StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download



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02 - Start Menu.png
04 - Taskbar.png
05 - Explorer.png
06 - Advanced.png
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Sonofab*tch...
Taskbar won't hide when I put PowerPoint into Presentation Mode, with 5178!!! :nope:
Had to go back to 5173.
 

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Nope, nothing has changed about fullscreen detection since Win10. It may randomly misbehave or stop working.
 

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Nope, nothing has changed about fullscreen detection since Win10. It may randomly misbehave or stop working.
K, I'll keep an eye on it.
 

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What few updates ago? I was just yesterday. How to reproduce thumbnails behind something and is it specific to test build?
if i have multiple windows opened, such as web browser and file explorer and web browser is forefront and i hover over file explorer, i can see the peek preview popup but it is behind the forefront window (in this case web browser). its been like that for the windows 7 taskbar since 3.8.10, the last stable build (right?)

it does work correctly and display frontmost upon boot/logon but at some point.. no idea what causes it, it begins to go behind windows. a reboot/logoff fixes it.
does this consistently after waking from hibernation too, if that helps any
 

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StartAllBack 3.8.10.5180

Another Update
 

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What few updates ago? I was just yesterday. How to reproduce thumbnails behind something and is it specific to test build?

seems to be working properly after 3.8.10.5180 now
 

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I got 5181...

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StartAllBack 3.8.10.5181 07 October 2024 (beta)

I wish Tihiy would let us know what's been Updated?
 

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Custom Build
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Intel Core i9 12900KF
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ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
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Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
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ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
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Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
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1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
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PSU
Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
Case
Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
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Logitech MK545
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Logitech MX Master 3
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Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
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Kaspersky
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Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
There is already this File explorer suffix is removed for :

5180 : the French UI
5181 : the German UI
 

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    Intel 10980XE
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    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
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    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
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    Asus Pro
There is already this File explorer suffix is removed for :

5180 : the French UI
5181 : the German UI
Do you mean that in French the description on the taskbar:
002507.jpg
has/can been changed in this (edited in a photo-editing program)?
002507.jpg
That would be very nice, as it is useless extra information.

In that case I am looking out for the change in Dutch!
 

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Build by vendor to my specs
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AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
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MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
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Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
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MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
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Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
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Samsung S24E450F 24"
Screen Resolution
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1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
PSU
Corsair CV650W
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Cooler Master Silencio S400
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Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
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70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
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F-Secure (Internetprovider version)
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Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Yes, there is no more the suffix "File explorer" in the taskbar, title bar
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I had removed it a while ago by modifying the dll, but now SAB does it
 

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    Intel 10980XE
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    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
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    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
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    Lian Li A77F
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    Logitech MX keys
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...there is no more the suffix "File explorer" in the taskbar, title bar...
Are you using the Windows 10 version of the title bar or does that happen as well in the Windows 11 version?
I am using the Windows 11 version, but would be very pleased if the suffix would disappear there too.
 

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Build by vendor to my specs
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AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
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MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
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Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
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MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
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Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
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Samsung S24E450F 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
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1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
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PSU
Corsair CV650W
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Cooler Master Silencio S400
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Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
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Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
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Asus WT465 (wireless)
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70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
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Firefox 130.0
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F-Secure (Internetprovider version)
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Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Are you using the Windows 10 version of the title bar or does that happen as well in the Windows 11 version?
I am using the Windows 11 version, but would be very pleased if the suffix would disappear there too.
Windows 10, but last time I tested it wasn't present by default with the one of Windows 11 (maybe changed since)

You can remove it yourself by editing the explorerframe.dll.mui file otherwise
 

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You can remove it yourself by editing the explorerframe.dll.mui file otherwise
Thanks for the information!
I suppose that has to be done after every (major) Windows update...
 

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Windows 11 Pro 25H2
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Manufacturer/Model
Build by vendor to my specs
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AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
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MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
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Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
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MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
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Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
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Samsung S24E450F 24"
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1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
PSU
Corsair CV650W
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Cooler Master Silencio S400
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Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
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Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
Mouse
Asus WT465 (wireless)
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70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
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Firefox 130.0
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F-Secure (Internetprovider version)
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Router: FRITZBox 7490
Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Thanks for the information!
I suppose that has to be done after every (major) Windows update...
Yes, every time this file is updated
 

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    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane P5801X
    Samsung 9100 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
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    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
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    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro

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OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Build by vendor to my specs
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard
MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
Memory
Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24E450F 24"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
PSU
Corsair CV650W
Case
Cooler Master Silencio S400
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
Keyboard
Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
Mouse
Asus WT465 (wireless)
Internet Speed
70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
Browser
Firefox 130.0
Antivirus
F-Secure (Internetprovider version)
Other Info
Router: FRITZBox 7490
Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
That's not how I would like to use Windows, so I'll leave it like it is. ;-)
Yes modified the file every time it is updated, it must be annoying ;)
Maybe the dev will make the same modification for the Windows 11 option if it is still present and not with the Windows 10 one
 

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    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
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    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
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    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
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    Dell 27"
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    Intel Optane P5801X
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    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
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    Lian Li A77F
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    Logitech MX keys
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    Edge Canary
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    Kaspersky
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    Windows 11 Pro 24h2
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    Asus Pro
I can't get StartAllBack to work on 24H2. . Do I need the current version? I'm running 3.7.11
 

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    Built Myself in 2025
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    AMD Ryzen 9 3600X 12-Core @ 3.80GHz
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    MSI X570 Gaming Plus
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    Corsair 32GB DDR4
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    2 X AOC 27" , Dell 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
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    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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    ~ 6TB Toshiba HDD
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    ~ SanDisk 250GB SSD
    ~ 2 X 1TB HDD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
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    AMD Wraith Prism
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    Nulea RT05 Wireless Ergonomic
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    Nulea MD280 Wireless Vertical Mouse
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    761Mbps (Download) / 692Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
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    *This is my Main Computer That I use*
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    Windows 11 Pro x64 24H2 v26100.2894
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 1800X @ 3.60Ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus Crosshair VI Hero
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD RX580
    Sound Card
    onBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27UK650-W 27", eMachine 22"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB SSD
    PSU
    CORSAIR RM850
    Case
    GAMDIAS Black ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer PC Case w/Tempered Glass
    Cooling
    Liquid
    Keyboard
    Nulea RT05 Wireless Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Nulea MD280 Wireless Vertical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    752Mbps (Download) / 537Mbps (Upload)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    I use this computer for photo/video editing and to track severe weather

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
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