Is this normal for Windows 11??


Esotericnoob

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Hello!

I bought a HP 15-DW1402NO 15,6" laptop for 5500NOK, about 560USD. It came with windows 11 installed, and I was for sure happy about that.

The problem is that it crashes all the flipping time, I can't have more than a couple of Google Chrome tabs open before it shuts down Chrome. If I try to run both Chrome and Spotify the computer crashes. I've tried to google and ram usage seems to vary a lot from different post. I found comparisons between W11 and W10 which show approximately the same ram usage for both operating systems...

I've posted prntscrn from task manager down below. Is this normal..? Would it help to reinstall W11, or should I downgrade to W10? My old laptop had 4GB ram, and that was more than enough for schoolwork, and I could have like 15 tabbs open, no problem...


4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz
 

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP 85F1 (U3E1)
    Memory
    4.00GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel UHD Graphics (HP)
You can try with other browsers, maybe Edge, which is Chromium based, just to see what the difference is stability wise. It is possible there might be an issue/ conflict with your sound drivers, you mention Spotify and Chrome together trigger a crash, is this when playing music or just with both apps and some tabs open?
Try a different player app, Windows media player for example, just to test.
Although you can run Win11 with 4Gb RAM you are pushing the boundaries I would think.
To free up memory you can try disabling as much that starts with Windows as possible, maybe turn off the Sysmain service temporarily (doesn't use a lot of RAM, but every little helps when testing), maybe try increasing virtual memory.
Unless you are overclocking the laptop, which I am not even sure is possible, I have to query the use of XTU, unless it is used as a hook for some HP or 3rd party monitoring software.
Don't make too many changes at once, reboot between changes and as always suggested on these forums, make a system image (and rescue disk, and TEST it) before tinkering just in case, Macrium Reflect Free is often recommended by users on these forums and there are some excellent tutorials on using it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
    Memory
    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Tuff RTX 3080 10GB OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte G32QC 32inch 16:9 curved @2560 x 1440p 165Hz Freesync Premium Pro/ Dell SE2422H 24inch 16:9 1920 x 1080p 75Hz Freesync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p & 1920 x 1080p
    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H150i RGB Pro XT 360mm Liquid Cooler, 3 x 120mm fans, 1x Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    800Mbs
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes
My Win 10 and my Win 11 use between 3 and 5GB of RAM, normally.

With Firefox open with 4 tabs, and not restarting for a few days, my RAM usage was sitting at 4.8GB
After restart, with same things open... I'm sitting at 3.0GB.

In other words... 4GB isn't really enough RAM anymore, unless you plan on restarting a lot.

I don't have a lot of things running in the background either.
I don't use Widgets or News and Interests, just about all the Windows apps are gone.

I have AIDA64 and Bitdefender running, and my Firefox with the usual 4 tabs... that's about it.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
The image displayed that the computer is using 1 of 2 DIMM.

Run the Crucial scanner and view RAM options:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
The image displayed that the computer is using 1 of 2 DIMM.

Run the Crucial scanner and view RAM options:

