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Thanks a lot, that's what I meant. Could you please send me the SecurityHealthSetup.exe file from the SecurityHealth folder? Then I would have a full set. I hope that this is not a problem.
 

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I would need this SecurityHealthSetup.exe file, and if it doesn't work, I would need the 1.0.2207.20002-0 folder. And the best thing to do would be to pack the entire SecurityHealth folder for me and send it to me just like that one. I will be very grateful. I will certainly repay you as soon as possible. :)
 

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Thank you for your help. The problem has been fixed. I already got the folder 1.0.2207.20002-0 and there was the actual APPX file in it. The version in the folder 1.0.2209.22001-0 was incompatible with my version of the system. Only if you can, please send me the SecurityHealthSetup.exe file, which will be useful for me to update Seciruty Health to the latest version. Hope it won't be a big problem. You don't have to send me everything, just this one file. Regards
 

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Thank you for your help. The problem has been fixed. I already got the folder 1.0.2207.20002-0 and there was the actual APPX file in it. The version in the folder 1.0.2209.22001-0 was incompatible with my version of the system. Only if you can, please send me the SecurityHealthSetup.exe file, which will be useful for me to update Seciruty Health to the latest version. Hope it won't be a big problem. You don't have to send me everything, just this one file. Regards
Uploaded, try the link below.

 

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Thank you for your help. The problem has been fixed. I already got the folder 1.0.2207.20002-0 and there was the actual APPX file in it. The version in the folder 1.0.2209.22001-0 was incompatible with my version of the system. Only if you can, please send me the SecurityHealthSetup.exe file, which will be useful for me to update Seciruty Health to the latest version. Hope it won't be a big problem. You don't have to send me everything, just this one file. Regards
Let me know when you are done downloading, I don't like to leave files hanging on my google drive.
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OK, thank you very much, I already have one. You can delete files from the server. I managed to do all of this at all, but the only thing that worries me is that Intelligent App Control is turned off. He writes that in order to enable control in evaluation mode, it is necessary to reinstall the system. Can quality be bypassed without reinstallation and enable this control in Evaluation mode? I care about it, but I don't know how to go about it. Thank you very much once again and best regards.
 

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OK, thank you very much, I already have one. You can delete files from the server. I managed to do all of this at all, but the only thing that worries me is that Intelligent App Control is turned off. He writes that in order to enable control in evaluation mode, it is necessary to reinstall the system. Can quality be bypassed without reinstallation and enable this control in Evaluation mode? I care about it, but I don't know how to go about it. Thank you very much once again and best regards.
At this point you lost me, I have no idea of what you are referring to with "enable control in evaluation mode"? Who writes?
Can you show a screenshot of where you are getting these messages?
Did you manage to copy the 1.0.2209.22001-0 folder and the SecurityHealthSetup.exe to C:\Windows\System32\SecurityHealth before trying the reinstall?
 

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At this point you lost me, I have no idea of what you are referring to....
It's Smart App Control....

... the only thing that worries me is that Intelligent App Control is turned off. He writes that in order to enable control in evaluation mode, it is necessary to reinstall the system. Can quality be bypassed without reinstallation and enable this control in Evaluation mode?
No, if Smart App Control is off then the only way to turn it back on and go into evaluation mode is a clean install.

In order to ensure a more secure experience Microsoft only enables Smart App Control on a clean install of Microsoft Windows 11. Microsoft wants to be sure that there aren't already untrusted apps running on the device when they turn Smart App Control on. That's why in order to turn Smart App Control back on after it's been turned off, you'll need to reset or reinstall Windows.
 

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I use Polish Windows because I am of Polish nationality. I don't know if you can understand Polish as in the picture, but I am pasting the image. The point is, intelligent app control is turned off and there is no way to turn it on. And my question is, can there be some way around it? I haven't copied the file to system32 \ SecurityHealth yet, but if I do, I'll share this information for sure. For now, thank you very much for your help.sh.jpg
 

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I use Polish Windows because I am of Polish nationality. I don't know if you can understand Polish as in the picture, but I am pasting the image. The point is, intelligent app control is turned off....
In English builds the name MS use for this is 'Smart App Control'.
 

