Can’t change user’s password in Computer Management—Why?


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I am logged into a PC running Windows 11 Pro with a user ID that has admin privileges. I am connected to it via RDP. I launch Computer Management. In Computer Management (local) → System Tools → Local Users and Groups → Users. I right-click on a user listed and select Set Password…. I see this

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I click on Proceed and enter the new password twice and click on OK. I then get this:

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What exactly does this mean? How do I work around this? This computer is not actually joined to any domain.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    M1 Max Apple Silicon
    Memory
    32 GB
I have since learned of the netplwiz utility. However, that gives me this:

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It is beginning to dawn on me that the reason for this may be that the user is logged into her Microsoft account and that therefore Microsoft has taken over the management of the password and other aspects of the user ID. Wow!

Now trying the command net user on the command line:

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No cigar!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    M1 Max Apple Silicon
    Memory
    32 GB
"The system is not authoritative ...." ? Weird/strange phraseology ?

That aside, I'd be looking into the RDP connection as a clue/the cause ..... perhaps ?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-9400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1TB SSDs
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Classic Australian w.a.p.
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
That aside, I'd be looking into the RDP connection as a clue/the cause ..... perhaps ?
Good point, although, should that be the underlying cause, the error alert is hardly hinting at that.

Unfortunately, this is at a client’s business's and I am not on site all the time. I’ll see, whether I can pay them a visit tomorrow.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    M1 Max Apple Silicon
    Memory
    32 GB
the error alert is hardly hinting at that.
Oh yeh, Microsoft excel at that. My terminology is "error message of last resort", when the system can't quite identify the problem so dives into the error message database grab-bag and pops up what it thinks is the next best thing.

EDIT : I just noticed your OS : macOS Sonoma, could be a factor also. Microsoft and Apple frequently don't play well together and have often been known not to be on speaking terms for some processes.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-9400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1TB SSDs
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Classic Australian w.a.p.
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
EDIT : I just noticed your OS : macOS Sonoma, could be a factor also. Microsoft and Apple frequently don't play well together and have often been known not to be on speaking terms for some processes.
My RDP client is Microsoft Remote Desktop for macOS. Shouldn’t make a difference, should it?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    M1 Max Apple Silicon
    Memory
    32 GB
Shouldn’t make a difference, should it?
Couldn't say for sure, don't use it. But from what I know and seen, these above could be a couple of possibilities

Interesting the absence of responses from what is usually an extremely helpful and knowledgeable group of users in this forum.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-9400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1TB SSDs
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Classic Australian w.a.p.
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
So, I found that even when sitting in front of the PC, I cannot change the password with the Computer Management utility. I do remember now that I can remote into that user’s session using her Microsoft 365 password. The conclusion is that basically Microsoft has taken over the management of that user. She also cannot change her password by doing a CTRL-ALT-DELETE.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    M1 Max Apple Silicon
    Memory
    32 GB
The conclusion is that basically Microsoft has taken over the management of that user.
Doubt it. Something else at play here .....
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-9400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1TB SSDs
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    Classic Australian w.a.p.
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (latest upadte ... anally always)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
If it is an online, not local Microsoft User password, it will not let you change it the way you are trying. Those tools are for local accounts only. She would have to go to Change your Microsoft account password - Microsoft Support
Or you could login as that account on the pc and change it to a local account and then those tools would work for that account.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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