What did you change first?


What was the first thing you changed after installing Windows 11?

  • Moved Start Menu to the Left Side

    Votes: 37 39.8%
  • Removed Team Chat button from Taskbar

    Votes: 20 21.5%
  • Set different Wallpaper backgrounds for each Virtual Desktop

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Installed 3rd Party Start Option

    Votes: 7 7.5%
  • Modified Context Menu

    Votes: 10 10.8%
  • None of the Above - Something Else

    Votes: 14 15.1%
  • None at all

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Total voters
    93
I rarely have any issue with bloatware, as I usually either fresh install to Bare metal, and from an official Microsoft source, or I upgrade from a current working system so all the things I won't use are allegedly there for a reason so I just ignore them.

Bloat is something you see in Standard systems from Big suppliers, and this will vary on the supplier and the nature of the system you purchase

I am currently running just the two systems, my Desktop was built to my speciation from a pro system builder, the only "bloat" on the system was their logo and contact details in the standard support section of Windows 10 Pro. They also included the driver "extensions" which could be classed as bloat as they are not essential but are useful to control built in hardware.

My laptop, a Dell XPS 17 9700 had a little more Bloat but this was actually well placed and useful, though I replaced most with my own preferred applications for Malware protection and things such as live cell phone connection software
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview] [...AMD RYZEN 9 7950X OEM64GB [2x32GB Corsair Vengeance 560 AMD DDR5]3XS* ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 OC 8G
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview] [Win11 PRO HighEnd MUP-00005 DD]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS to my design
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9 7950X OEM
    Motherboard
    *3XS*ASUS TUF B650 PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    64GB [2x32GB Corsair Vengeance 560 AMD DDR5]
    Graphics Card(s)
    3XS* ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 OC 8G
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system [plus local sound to each monitor]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3XS Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 PCIe4 4 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 8TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    3XS Corsair RM850x 850w Fully Modular
    Case
    FDesign Define 7 XL BK TGL Case - Black
    Cooling
    3XS iCUE H150i ELITE Liquid Cool, Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3S +
    Internet Speed
    950 MB Down 55 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security [Latest]
    Other Info
    Also run...
    Dell XPS 17 Laptop
    HP Laptop 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64 HP 15.2"
    Nexus 7 Android tablet [x2]
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview 10.2 Tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Samsung S9 Plus Smartphone
    Wacom Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom ExpressKey Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest release]i7 10750H32 GBStock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17" + 32" 4K 3840 x 2160 HDR-10
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Stock Illuminated + Logi - MX Keys
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad +Logi Mx Master 3 or MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    950 MB Down 55 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
    Other Info
    Also use an Adjustable Support for Laptop and Adjustable stand for monitor
The only changes I've initially made have been to edit which app 'shortcuts' appear in the Task Bar and in Start Menu (first screen) and remove any duplication.

Have loaded only one freeware portable utility app, Sordum's Windows 11 Classic Context Menu which can be used to Toggle between the standard Win 11 Context Menu and the full pre-Win 11 style.

