Header Expansion Card for Front Panel w/ Full-Profile & Low-Profile Bracket - Newegg.com

Buy USB C 10Gbps PCIe 3.0 Card,PCI Express x4 to USB 3.2 Type-C and Type-A 10Gb/s with Type-E A Key & USB 3.0 20Pin Motherboard Header Expansion Card for Front Panel w/ Full-Profile & Low-Profile Bracket with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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It will have to fit in your second PCIe x16 slot. (PCIE16_2 on the motherboard). Keep in mind that using this card may affect the bandwidth of your GPU's PCIe connector. Check your motherboard manual to find out.

Thank you @Catnip, I was hoping I had a plan C-D alternative but I think @bobkn has answered it.

The feasibility of coming off the back of PC USB C port with a cable, through the PC and connect to the hub cable in question, never occured to me it might not me a charging USB C.

So expansion card or leave it, hmm.

bobkn · Nov 9, 2024

spapakons said:
Exactly what I said. Since your motherboard doesn't have a header (connector) for number 2, you need an adapter from number 2 to number 1. I don't know how it is called, so I cannot Google and suggest one for you, but you get the idea. Hopefully your local PC store has such an adapter or can order one from their suppliers. Just show them the picture and explain what you want.

EDIT: I think I found one:

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That's an adapter from the USB 3.0 (port 8, in post 158).

The hub already has a connector that'd use it. For two Type A ports.

I suppose that "Jaylob4" could use that, plus a USB2 to USB3 adapter. No charging, though, if he wants that.

jaylob4 · Nov 9, 2024

spapakons said:
Exactly what I said. Since your motherboard doesn't have a header (connector) for number 2, you need an adapter from number 2 to number 1. I don't know how it is called, so I cannot Google and suggest one for you, but you get the idea. Hopefully your local PC store has such an adapter or can order one from their suppliers. Just show them the picture and explain what you want.

EDIT: I think I found one:

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Thank you and you did.

1 )It would appear due to my lack of knowledge, I can't connect the USB C cable from the front hub to a header on my MB as there isn't one.

2) Even If I could it might not do what I had planned, to charge a device/cell phone off the front port, not a problem I have other means of doing this.

jaylob4 · Nov 9, 2024

bobkn said:
That's an adapter from the USB 3.0 (port 8, in post 158).

The hub already has a connector that'd use it. For two Type A ports.

I suppose that "Jaylob4" could use that, plus a USB2 to USB3 adapter. No charging, though, if he wants that.

And in using that where then on the MB would I connect an adapter.

bobkn · Nov 9, 2024

jaylob4 said:
Thank you @Catnip, I was hoping I had a plan C-D alternative but I think @bobkn has answered it.

The feasibility of coming off the back of PC USB C port with a cable, through the PC and connect to the hub cable in question, never occured to me it might not me a charging USB C.

So expansion card or leave it, hmm.

There's another option, that just occurred to me.

USB Type C male to USB Type E female adapter. https://www.amazon.com/rgzhihuifz-E...cphy=1014673&hvtargid=pla-2334475572934&psc=1

You'd plug it into the rear USB C port, and plug the front panel cable for USB E into it. (I didn't know that connector was designated as E.) You might need a USB C extension cable.

It's a bit of a kludge, but it wouldn't require an add-in card.

But it won't get you USB-C charging. Your motherboard doesn't support that.

bobkn · Nov 9, 2024

jaylob4 said:
And in using that where then on the MB would I connect an adapter.

To a USB 2 header. One of the two in item 9 in post 158.

jaylob4 · Nov 9, 2024

bobkn said:
To a USB 2 header. One of the two in item 9 in post 158.

Thanks.

jaylob4 · Nov 9, 2024

bobkn said:
There's another option, that just occurred to me.

USB Type C male to USB Type E female adapter. https://www.amazon.com/rgzhihuifz-E...cphy=1014673&hvtargid=pla-2334475572934&psc=1

You'd plug it into the rear USB C port, and plug the front panel cable for USB E into it. (I didn't know that connector was designated as E.) You might need a USB C extension cable.

