I Just Gave Up With Norton


jeffbeish

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After using Norton's Utilities back in the 1970's I followed it to the anti-virus software, Norton's Anti-Virus and so on. I switched to McAfee for one year since then and dropped them after that and back to Norton's. Each year I find some way to pay a much lower price they wanted for auto renewal and this year is no different since I just switched from Norton 360 something, I forget now, to Norton Deluxe. I think I've used most of their versions. I think next year I'll have my wife assume ownership then repeat the cycle as long as possible and as long as I live. I wonder why they can't just price their products and let us select what we can afford? It seems to me that is how businesses did it in the past. It's like they took up the hacker mentality.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3510
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® N4020
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    15.6-in. display HD (1366X768)
    Hard Drives
    128 GB M.2, PCLe, NVMe, SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3552
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N3060
    Memory
    4 GB
Norton Utilities actually didn't exist until 1982 when the company was known as Peter Norton Computing. Symantec bought the company and everything just went downhill ever since.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
I wonder why they can't just price their products and let us select what we can afford? It seems to me that is how businesses did it in the past. It's like they took up the hacker mentality.

I think the trick is NOT autorenewing software and looking for the best price close to subscription time. Sites like this one, have many deals for Nortons/Kaspersky etc. The fact it is an Australian website should make no difference as all the licenses are legitimate digital licences sent via email. Also, as a bonus, the conversion is currently:

AUDUSD
10.6173

I use kaspersky. One of the things I like about Kaspersky is that I can buy, for example, 4 separate keys, add them to the software and they will be used in succession as the prior license expires. Currently I believe I have a license for Antivirus/Firewall and VPN for the next 10 years for all my PC.s (according to the license’s I bought 1 year Protection for 5 devices) @ a cost all up of about AU$80. US$51.00 (due to a deal they had running on the site)


Here is a link to their Nortons Software product page. There are probably legitimate sites in the USA that offer the same price.
(I can assure you these are legitimate. I am in contact with Kaspersky customer support this year — as I bought Kaspersky subscriptions — due to VPN issues, they are responsive, polite and have no issue with my subscriptions.)

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3593
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Norton Utilities actually didn't exist until 1982 when the company was known as Peter Norton Computing. Symantec bought the company and everything just went downhill ever since.
Hum, Peter started on land lines before 1982. Can't remember the exact utility but I think it was "Wash." It has been awhile, so much of the very first stuff was on noisy phone lines.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3510
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® N4020
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    15.6-in. display HD (1366X768)
    Hard Drives
    128 GB M.2, PCLe, NVMe, SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3552
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N3060
    Memory
    4 GB
I think the trick is NOT autorenewing software and looking for the best price close to subscription time. Sites like this one, have many deals for Nortons/Kaspersky etc. The fact it is an Australian website should make no difference as all the licenses are legitimate digital licences sent via email. Also, as a bonus, the conversion is currently:

AUDUSD
10.6173

I use kaspersky. One of the things I like about Kaspersky is that I can but e.x. 4 seperate keys, add them to the siftware and they will be used in succession as the prior license expires. Currently I believe I have a license for Antivirus/Firewall and VPN for the next 10 years for all my PC.s (according to the license’s I bought 1 year Protection for 5 devices) @ a cost all up of about $80.


Here is a link to their Nortons Software product page. There are probably legitimate sites in the USA that offer the same price.
(I can assure you these are legitimate. I am in contact with Kaspersky customer support this year — as I bought Kaspersky subscriptions — due to VPN issues, they are responsive, polite and have no issue with my subscriptions.)

You are right. Somehow I manage to get the price back to the low end. It seems like they come at us with "don't go away mad," or the like. Then chatting with some person they make a deal to renew me at a lower price. I usually threaten to buy it on Amazon. :) But, it seems like it is getting harder and harder to accomplish. WIsh I could remember the phrase they use.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3510
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® N4020
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    15.6-in. display HD (1366X768)
    Hard Drives
    128 GB M.2, PCLe, NVMe, SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3552
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N3060
    Memory
    4 GB
My Microsoft Security (Defender) has none of these problems.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9510 OLED
    CPU
    11th Gen i9 -11900H
    Memory
    32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3050Ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    16:10 Aspect Ratio (3456 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    2 Thunderbolt™ 4 (USB Type-C™)
    1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (USB Type-C™)
    SD Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Orbi + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Macrium Reflect
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    LastPass Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    CoPilot
    BitLocker
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    i5
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Orbi + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    CoPilot
    BitLocker
My Microsoft Security (Defender) has none of these problems.
Some of us don’t trust Microsoft enough to put all our faith in MS Security/Defender. Well at least I don’t.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3593
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Some of us don’t trust Microsoft enough to put all our faith in MS Security/Defender. Well at least I don’t.
And you put your faith in Kaspersky, headquartered in Moscow, Russia?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9510 OLED
    CPU
    11th Gen i9 -11900H
    Memory
    32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3050Ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    16:10 Aspect Ratio (3456 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    2 Thunderbolt™ 4 (USB Type-C™)
    1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (USB Type-C™)
    SD Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Orbi + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Macrium Reflect
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    LastPass Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    CoPilot
    BitLocker
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    i5
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps Netgear Orbi + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Amazon Kindle
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    CoPilot
    BitLocker