THIS



Or if you bought it in a store... take it back and tell them to put another 4GB of RAM in there.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3880 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
If there is still time, I'd send it back and get something with more ram. Although the minimum requirements for 11 says 4GB, I'd go for at least 8GB, preferably more. If you can't send it back, grab some more RAM, as zbook says the Crucial scanner will tell you what fits.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stormforce Prism RTX 3070
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus AMD TUF Gaming X570-Plus ATX Motherboard – Aura Sync RGB
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung U32H850UMU 32 inch 4K
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1 x M2.2
    1x M2.1
    5 x HDD
    Cooling
    Cooler Master 120L AIO Watercooler
    Keyboard
    Rii wireless
    Mouse
    Generic cable
    Internet Speed
    320Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox & Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
Also note that you have Intel iGPU which could be using up to 1Gb RAM so on top of Windows usage that would leave about 6ooMB free RAM for running apps. opening tabs etc.
Napkin math, just an guesstimate. :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
    Memory
    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Tuff RTX 3080 10GB OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte G32QC 32inch 16:9 curved @2560 x 1440p 165Hz Freesync Premium Pro/ Dell SE2422H 24inch 16:9 1920 x 1080p 75Hz Freesync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p & 1920 x 1080p
    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H150i RGB Pro XT 360mm Liquid Cooler, 3 x 120mm fans, 1x Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    800Mbs
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes
You can try with other browsers, maybe Edge, which is Chromium based, just to see what the difference is stability wise. It is possible there might be an issue/ conflict with your sound drivers, you mention Spotify and Chrome together trigger a crash, is this when playing music or just with both apps and some tabs open?
Try a different player app, Windows media player for example, just to test.
Although you can run Win11 with 4Gb RAM you are pushing the boundaries I would think.
To free up memory you can try disabling as much that starts with Windows as possible, maybe turn off the Sysmain service temporarily (doesn't use a lot of RAM, but every little helps when testing), maybe try increasing virtual memory.
Unless you are overclocking the laptop, which I am not even sure is possible, I have to query the use of XTU, unless it is used as a hook for some HP or 3rd party monitoring software.
Don't make too many changes at once, reboot between changes and as always suggested on these forums, make a system image (and rescue disk, and TEST it) before tinkering just in case, Macrium Reflect Free is often recommended by users on these forums and there are some excellent tutorials on using it.

I've tried disabling some services that someone recommended, but it didn't do much. I also tried some display settings for performance, didn't help. I've seen other people run W11 with like 1.6 / 4. So I was hoping there was a simple "your windows 11 is corrupted, reinstall" kinda solution. But after reading the answers here, I realize I have to buy some more ram.

Thanks for the help!!
 

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP 85F1 (U3E1)
    Memory
    4.00GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel UHD Graphics (HP)
The image displayed that the computer is using 1 of 2 DIMM.

Run the Crucial scanner and view RAM options:
Scan didn't work. 1 out of 2 DIMMs means that there is one open slot for a new ram-brick right?
 

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP 85F1 (U3E1)
    Memory
    4.00GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel UHD Graphics (HP)
My Win 10 and my Win 11 use between 3 and 5GB of RAM, normally.

With Firefox open with 4 tabs, and not restarting for a few days, my RAM usage was sitting at 4.8GB
After restart, with same things open... I'm sitting at 3.0GB.

In other words... 4GB isn't really enough RAM anymore, unless you plan on restarting a lot.

I don't have a lot of things running in the background either.
I don't use Widgets or News and Interests, just about all the Windows apps are gone.

I have AIDA64 and Bitdefender running, and my Firefox with the usual 4 tabs... that's about it.
I found people comparing w10 with w11 at like 1.6 GB usage, no clue how they did that.

I checked my gaming-computer and it uses about 4GB ram on a fresh boot, so i guess you're correct. I will be looking for a ram upgrade. Thanks!
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP 85F1 (U3E1)
    Memory
    4.00GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel UHD Graphics (HP)
Jumping on the bandwagon here:

4GB is just too little.

My desktop, browsing this thread and another 4 tabs in Edge plus a Discord session is chewing about 5GB - that's DDR4 at 3600GHz. (A number of additional processes in the background of course).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING
    Memory
    2 x 16GB Kingston KHX3200c 1604/16GX
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT
    Sound Card
    /
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Dell U2720Q
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3869x2160
    Hard Drives
    NVME Samsung 960 EVO Pro
    Case
    Fractal Design 7 Compact
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Roccat Horde Aimo
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total
Jumping on the bandwagon here:

4GB is just too little.