It's a bit of a kludge, but it wouldn't require an add-in card.

But it won't get you USB-C charging. Your motherboard doesn't support that.

It's my stupid fault, I thought USB C port at back of PC or in the front hub would be charging ports.
Thanks anyway, neat idea.

bobkn · Nov 9, 2024

Just for fun, I checked Newegg to see whether an AM4 board with a USB E and USB 3.0 headers exists. I only found one: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK-MAX-WIFI/Overview

No mention in its manual of charging, though.

SIW2 · Nov 9, 2024

phone will charge using usb3 gen1 ( which is also known as usb3.0 ). that is what i do. not superfast but it does the job.

usb A to C adapter usually comes with phones. plug the A end into any of the blue ports.

If you havent got an A to C adapter they are easily found. People use them for all sorts of things like those vape mods can be charged using the normal usb3 ports ( usually blue)

The special usb C charge ports ( that you apparently dont have ) do the charging more quickly, but who cares.

Anker-Charger-Braided-Standard-Charging/

these can also do fast charging

bobkn · Nov 9, 2024

SIW2 said:
(snip)

The special usb C charge ports ( that you apparently dont have ) do the charging more quickly, but who cares.

(snip)

I never charge anything off a PC port, fast or slow.

SIW2 · Nov 9, 2024

bobkn said:
I never charge anything off a PC port, fast or slow.

Why are you telling us that.

bobkn · Nov 9, 2024

SIW2 said:
Why are you telling us that.

Who cares? (That's a quote.)

spapakons · Nov 10, 2024

If your motherboard has a single USB 3.0 header, you need something like that to get two headers, and then connect the USB 3.0 cable from the panel to one and the adapter (see my previous post) to the other and finally the Type C cable from the panel.

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jaylob4 · Nov 11, 2024

spapakons said:
If your motherboard has a single USB 3.0 header, you need something like that to get two headers, and then connect the USB 3.0 cable from the panel to one and the adapter (see my previous post) to the other and finally the Type C cable from the panel.

Pardon our interruption...

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Apologies late in replying, got a bit involved in my other thread.

Both your solutions for USB C should work for the front Hub, what I'm not sure of is if the the front USB C port is data only or charging and data.

What I do know is the rear USB C port is both charging and data.

Meanwhile had my PC on the kitchen table fitting new front/rear Port Hubs and thought I would take the opportunity to replace both case fans.

Front fan, ( 4 pin ), connects directly to the MB, ( ASUS TUF B550 Plus wifi ll ), but can't find a 2nd header to power another fan, is there one?

My old fans had Molex connectors so no issue connecting to PSU, but it doesn't have 4 pin connector/s to connect a 2nd fan to.

spapakons · Nov 11, 2024

Of course, it's called fan splitter.

Amazon.com

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The USB type C on the panel should be fully functional (data and charging).

Dronix · Nov 11, 2024

jaylob4 said:
Front fan, ( 4 pin ), connects directly to the MB, ( ASUS TUF B550 Plus wifi ll ), but can't find a 2nd header to power another fan, is there one?

You have five connectors, not counting for water cooling.

Dronix · Nov 11, 2024

spapakons said:
Of course, it's called fan splitter.

The main thing is not to overdo it. It has all 1A fan connectors. We also need to pay attention to the power consumption of the fans,
otherwise you can exceed the Max Current and Max Power.

jaylob4 · Nov 11, 2024

spapakons said:
Of course, it's called fan splitter.

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

The USB type C on the panel should be fully functional (data and charging).

Yes I know that but was hoping there was a spare one on the MB I had missed/couldn't see, instead of adding more cables.

The inside of my PC can not be called cable tidy.

jaylob4 · Nov 11, 2024

Dronix said:
You have five connectors, not counting for water cooling.

Thank you, this connector fits the header circled in green on MB, to the best of my knowledge it does not fit any circled in Red.

I don't control my fan speeds, I turn PC on and they spin happily, full throttle.

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