My personal preference is to install nothing which 'permanently' changes OS behaviour simply to emulate how Win 10, or any other OS, worked, as, for me, that totally undermines the process of learning about Win 11 and understanding its design/functionality; and it also potentially affects the testing of any future changes/fixes that will inevitably be introduced as Win 11 matures. Running a 'clean' installation is also the only way to be able to provide positive and constructive feedback to MS on any negative impacts of the current design and features. Meanwhile, if I want/need a PC that continues to provides the familiarity of Win 10, Win 7, or whatever else, then I'll continue do that on a different device (Physical, Virtual, 'Win to Go' or Dual Boot).
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    macOS 14.x (plus Windows 11, Debian, FreeBSD ...Apple M1 Max (T6001) - 8 performance 2 effici...32GB LPDDR5Apple M1 Max (32-core)
    OS
    macOS 14.x (plus Windows 11, Debian, FreeBSD for ARM64)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MacBook Pro M1 MAX
    CPU
    Apple M1 Max (T6001) - 8 performance 2 efficiency cores
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    Apple M1 Max (32-core)
    Hard Drives
    a) 1TB SSD + + 1TB SD Card + external SSD Drives
    Browser
    1. Safari 2. DuckDuckGo
    Antivirus
    -
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro, plus VirtualBox VMs: various ...i732GB
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro, plus VirtualBox VMs: various Windows & Linux
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio
    CPU
    i7
    Memory
    32GB
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD, plus external SSDs for Virtual Machines etc.
    Browser
    1. MS Edge 2. DuckDuckGo
    Antivirus
    Defender
winget uninstall cortana is the first thing I do.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProRyzen 9 3900xCorsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHzAsus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix x570-E
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440@240Hz, 2560x1440@70Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), Synology DS920+ 32 Tb NAS.
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Corsair Crystal 680x
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB Mk 2 SE Rapid Fire
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Elite
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Astro a50 Headset, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Tablet.
    Creative T6300 5.1 Speakers. TPM 2.0 Module.
  • At a glance

    Arch Linux KDERyzen 5600xCorsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHzGigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Operating System
    Arch Linux KDE
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix B550-E
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster AE-5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus Strix XG43VQ 43" Ultrawide
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
    Hard Drives
    Aorus Gen 4 NVMe 1 Tb (Windows Insider), Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb (data), Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb (backups), Samsung 860 Evo 2Tb (Home folder), Blu-ray player
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i
    Case
    Fractal Define R6
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 5 rev B and Corsair QL fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire
    Mouse
    Glorious Model D
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Corsair Virtuoso Headset
I change this settings with a batch file first.
Set Environment Variables PATH Entry
Activate Language Support Unicode UTF-8
Activate PowerShell ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted
Disable Block Downloaded Files
Disable UAC prompt for Built-in-Administrator Account
UAC Never Notify
Disable Optimize Drives Service
Disable Windows Search Service
Disable Reserved Storage
How do you enable utf8?
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProRyzen 9 3900xCorsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHzAsus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix x570-E
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440@240Hz, 2560x1440@70Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), Synology DS920+ 32 Tb NAS.
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Corsair Crystal 680x
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB Mk 2 SE Rapid Fire
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Elite
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Astro a50 Headset, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Tablet.
    Creative T6300 5.1 Speakers. TPM 2.0 Module.
  • At a glance

    Arch Linux KDERyzen 5600xCorsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHzGigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Operating System
    Arch Linux KDE
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix B550-E
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster AE-5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus Strix XG43VQ 43" Ultrawide
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
    Hard Drives
    Aorus Gen 4 NVMe 1 Tb (Windows Insider), Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb (data), Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb (backups), Samsung 860 Evo 2Tb (Home folder), Blu-ray player
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i
    Case
    Fractal Define R6
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 5 rev B and Corsair QL fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire
    Mouse
    Glorious Model D
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Corsair Virtuoso Headset
I consider all the install on demand apps to be bloatware.

Windows-11-Start-Menu-revamp.jpg
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
I consider all the install on demand apps to be bloatware.
K, maybe not bloatware..., let's call 'em nags.
I'd rather they send me an email to suggest apps, then put them in the Start Menu where I have to go to extra lengths to dispose of them!
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Pro
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
  • ASUS VivoBook 'Lite' ~ Windows 11 Home
None of the above. After a clean install:
- Changed to Dark mode
- Changed Display Scale from 150% to 125% (byproduct is 6 icons in Recommended)
- Removed Widgets & Search from TaskBar, and turned on hide
and many other things from my install checklist
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 ProIntel Core Ultra16GBIntel(R) Arc Graphics
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED
CPU
Intel Core Ultra
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) Arc Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio(SST)
Screen Resolution
2880 x 1800
Hard Drives
500 GB NVMe SSD
Internet Speed
1,500Mbps
Browser
Firefox, Edge
Antivirus
Windows Defender
I knew I'd miss some options. Care to share what changes you've made, or have you left it vanilla?
Well,, for me I left just about everything alone. The only change I made was to get rid of the more options from the context menu. I found a reg edit provided by Shawn. Other than that I didn't have a reason to change a thing
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 25H2 -26220.9022AMD Ryzen 5 5600GG.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
OS
Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 25H2 -26220.9022
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
Banana Junior 5600-G Series
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
Motherboard
Asus ROG Strix B550-F
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia geforce gtx titan x
Monitor(s) Displays
28" ASUS VP28U 4k
Screen Resolution
4K
Hard Drives
Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
PSU
EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
Case
Zalman i3 NEO
Cooling
ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
Keyboard
Corsair
Mouse
Amazon Generic with Cord
Internet Speed
Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
Browser
Firefox and Edge
Antivirus
MS - Defender
Other Info
Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
How do you enable utf8?

