Windows 11 24H2 has un-bypassable hardware requirements...

Stigg · Feb 24, 2024

1Al said:
Mine is 2009 Q3 August and does not meet the requirements

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Sadly, that CPU doesn't appear to meet the hardware requirements.

spapakons · Feb 24, 2024

We stick with Windows 11 23H2. Until EOL there should be a workaround to upgrade to 24H2 or higher. Think positively.

Hazel123 · Feb 24, 2024

cereberus said:
Er many of the (mostly 32GB emmc drives) Atom cpus were 64 bit but were hardware hamstrung running 32 bit Windows 10.

These sort of devices cannot upgrade to Windows 11 as there is no 32bit version.

It's already running Windows 11

Just for fun obviously as it's quite slow. It did fine on 21H2 with a vista graphics driver, but it's not running 23H2 well anyway - right click stopped working unless I uninstalled the graphics driver and used the microsoft basic one, and I don't think it does have popcnt. It's on the old hardware thread. It ran Windows 11 better than 10 though and is useable. The hard drive was swapped for an ssd when it was on Windows 10 and runs on 2gb ram. 1015px from 2012

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BrianInEngland · Feb 24, 2024

Ghot said:
Windows 11 24H2 to enforce hardware requirement - gHacks Tech News

Windows 11 version 24H2 may enforce a new hardware requirement that will block older processors from running the operating system.

www.ghacks.net

CPU "must" have one or the other of these instruction sets (RED box).
This requirement can NOT be bypassed...

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No problems here

antspants · Feb 24, 2024

spapakons said:
We stick with Windows 11 23H2. Until EOL there should be a workaround to upgrade to 24H2 or higher. Think positively.

I agree. It’s driven by code, code can fix it.

If that fails, I shall buy Microsoft and let you all paint “Microsoft Sucks” on all the interior walls.

Ghot · Feb 24, 2024

antspants said:
If that fails, I shall buy Microsoft and let you all paint “Microsoft Sucks” on all the interior walls.

Well, if you're gonna buy Microsoft... buy and.... fix it.

antspants · Feb 24, 2024

Ghot said:
Well, if you're gonna buy Microsoft... buy and.... fix it.

Where’s the fun in that lol

Bree · Feb 24, 2024

Hazel123 said:
So would a 2015 atom eee pc have popcnt?

Hazel123 said:
Atom N570

Sorry, but the answer is 'no'. The PopCnt instruction came in for Intel CPUs with SSE4.2.

Intel said:
Instruction Set Extensions: Intel® SSE2, Intel® SSE3, Intel® SSSE3

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RD Mercer · Feb 24, 2024

Fine Print-“Windows 11 version 24H2 is still in development. There is a chance that Microsoft will make changes to the system before its official release that removes the requirement”.

Hazel123 · Feb 24, 2024

I think Core i5 m520 has popcnt though (HP Pavilion DM4) 2010-2012 approx

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5%20Mobile%20I5-520M%20CP80617004119AE%20(BX80617I5520M).html

spapakons · Feb 24, 2024

Hazel123 said:
I think Core i5 m520 has popcnt though (HP Pavilion DM4)

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5%20Mobile%20I5-520M%20CP80617004119AE%20(BX80617I5520M).html

According to Intel it supports SSE4.2

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You can verify it with Aida64 or similar application. Go to CPUID section to see a list with all the instructions, PopCnt should be checked (supported).

Bree · Feb 24, 2024

Hazel123 said:
I think Core i5 m520 has popcnt though (HP Pavilion DM4) 2010-2012 approx

Yes, that's the same cpu as my System Two test machine, and I've already tested it for 24H2 compatibility. In fact, I have already tested a clean install of 24H2 on it.

The i5-520M has SSE4.2 so it will also have PopCnt.

RD Mercer · Feb 24, 2024

Hazel123 · Feb 24, 2024

cereberus said:
Still using cassettes, 8 track cartridges, cathode ray TV, CB radio, carburettor car, fax, landlines etc?

Still using landlines! And coal fire (although buying coal is now illegal but smokeless and wood is allowed) and ancient cooker and very occasionally, a nokia bar phone. And mostly second hand furniture! And a 25 year old truck (not main car though) but it's very reliable. And pen and paper. And binoculars. Some people are still using analogue cameras as well.

Hazel123 · Feb 24, 2024

Also have a portable radio with shortband (it's still made I think).

RD Mercer · Feb 24, 2024

Hazel123 said:
Also have a portable radio with shortband (it's still made I think).

I still use my AM Crystal radio kit by Radio Shack, I wondering if I can find an adapter for DDR4?

RD Mercer · Feb 24, 2024

Hazel123 said:
And a 25 year old truck (not main car though) but it's very reliable.

I can relate, I still use my 98 GMC 5.7 Liter for my service work, it's still in great condition, still runs like a top, although I just had to replace an 02 sensor.

Ghot · Feb 25, 2024

Courtesy of @Wolfzz

Microsoft adds SSE4.2 to the list of compatibility blocks in Windows 11

The latest Windows 11 preview build added a new entry to the list of compatibility blocks. It now includes the SSE4.2 instruction set, preventing very old CPUs from running Windows 11 version 24H2.

www.neowin.net

Ghot · Feb 25, 2024

Hazel123 said:
Still using landlines! And coal fire (although buying coal is now illegal but smokeless and wood is allowed) and ancient cooker and very occasionally, a nokia bar phone. And mostly second hand furniture! And a 25 year old truck (not main car though) but it's very reliable. And pen and paper. And binoculars. Some people are still using analogue cameras as well.

Hazel123 said:
Also have a portable radio with shortband (it's still made I think).

RD Mercer said:
I still use my AM Crystal radio kit by Radio Shack, I wondering if I can find an adapter for DDR4?

RD Mercer said:
I can relate, I still use my 98 GMC 5.7 Liter for my service work, it's still in great condition, still runs like a top, although I just had to replace an 02 sensor.

Back in the days when ships were wood, and men were iron... they made things well.
There wasn't any of this... 'you need new hardware' craziness.

Ah, how the mighty have fallen.

Bree · Feb 28, 2024

Try3 said:
Is the setupprep.exe idea any good?

Bree said:
Yes, that workaround does work for a clean install.
I've just tested it on my System Two with its Legacy/MBR and TPM1.2 (after swapping in a spare SSD, of course )

I've just revisited the 24H2 that got installed using setupprep and checked it over in more detail.

Yes it did install, but the 'product server' option seems to have made the installer leave a few things out. For example, if you look at the last screenshot in post #39 you'll see that the Widgets are missing. The GUI for Windows Security was also missing (just the GUI, the AV protection itself was running).

That was build 26052 I used for the install, enrolling for the Dev channel with the offline insider enrol script brought down the 26058 feature update that fixed all of the above. If using this workaround for RTM when it gets released an in-place upgrade after a setupprep install may be needed to complete the job.

Edit: I had originally intended to wipe the spare SSD I'd used after testing. But I think now I'll keep it and check back on 24H2's progress once in a while.