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3593
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
My decisions are not made due to a softwares origins but on the software itself. I don’t generalise countries when referring to anything (that I am aware I have ever done, better identified as bigoted views) I also have read all the conspiracy and reports directed at Kaspersky, because it is “Russian” I can identify propaganda when I see it. If I am wrong, that’s on me. I take full responsibilities for my own actions.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3593
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
I have always had good service with Norton's. I will stick to it somehow.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3510
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® N4020
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    15.6-in. display HD (1366X768)
    Hard Drives
    128 GB M.2, PCLe, NVMe, SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3552
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N3060
    Memory
    4 GB
I haven't used a Norton product since.....I think Norton commander a bunch of years ago.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.
Used Norton Antivirus from 1998-til Mid 2005

Then Switched to Windows Live OneCare Beta as a Tester (severely infected my former AMD Athlon 2500+ based system then--idiot me listened to so called friend in a PC game, downloaded something i shouldn't have, attempted to open said folder and see how many it would stop lol (bad idea) So badly infected shop ended up having to replace all parts to get system stable again--(with lesser parts as couldn't afford to go balls to the wall again unforuately)
For my Extenstive Testing of OneCare, was gifted a paid subscription til Microsoft Security Essentials released

Then Switched to Avast Free when i believed article that Security Essentials wasn't that good for protection (used that til 2018)

Then Fully switched to Windows Defender/Microsoft Security full time, and in 2020 added Malwarbytes Premium for full protection
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel I7 10700
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B460M_DS3H Rev 1.0
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA Geforce 1660 Super
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VG245H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB Boot
    Samsung 860 Evo 1TB-Game SSD
    Western Digital Black 4TB Storage Drive

    External
    Western Digital Elements 500GB
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB
    Toshiba 2TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 8TB in External Enclosure
    Western Digital My Book 8TB (Primary Backup drive)
    PSU
    EVGA G3 650 Watt
    Case
    Thermaltake V200 TG RGB
    Cooling
    Arctic Freezer 7X, 3 Front Intake Fans, 1 120 Exhaust in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Logitech G513
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 X
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1000Mb/20 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free
    Other Info
    UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM 2.0, Macrium 8 Home Edition
I gave up on Norton's anti virus years ago when it decided to quarantine every thing that I compiled while writing software. What a pain it was to even do a test run of something I was developing. Norton themselves were no help. One help agent actually suggested that I not develop software on the particular machine I was using, as that would solve the quarantine problem.

