Let's install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware


Stigg said:
All hell will break loose, I suspect. :scream:
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There will be a total eclipse of the sun and a plague of micro toads will cover the earth
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self built
    CPU
    Intel i8400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME Z370-P
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT710
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar D2X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SE2417HGXF Full HD Gaming Monitor, 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung V-NAND SSD 860EVO
    Other spinning HDDs
    PSU
    Xilence XP420
    Cooling
    PSU fan and stock CPU fan
    Mouse
    Microsoft
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avira free
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 on VMware (Release, Beta and Dev)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Stigg said:
All hell will break loose, I suspect. :scream:
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Get out your fireproof raincoats and boots, people!

I. OTOH, suspect that it will just be a day like all days, filled with the events that alter and illuminate our times, and you will be there to see it all.

(If you don't know who Walter Cronkite was, and you don't remember TV's sensational series You Are There, you're much, much younger than I am.)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
    Case
    Lenovo SFF
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome, sometimes Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
  • Operating System
    11 Pro 23H2 22631.3527
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
    Case
    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together
davewin11 said:
I honestly do not understand why anyone would want to dive straight into the first public release of Windows 11 when Windows 10 has years of MS supported life still to come.
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Who's diving in? I've been using it for a little over two months on a fully compatible laptop (my System One). That's now been restored to it's W10 system image and awaits the upgrade on the 5th.

I've also been running it on my unsupported System Two. As a test I'll be keeping W11 on it after the public release, just to see what (if any) problems may arise after the official launch.

The rest of my machines are unsupported for W11. Whether they get a hardware upgrade or a 'bypass requirements' install depends on the results of the above test. I'll give it about 6 months before deciding, after all there's four years of life left in W10.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Shawnlovehorses said:
Yeah, I am aware of that, but I don't want to lose security updates.
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No one knows whether you/we will loose any security updates and for all/any insiders know come Oct 5, if your rig is not up to the minimum recommended it may be the fat lady singing time and us running 11 on incompatible systems could simply be shown the door.

11 is working fine on my non-compatible CPU spare rig system and currently updating as and when. But Oct 5...........
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo M90q
    CPU
    i5 12500
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel CPU integrated
    Sound Card
    Intel MB intergrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 4k IPS
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    500GB NVMe Samsung 980 Pro
    1 TB NVMe Samsung 990 Pro
    1 TB Crucial MX500
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Logitech BT
    Mouse
    Logitech BT
    Internet Speed
    FTTP
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy X360
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    ATI/AMD Renoir
    Monitor(s) Displays
    UHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Air
    Mouse
    Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Internet Speed
    FTTP
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes
Well, I don't want to damage my Surface as I am out of warranty, I am using it for school and stuff. So, I dont' want to break but hoping for the best for the 5th. Anyways 10 is good for now :D PS: I did try Windows 11 on here, it was fine but I guess as newer builds come, that things may break :(
 

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System One

Shawnlovehorses said:
Well, I don't want to damage my Surface as I am out of warranty, I am using it for school and stuff. So, I dont' want to break but hoping for the best for the 5th. Anyways 10 is good for now :D PS: I did try Windows 11 on here, it was fine but I guess as newer builds come, that things may break :(
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Wise decision. I only use beta/preview software on a spare machine. My main rig will stay on 10 for a good while yet.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo M90q
    CPU
    i5 12500
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel CPU integrated
    Sound Card
    Intel MB intergrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 4k IPS
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    500GB NVMe Samsung 980 Pro
    1 TB NVMe Samsung 990 Pro
    1 TB Crucial MX500
    PSU
    Lenovo
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Logitech BT
    Mouse
    Logitech BT
    Internet Speed
    FTTP
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy X360
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Sound Card
    ATI/AMD Renoir
    Monitor(s) Displays
    UHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Air
    Mouse
    Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Internet Speed
    FTTP
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes
6391mb said:
Wise decision. I only use beta/preview software on a spare machine. My main rig will stay on 10 for a good while yet.
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Yeah, well I don't want to lose online support either if I have any issues. Anyways, let's hope for the best on the 5th .I really do miss that wonderful tablet mode in Windows 11, well it's not a mode but it makes it a real tablet :)
 

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System One

Shawnlovehorses said:
Yeah, I am aware of that, but I don't want to lose security updates.
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If you do install it I wonder if you would get any updates. If you stay with 10 you'll continue to get updates. But if you do opt to update make sure you perform a backup so you can go back to 10 if you need to.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
I see :) Not to worry, all my stuff is in the cloud with OneDrive, really I only use Edge, Office, OneDrive, Zoom, Windows Live :) How do I back up live contacts and stuff?
 

My Computer

System One

Shawnlovehorses said:
I see :) Not to worry, all my stuff is in the cloud with OneDrive, really I only use Edge, Office, OneDrive, Zoom, Windows Live :) How do I back up live contacts and stuff?
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You would use a system backup tool like, Aomie, and backup the system.. C drive. Then if you need to you can revert back to 10 from 11
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
I really personal never had a good time with 3rd party uninstallers or backups things, all my stuff is in OneDrive, I have the 365 subscription so I am all good :) I have my trusty Surface Recovery USB ready :) As soon as I reinstalled Windows 10, I have all my office, onedrive, just need to install zoom :)
 

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Shawnlovehorses said:
I really personal never had a good time with 3rd party uninstallers or backups things, all my stuff is in OneDrive, I have the 365 subscription so I am all good :) I have my trusty Surface Recovery USB ready :) As soon as I reinstalled Windows 10, I have all my office, onedrive, just need to install zoom :)
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Good luck with that. I would take the time to learn how to use a third party tool. You never know when you might need to use it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
BunnyJ said:
Good luck with that. I would take the time to learn how to use a third party tool. You never know when you might need to use it.
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I don't see why I need to back up my C: drive??? My computer is fine, thanks for the tips though :) .
 

My Computer

System One

Shawnlovehorses said:
I don't see why I need to back up my C: drive??? My computer is fine, thanks for the advise and also that tool isn't free.
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Let's say you run into issues running your incompatible hardware with Win11.. the best way to roll back to Win10 is with backup software. It makes a full copy of your apps and the OS so it becomes fast and easy to restore everything so it works again.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
Hi Bunny, the Surface Recovery Media Tool is the best way to recover my computer, it reinstalls Windows 10 20H2, it installs Office as well. :) Also all my files are always in OneDrive. I have no plans to go to Windows 11 except Windows update gives it to me as I will lose my support through Surface support. All I need is for school personal, Edge, Office, OneDrive, check all in Surface recovery. It's only zoom I need to install and Windows Live Thanks for your advise and have a good day!
 

My Computer

System One

I would avoid permanently replacing Windows 10 with 11 on my unsupported computer. I would wait a couple of builds to make sure most issues have been fixed and of course that it is still possible to bypass the checks for the upgrade.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
Microsoft actually halting unsupported CPU from getting security updates would be a first. I think there will be intense backlash, probably more so than the initial one for the CPU thing
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    2.6 GHz Intel i7-6500, has 2 cores
    Memory
    12 GB of RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 520 + Radeon M340
    Hard Drives
    447 GB SSD
    Browser
    Firefox > Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender rocks!
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