Solved Post Clean install issues: OneDrive etc.

Winuser said:

Now there's an Idea I never thought of.

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Sandisk has 1TB SD cards.

Ghot said:

If people just said NO to the cloud, they'd already have phones with powered USB-C connectors, and a little doohickey to connect your phone to an SSD.

And they'd probably be making SSDs that only needed USB-C

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I would think that the power drain would be a little too much on the battery.

Winuser said:

I would think that the power drain would be a little too much on the battery.

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Probably not. SSDs don't use that much power.

Heck... they could make USB-C stick, SSDs right now.
Get a 2TB one and just plug it into your phone.

Cloud storage is a scam, pretty much.

Ghot said:

Sandisk has 1TB SD cards.

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On my old cellphone I could increase the onboard storage by inserting a larger memory card. I forget the max of storage it would recognize and use. My new phone doesn't have a card slot.

Ghot said:

Cloud storage is a scam, pretty much.

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I don't know about it being a scam. I will admit that not everyone needs it.

Winuser said:

On my old cellphone I could increase the onboard storage by inserting a larger memory card. I forget the max of storage it would recognize and use. My new phone doesn't have a card slot.

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It probably does inside. And if it doesn't, that's another reason to not use cloud storage.
To force manufacturers to "make" phone with massive amounts of storage or an easy way to hook some up.


They can already make this stuff. But as long as cloud storage is around... there's no reason for them to do it.

Getting back to the OP, @Alexey2912 wants to be sure his data is backed up before he does anything.

Ghot said:

t probably does inside.

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The Galaxy S22+ only has a slot for the Sim cards.

Here's the problems with cloud storage.

Number 1 rule of computer security is don't allow people to access your computer.
Along comes cloud storage, and people put their important data on other people's computers. Really dumb.
No matter what they promise, they can get to your data, encrypted or not.

Hell, hackers can do it over the internet... you don't think they can do it... in house?

There's a huge monetary reason for large companies to offer cloud storage.
They have access to billions of people's data, which they can sell, for free. Well for the cost of the server.

Just take one instance. Photographers sell their pics to magazines, websites, companies of all types.
With cloud storage, the companies that own those servers can sell any of your pics they want, and they don't have to pay for them as they would with a photographer.
Granted not all your pics will be of the required quality. BUT... they have access to billions of people's pics.

And that's just one job skill.

How many scientists and engineers store their stuff in the cloud. Actually... probably none. LOL
I wonder why?

There's only one real reason to spend the money to build servers, to act as other folks storage. It's to be able to access, the stuff that's being stored.


Sure you can tell OneDrive what to sync or not sync... but it doesn't ASK.
It just starts syncing everything and the onus in on YOU to tell it what not to sync.
It should be the other way around.


Cloud storage is the equivalent of saying: "here, hold my beer", and not expecting that person to take a few sips, on a scalding hot summer day.

Winuser said:

Cloud storage is a scam, pretty much.

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Cloud service providers provide a service at a price that may or may not be acceptable to you. Nobody forces you to use it.

A scam is when service providers promise you a deal they do not provide or exorbitantly overcharge.

None of the main providers scam anybody.

I use Onedrive as part of my MS Office 365 deal and I believe it is reasonable value.

Winuser said:

Much easier to lose or have the drive stolen than it would be for my OneDrive. I also like that I have my cellphone setup to save my photos on the phone and backed up to OneDrive. It's just a case of personal choice.

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Agree, my Samsung phone uploads new pictures to OneDrive for easy access on my PC. I have a family 365 account so we all share things using OneDrive.

Ghot said:

Just take one instance. Photographers sell their pics to magazines, websites, companies of all types.
With cloud storage, the companies that own those servers can sell any of your pics they want, and they don't have to pay for them as they would with a photographer.
Granted not all your pics will be of the required quality. BUT... they have access to billions of people's pics.

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I seriously doubt that. The don't own the copyright to use your photos. If the photos include people, they will also need permission from everyone in the photo.

Winuser said:

I seriously doubt that. The don't own the copyright to use your photos. If the photos include people, they will also need permission from everyone in the photo.

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Well true, unless they're selling them to someplace like... Tanzania Architectural Digest.
Or... Botswana Better Homes & Gardens.

I mean I seriously doubt that North Korea News Digest cares about our copyright laws.



For the Love of Money

Ghot said:

I mean I seriously doubt that North Korea News Digest cares about our copyright laws.

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And I'm sure that they don't care about our personal photos. When it comes to cloud storage, It's a personal choice. I've never had a problem with OneDrive that wasn't my fault.

I use OneDrive pretty extensively. It's an integral part of my workflow as well. I have multiple computers at home, and having the ability to get to some of my data on all of them is important to me. I can also get to them from work and from my cell phones/tablet/mobile devices.

I'm careful with what I put into OneDrive. My tax returns are not there, my bank account stuff is not there, etc. It's things like backups of my cell phone pictures, documentation that i have written for playing in labs and installing drivers, OS, etc. I keep copies of my drivers and such for my machines there. Basically nothing that would be catastrophic if it were to ever get compromised.

One drive is great for accessing from anywhere, and it makes a nice set it and forget it approach to backups for that data. I would have to lose my home machine and the cloud would have to lose my data at the same time before I had a problem. This is quite an unlikely thing to happen.

For those that don't think big corporations use the cloud, you are kidding yourself. Tons use Amazon Web Services, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud Platform, etc.

I don't store anything personal on OneDrive. My banking info or my Social Security number as an example. The scary thing is that there is more personal data about us already on the internet and there's nothing we can do about it.

@Alexey2912, did you manage to get your clean install setup the way you wanted?

Winuser said:

And I'm sure that they don't care about our personal photos. When it comes to cloud storage, It's a personal choice. I've never had a problem with OneDrive that wasn't my fault.

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Hey, as far as I'm concerned... to each his own.
I'm just saying you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming, before I'd use it.
But that's me.

Ghot said:

Hey, as far as I'm concerned... to each his own.
I'm just saying you'd have to drag me licking and screaming, before I'd use it.
But that's me.

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Yeah we get your view. PS licking?

cereberus said:

Yeah we get your view. PS licking?

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LOL fixed.