Hynix Gold P31 2TB

Hazel123 said:

So the second laptop had a faulty screen too and had to go back. Different fault. Second hand four year old laptops aren't what they used to be. And - the one of mine that packed up recently was only four years old too. I used to think HP laptops were reliable. Maybe just bad luck - but I don't think a lot of 10th generation laptops were built to last 10 years like some of my older laptops.

Still waiting to use the Hynix SSD and having a rethink over what type/age of used laptop to get.

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IMO a lot of the newer PCs (not just laptops) are not built to last. That's why I started a thread for people to list those vintage PCs that were tried and tested and have passed the test of time. THE LEGENDS

That's a great thread - I'll read through properly later. No they're not built to last - all too thin.

Hazel123 said:

That's a great thread - I'll read through properly later. No they're not built to last - all too thin.

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I build my own PCs but my eyes are not so good and building laptops can be tricky as everything is so small and cramped. For this reason I purchased my latest laptop brand new from Dell and I can honestly say I'm not that impressed. I got it because it was one of the few laptops that would still run a CD/DVD ROM drive but I never considered what I might have to go through to replace the battery in this device. I dread the day when that time comes. Anyway, to answer your question in your earlier post, YES. Ryzen does have generations like Intel. One of the better things about Ryzen is that it is more flexible with a number of system boards in that generally a number of generations can be used on the same board so the user does not always have to purchase a new system board to match the newer generation CPU. Admittedly, this is more germane to PCs than to AMD laptops but at least AMD offers this sort of flexibility. I've heard Intel has attempted to do this too but only recently.

nice review

SIW2 said:

nice review

HP Pavilion Aero 13 review

The HP Pavilion Aero 13 is so light and fast I can’t imagine traveling with anything else

www.tomsguide.com

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That really does look like a fine lap top.
Now about that NVMe...

It's here £138.99.

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The p31 2tb has gone up another 20 quid since then.

Scannerman said:

I've heard Intel has attempted to do this too but only recently.

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Yes, my ASUS Z690 can take 12th, 13th and 14th gen.

Scannerman said:

I've heard Intel has attempted to do this too but only recently.

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Intel 100 Series Mobile Chipsets date back more than 8 years ago (Q3 2015 to be precise), yet these could support both 6th gen (Skylake) and 7th gen (Kaby Lake) Intel Mobile CPUs already back then (even though this didn't also mean that users could upgrade the CPU in their laptop of course, but anyway... one could argue that it still benefitted consumers up to a certain degree due to cutting the cost of laptop motherboard design/manufacturing I guess). Reason I know this was possible much earlier than "only recently" is because my previous old laptop (purchased new in early January 2018) had a Core i5-7200U (i.e., Kaby Lake-U) CPU and a HM175 (i.e., Skylake) chipset.

@Hazel123
£680 seems steep for a laptop that was released in June of 2021.

hdmi said:

£680 seems steep for a laptop that was released in June of 2021.

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I bought a Asus G73JH back in 2010 and paid 1800 CA for it.
Look at what Amazon are asking now for a 14 year old notebook:


Unbelievable .

Hazel123 said:

Ok I've just bought a new one

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Yes, you will enjoy that one. Although a bit small, the Ryzen is still a good choice.
I bought a HP with AMD CPU for my daughter back when she was in high school
and it carried her all the way through. Let us know when you get it.

Thanks. Yes it is a bit small - I usually prefer 14" laptops - but the 16:10 screen should help overcome any crick in the neck from a smaller laptop! I don't like the 16:9 13" ones for that reason. I still don't expect it to last much more than 4 or 5 years, based on the last couple of thin laptops.

Flashorn said:

I bought a Asus G73JH back in 2010 and paid 1800 CA for it.
Look at what Amazon are asking now for a 14 year old notebook:

Amazon.ca

Unbelievable .

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Ouch.

hdmi said:

Ouch.

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That's incredible. The laptop must be brand spankin' new. Not having experience with that specific device I can't rightly say if that's price gouging or not. Still, there are some units that really do pass the test of time and are worthy of recognition. Perhaps that laptop is one of them.

Scannerman said:

That's incredible. The laptop must be brand spankin' new. Not having experience with that specific device I can't rightly say if that's price gouging or not. Still, there are some units that really do pass the test of time and are worthy of recognition. Perhaps that laptop is one of them.

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As you already know, I have one and can say that it is still in excellent condition. As I also said, this notebook
has never left my desk while it was in full use. Very heavy and battery life is about 1hr 15 minutes on a full charge
while playing games such as CoD. Movies , you can get through a 1hr.30 minute movie but, that is really stretching it.
The beauty of the case is what I think got allot of gamers to buy it plus the keyboard backlighting was a big plus at
least for me. And, (not sure) but, I think this was the first i7M to be installed in a notebook. (2010).
In case someone wants to buy this notebook from Amazon (what a waste) here are the specs and the CPU specs as well:

Scannerman said:

I can't rightly say if that's price gouging or not

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Republic Of Gougers for sure.

Flashorn said:

Yes, you will enjoy that one. Although a bit small, the Ryzen is still a good choice.
I bought a HP with AMD CPU for my daughter back when she was in high school
and it carried her all the way through. Let us know when you get it.

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Yes it's too small - it's going back Not good for my eyesight. It's also incredibly flimsy. So on the look out for another used one.

Flashorn said:

I bought a Asus G73JH back in 2010 and paid 1800 CA for it.
Look at what Amazon are asking now for a 14 year old notebook:

Amazon.ca

Unbelievable .

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I don't know if Amazon does it or not but I have soon other online retailers increase the price of an item to an outrageous price for items that are no longer available.

Winuser said:

I don't know if Amazon does it or not but I have soon other online retailers increase the price of an item to an outrageous price for items that are no longer available.

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Here is another example crucial mx300 1tb £259.44 at Amazon. The more recent crucial mx500 1 tb is currently £80 at Amazon.

Hazel123 said:

So on the look out for another used one.

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Hi Hazel!
Have we considered a open box notebook instead of a used one?
Yes, I thought as much . A 13 inch notebook is great for Uni students
and that's about it AFAIC. Are you concerned about battery life?
If not then, I would consider a 15 inch and no less.

Winuser said:

I don't know if Amazon does it or not but I have soon other online retailers increase the price of an item to an outrageous price for items that are no longer available.

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It's probably a collector's item by now.