Uninstalled that very afternoon.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite Wifi
    Memory
    32 GB GSkill Trident Neo with pretty LED lights
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
Hum, Peter started on land lines before 1982. Can't remember the exact utility but I think it was "Wash." It has been awhile, so much of the very first stuff was on noisy phone lines.
That might be possible but it was before my time as I was 8 in 1982 and didn't use computers until 1984 or so. Norton Utilities had something called Norton Calibrate which was in Norton SystemWorks but later disappeared. Calibrate allows non-destructive data low level formatting of the HDD's which worked well and was more advanced than SpinRite which was slow and basically you can't use the compute at the same time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
I stopped using 3rd party AVs a decade ago. They are so intrusive. They only get in my way like I am a 5 year old who doesn't know what I am doing. 3rd party AVs interrupt you most of the time making you think it is doing its job. So annoying. Even downloading an update makes it very painful sometimes.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
And you put your faith in Kaspersky, headquartered in Moscow, Russia?
That has nothing to do with it. In fact, if you look at what's possible in software, those are original products. Remember Microsoft bought companies as in the older days, their defragger either came from Norton or PC Tools just like Windows Defender is more of a free level of security and is not going to be the same as a commercial paid product. I have seen and I have fixed computers for banks as there McAfee has been superior to Norton when it comes to actually cleaning up a virus but Win32.tenga which overwrites all .exe files on the system will reactivate and no virus scanner which includes ESET NOD32, Kaspersky, Microsoft AntiVirus, Norton, McAfee will clean up as it will detect it while the virus reactivates but the virus will still attack all the files on the system for example since none of them will actually stop the virus and assuming you replaced all the .exe's with good copies, the virus will still strike again within 30 days since it can't detect the virus on any of the files and only detects it when it activates and then just allow the virus to attack every .exe file on the system. So from experience, I trust none of them as it only works for the non-dangerous stuff but when it comes to real problems, it will not stop the attacks except show you a pop up while the virus will attack everything else. You would only know when you actually experience a virus and not talking about the elemetary level of things it stops, there are lots of them that it won't stop. And if you look at software, have you noticed that it's always the Russians who can reverse engineer and patch the paid software faster before you even know the new version of the software is out. Windows Defender is good for a free product as there are lots of false positives and when you select allow on something, they always lists it as threat blocked when it should be threat allowed and then it keeps redetecting things that are allowed as well as lots of false positives. I find lab tests are meaningless as the only real experience is when one experiences a virus and the A/V that can stop it without it continuing to attack in the background would be what is good or not.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
That might be possible but it was before my time as I was 8 in 1982 and didn't use computers until 1984 or so. Norton Utilities had something called Norton Calibrate which was in Norton SystemWorks but later disappeared. Calibrate allows non-destructive data low level formatting of the HDD's which worked well and was more advanced than SpinRite which was slow and basically you can't use the compute at the same time.
Hum, that makes me feel old since I was 42 in 1982. :cool: My first "computer" work was analog systems in flight simulators. Several of us Air Force guys took up electronics as a hobby and digital computers began to come along, so we learned what we could about them. Years passed, finishing college and head long into the digital world as an engineer -- then along came computer/phone hookup that quickly grew into PC circuitry for the birth of Internet. Wow, 300 baud stuff. :p Someone should have warned us. :oops:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3510
    CPU
    Intel® Celeron® N4020
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    15.6-in. display HD (1366X768)
    Hard Drives
    128 GB M.2, PCLe, NVMe, SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3552
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N3060
    Memory
    4 GB
Hum, that makes me feel old since I was 42 in 1982. :cool: My first "computer" work was analog systems in flight simulators. Several of us Air Force guys took up electronics as a hobby and digital computers began to come along, so we learned what we could about them. Years passed, finishing college and head long into the digital world as an engineer -- then along came computer/phone hookup that quickly grew into PC circuitry for the birth of Internet. Wow, 300 baud stuff. :p Someone should have warned us. :oops:
Yep, but you also got to see things others did not so there is always some pluses and minutes. I'm one of the ones who got to see 9600bps and 18k modems before there was even a standard which was 1986 with everyone proposing to the CCITT now known as the ITU with a 9600bps standard. Hayes had their V96, USR with their High Speed Technology (HST), Concord with v32 and Telebit with 18K PEP (Packetized Ensemble Protocol). Telebit was the best at handling line noise while USR had the best SysOp program. The birth of internet was actually in 1969 while University of California, Berkeley developed the TCP/IP Networking stack. I do personally know Tom Jennings who created Fido Software and FidoNet in 1984. I guess in the late 1970s and 1980s, there was The Source, CompuServe, MCIMail, GTE Telenet, Tymnet and later in 1987 came Prodigy which was IBM & Sears and also the various PC-Link, MacLink which all merged to become AOL.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
Norton was Good till Symantec took it over.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro ***26100.863
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Digital Storm Velox
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10940X
    Motherboard
    MSI X299 PRO (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices)
    Memory
    128 GB DDR4 3200 MHz Corsair Vengance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Black
    Sound Card
    Integrated Motherboard Audio-Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CORSAIR XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    2 Samsung 980 Pro NVME 2TB
    1x Storage (6TB Western Digital
    PSU
    Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
    Case
    VELOX
    Cooling
    H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe RGB M2
    Mouse
    Corsair NIGHTSWORD RGB
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 127.0
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Cyber power CP1350AVRLCD -UPS
    NVIDIA 555.99 Driver
  • Operating System
    Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC13ANHi3
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    NUC13AN
    Memory
    64GB GSKILL DDR4 3200
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel On Board
    Sound Card
    Intel on Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial M2NVME
    PSU
    External 90 Watt
    Case
    NUC Tall
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    Razer
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Slimjet 43.0.1.0
    Other Info
    quiet & fast

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