My desktop, browsing this thread and another 4 tabs in Edge plus a Discord session is chewing about 5GB - that's DDR4 at 3600GHz. (A number of additional processes in the background of course).
Yeah, I'm looking for a upgrade. The store where I bought it wont upgrade it for me, so it's on my own risk. Why do they even sell laptops with 4GB ram, amazes me...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.59 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP 85F1 (U3E1)
    Memory
    4.00GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel UHD Graphics (HP)
A ram upgrade falls in "fair use" category for most vendors/manufacturers. Make sure they won't void your warranty or cause you other issues down the road.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 2600X Six-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF B450M-PRO GAMING
    Memory
    2 x 16GB Kingston KHX3200c 1604/16GX
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT
    Sound Card
    /
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Dell U2720Q
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3869x2160
    Hard Drives
    NVME Samsung 960 EVO Pro
    Case
    Fractal Design 7 Compact
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Roccat Horde Aimo
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
Another thing for a RAM upgrade, if you can open up the laptop, assuming HP are not going to void your warranty for something nearly every other manufacturer allows, you could always check the specifications of the actual RAM module fitted to match your upgrade choice.
Possibly a better idea would be to find out the spec of RAM the laptop can use according to HP and buy a dual matched 8 or 16Gb kit.

As for other people managing to run Win11 with less RAM, there are a number of services and features you can disable to reduce in use memory, but doing so can seriously cripple Windows functionality or even break Windows if you don't know what you are doing.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
    Memory
    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Tuff RTX 3080 10GB OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte G32QC 32inch 16:9 curved @2560 x 1440p 165Hz Freesync Premium Pro/ Dell SE2422H 24inch 16:9 1920 x 1080p 75Hz Freesync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p & 1920 x 1080p
    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H150i RGB Pro XT 360mm Liquid Cooler, 3 x 120mm fans, 1x Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    800Mbs
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes
The problem is that it crashes all the flipping time.....
The answer to your question in the title is: No, that is not normal.

As others have said, 4GB is the minimum requirement for W11 and more would be better. But it should not crash just because you only have 4GB, it may be slower (with lots of swapfile activity) but should not fall over. As a test I've previously had W11 running on a machine with just 2GB RAM without any issues.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Yeah, I'm looking for a upgrade. The store where I bought it wont upgrade it for me, so it's on my own risk. Why do they even sell laptops with 4GB ram, amazes me...

Independently from how much RAM you have, you have many background apps you can uninstall from your PC and run through the browser; disable all startup apps too. You don't need apps in the background if you don't use them :). Close Steam too if you are low on RAM and you aren't using it, toghether with probably most of your OEM apps. Also, the most important service to disable is Sysmain since it fills up your RAM for no reason
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell g5 5590
    CPU
    intel 9th gen
    Memory
    8GB LOL
    Graphics Card(s)
    nvidia
    Hard Drives
    C: nVME kioxia SSD
    D: SATA toshiba HDD
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender (if it hasn't been disabled yet)
Although models vary, HP is one manufacturer I find it's easy to upgrade the RAM. I have a 14" HP Pavilion - the RAM is replaceable and I believe it is on most HP models. Whereas some laptops now the ram is soldered and not upgradeable. You just need to buy an 8gb ram stick. (The right one). The tricky bit is getting the back off. With mine it's fairly easy - the screws are all visible and posidrives - except two under the feet - so the rubber fee need removing and sticking back on again. Then the tricky bit is easing the thin back off without bending it.

I don't think a pc repair place would charge too much to do the ram replacement if you bought the ram and took it along (ie they're more used to taking the backs off).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
If you enter your serial number on this page it'll lead to the software downloads page for that model. Included on that, as well as all the drivers, there will be a link to download the manual - which should show you if there are one or two ram slots.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
This isn't your exact model but most of the DW models only have one ram slot - so it would be a case of swapping the 4gb for an 8gb. Although if the manual says otherwise, fine. Mine has two ram slots. From what I've read it depends on the processor as to whether it has one or two ram slots. The manual should tell you.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd

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