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Thank you very much for all your help. Thanks to you, I was able to repair the system without reinstalling it. Thank you fg2001gf11F in particular for sending me the files I asked for. You can safely remove them from the disk. Unfortunately, SecurityHealthSetup.exe is not working. After starting it, nothing happens. Therefore, I will be patiently waiting for the latest version of Security Health in Windows Update. For now, I have to be content with the version I have. Regards
 

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In English builds the name MS use for this is 'Smart App Control'.
Not even showing on this one, this is the latest 22621.674 Public Build.

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Not even showing on this one, this is the latest 22621.674 Public Build.
There's no apparent logic to this. It shows on one of mine, an unsupported device. But neither of my supported devices show it. All are on the same 22621.674 public build.

Toshiba L750 (unsupported):
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My 'System One' (supported):
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Dell Latitude 5410 (supported):
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There's no apparent logic to this. It shows on one of mine, an unsupported device. But neither of my supported devices show it. All are on the same 22621.674 public build.


Thanks Bree,
I see it on Dev Build 25217, but it is turned off.
It wants a clean install to turn it on?
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Thanks Bree,
I see it on Dev Build 25217, but it is turned off.
Yes, it's settings are greyed out liked that on my RTM build Toshiba L750 too.

It wants a clean install to turn it on?
Yes. According to Brink's tutorial...
In order to ensure a more secure experience Microsoft only enables Smart App Control on a clean install of Microsoft Windows 11. Microsoft wants to be sure that there aren't already untrusted apps running on the device when they turn Smart App Control on. That's why in order to turn Smart App Control back on after it's been turned off, you'll need to reset or reinstall Windows.
 

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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

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There's no apparent logic to this. It shows on one of mine, an unsupported device. But neither of my supported devices show it. All are on the same 22621.674 public build.

Toshiba L750 (unsupported):
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Dell Latitude 5410 (supported):
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I've made a discovery tonight, see my post here Did Microsoft mess up my Security? Strange story!

Check which versions of SecurityHealthUI are running on the machines - open the Security app, check Task Manager/Properties for the running process and it'll show the version. The 'wrong' one has no SAC (pic 1), the 'right' one does (pic 2). Both are identical RP builds. The 'right' one was done this evening as a clean install in VBox and after checking for updates the version stayed the same and no 1.2209.22001 folder has appeared.

I may be on to something here 🤔
 

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but you can access via search by typing Smart App Control. The options are then displayed but cannot be set. The latest stable version is 1.2207 and it was sent to me by a friend whom I sent after accidentally uploading 1.2109. Everything works for me now, but I don't want to mess with unknown versions.
 
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I've made a discovery tonight, see my post here Did Microsoft mess up my Security? Strange story!

Check which versions of SecurityHealthUI are running on the machines - open the Security app, check Task Manager/Properties for the running process and it'll show the version.
Interesting. For the three examples I gave in post #93 only the first one that does show Smart App Control was version 1000.22621.1.0.

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Both the others (no Smart App Control showing) were version 1000.25183.0.1000, which BTW is also shown in About for Windows Security.

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you can access via search by typing Smart App Control. The options are then displayed but cannot be set....
Thank you, both my machines that have version 1000.25183.0.1000 show the Smart App Control when I search for it. None of the options, On, Evaluation, or Off, are selected, but all can be clicked on and will trigger the UAC prompt. But as you say, even if you click 'Yes' nothing changes.

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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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There's no apparent logic to this. It shows on one of mine, an unsupported device. But neither of my supported devices show it. All are on the same 22621.674 public build.
@Bree,
Hi again,
Here it is after a clean install of 22621.525 with the MS official ISO.

Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎10/‎17/‎2022
OS build 22621.525
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22634.1000.0

Same after updating to 22621.674.

Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22621.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe


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Mi Windows Upate does not detect version 1.2209. The official version I have is 1.2207. I got this version after updating Windows to 22H2, but due to problems with the leftover after the old update I was forced to install version 1.2109. And that was my mistake, because it was enough to delete the folder in system32 \ SecurityHealth. But it turns out that version 1.2207 is the last stable version of the application. I discovered it thanks to you and I am grateful for your help
 

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