I Just Gave Up With Norton

antspants · Nov 14, 2023

Stigg said:
I remember the days when you could buy some PC magazines and they came with a CD with all sorts of applications.

That was the best part of the Mags!

antspants · Nov 14, 2023

PC World I think was one we imported to Australia, unless we had our own version, I can’t remember. The only thing that could of been better would of been if they had a Mad Magazine type folding back page

Stigg · Nov 14, 2023

antspants said:
PC World I think was one we imported to Australia, unless we had our own version, I can’t remember. The only thing that could of been better would of been if they had a Mad Magazine type folding back page

I think I can remember one of the magazines being recalled because of a virus on the CD, back when viruses were a thing.
Speaking of viruses; I can't remember seeing a virus in decades, but that's another story for another thread.

antspants · Nov 14, 2023

Nortons was def a feature on those CD’s

Scannerman · Nov 14, 2023

Stigg said:
I remember the days when you could buy some PC magazines and they came with a CD with all sorts of applications.

I think I might still have some of those old application CDs kicking around. I'm slowly getting around to building another PC for the purpose of checking out dubious software. That way I won't be messing up my main PCs in the process. I have a feeling this will lead to quite the coaster collection as well but :::shrugs::: gotta start somewhere.

antspants · Nov 14, 2023

Scannerman said:
I have a feeling this will lead to quite the coaster collection as well but :::shrugs::: gotta start somewhere.

If I may make a sugestion?

The finished product looks nothing like the video start frame, but a bit of creative license never hurt anybody

Scannerman · Nov 14, 2023

antspants said:
If I may make a sugestion?

The finished product looks nothing like the video start frame, but a bit of creative license never hurt anybody

And how long have you been having this umm... issue?

antspants · Nov 14, 2023

Scannerman said:
And how long have you been having this umm... issue?

When I’m alone at night and nobody is awake, I dress as a ninja and bounce around my living room trying to do kicks and stuff.

Scannerman · Nov 14, 2023

I guess that's how you get your kicks?

(srry, couldn't resist)

jimbo45 · Nov 14, 2023

I remember when Norton was a reliable name -- Norton Utilities and Norton Ghost (believe it or not it still works in some cases. I got both those on the PC mag free CD -- as well as the excellent at the time XTREE. Even now it makes windows explorer look like a load of rubbish.

Xtree Gold :

Actually this brings me back to the thread again -- Current Windows defender is more than sufficient for security on domestic machines. There's 100% no need for 3rd party security apps these days -- in fact Windows itself recently seems to be doing a perfectly good job itself of stopping users from even booting up their systems.

cheers
jimbo

johnlgalt · Nov 14, 2023

jimbo45 said:
There's 100% no need for 3rd party security apps these days

I'm assuming you're making this comment as a security researcher, right?

That's akin to me saying

These days there is 100% no need for Windows to support SMB.

garioch7 · Nov 14, 2023

My first file explorer was Xtree Gold. It was great. I also had Norton Utilities back in the good old days (late 80s). Those were great apps.

My personal computer security suite is Bitdefender Total Security with Malwarebytes Premium. I have Windows Defender do periodic scans, but its real-time protection is disabled.

That combination was chosen because of my experience with malware identification and removal. I want maximum protection.

I am not criticizing Windows Defender, so please don't flame me.

It is a very capable product, but it is not Number 1 in credible AV ranking comparisons.

Security is all about layers, practicing safe "hex," and employing a robust backup strategy, the importance of which cannot be overstated!

No one or combination of security suites is 100% bulletproof. Having recent offline system images with bootable rescue media is very important, not just against malware infections but also to protect users against hardware failures or just plain stupidity. I think most of us would admit to having done silly things in the past; at least I have.

As has been often stated, the major security vulnerability is the interface between the chair and keyboard!

These are just my personal thoughts. Have a great day.

Regards,
Phil

garioch7 · Nov 14, 2023

I was just over at Wilders Security Forums. Here are the latest AV-Comparatives rankings just out.

Real-World Protection Test July-October 2023

Note that Windows Defender did not receive any awards. I think that I will stick with my current security suite for maximum protection.

Have a great day.

Regards,
Phil

trevo · Nov 14, 2023

garioch7 said:
These are just my personal thoughts.

I happen to agree with them, but in any event you didn't try to conflate fact with opinion, which unfortunately often happens on this subject.

man00 · Nov 14, 2023

add QEMM with PC Tools and your pc was set

antspants · Nov 14, 2023

garioch7 said:
Note that Windows Defender did not receive any awards. I think that I will stick with my current security suite for maximum protection.

I don’t use defender, but Microsoft scored the same as other products listed. Are we reading the same results? In the “Lower is better” scores, it competed relatively.

antspants · Nov 14, 2023

OH No

the Russians scored better than...
God forbid

Real-World Protection Test July-October 2023

The second half year results of the ongoing Real-World Protection Test July-October 2023 are now available.

www.av-comparatives.org

Like I said, pages back, the software not the country.

Almighty1 · Nov 14, 2023

I think CDs were more in the 1990s with PC Magazine, PC World, PC Computing as Norton was already Symantec by the time there were CDs as before that were 3.5" Floppies... I liked Computer Shopper because it was big and had all those places to buy things. And then there were all those free AOL (America Online) coasters which was after 1991 as prior to that, it was known as PC Link, Amiga Link, Apple Link, Mac Link which were all under Quantum Computer Services and separate incompatible services for each hardware platform before they merged it all and called it AOL. I was a assistant host on PC-Link in 1988-1990. Some people used XTree, others used Norton Commander and people like myself used list.com/fv.com:

LIST (Vern Buerg is dead) and ZBLIST

hercules-390.yahoogroups.narkive.com

Scannerman · Nov 15, 2023

Ya'll are bring back memories. While we're on the subject...

Scannerman · Nov 15, 2023

antspants said:
OH No the Russians scored better than...
God forbid

Real-World Protection Test July-October 2023

The second half year results of the ongoing Real-World Protection Test July-October 2023 are now available.

www.av-comparatives.org

Like I said, pages back, the software not the country.

I am with you in this, Comrade Antman. Just curious. Do you use the Kaspersky Total Care package or..