Code:
REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\CodePage" /v "ACP" /t REG_SZ /d "65001" /f
REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\CodePage" /v "OEMCP" /t REG_SZ /d "65001" /f
REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\CodePage" /v "MACCP" /t REG_SZ /d "65001" /f

Credit goes to Brink.

Maybe it is different for languages,
watch "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Nls\CodePage" key when you activate your utf8 support.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 25H2 Home Single Language (26200.8...Intel Core i3-1115G48GBon-board
OS
Windows 11 25H2 Home Single Language (26200.8037)
Computer type
Laptop
Manufacturer/Model
LENOVO IdeaPad 5 15ITL05
CPU
Intel Core i3-1115G4
Motherboard
There is no such a God, I only know mother-Earth
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
on-board
Sound Card
on-board
Monitor(s) Displays
(s) is too ambitious for me
Screen Resolution
1920*1080
Hard Drives
256GB (SSD)
PSU
I was very young when I last saw a PSU
Case
...
Cooling
My coldness is enough to cool the computer
Keyboard
A broken and very clean keyboard
Mouse
Rat
Internet Speed
Slowest internet connection in Europe
Browser
ChromePortable / FirefoxPortable / TorBrowser
Antivirus
G-Virus
Other Info
I can simply say that I took the red pill and I am not happy with it.
Thanks!
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 ProRyzen 9 3900xCorsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHzAsus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix x570-E
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440@240Hz, 2560x1440@70Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), Synology DS920+ 32 Tb NAS.
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Corsair Crystal 680x
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB Mk 2 SE Rapid Fire
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Elite
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Astro a50 Headset, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Tablet.
    Creative T6300 5.1 Speakers. TPM 2.0 Module.
  • At a glance

    Arch Linux KDERyzen 5600xCorsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHzGigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Operating System
    Arch Linux KDE
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix B550-E
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster AE-5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus Strix XG43VQ 43" Ultrawide
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
    Hard Drives
    Aorus Gen 4 NVMe 1 Tb (Windows Insider), Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb (data), Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb (backups), Samsung 860 Evo 2Tb (Home folder), Blu-ray player
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i
    Case
    Fractal Define R6
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 5 rev B and Corsair QL fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire
    Mouse
    Glorious Model D
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Corsair Virtuoso Headset
The only thing a changed is the 'Context Menu' behaving, no 'more'. For the rest I like the given UI.

As add-on I only installed 'ElevenClock' and 'RoundedTB'.
Thanks for the tip on RoundedTB. That really makes the Centered Taskbar much more palatable and gets us closer to the Mac Dock which MS has been coveting since macOS came out. Well, when OSX came out.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 11 Proi7-10700K64GB DDR4NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2070 Super
OS
Windows 11 Pro
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
PowerSpec G435
CPU
i7-10700K
Motherboard
ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
Memory
64GB DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2070 Super
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S3220DGF
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
1TB WDC .M2 Nvme SSD
4TB Samsung 870 SSD
PSU
750 Watt Gold
Case
Lian Li ATX 205
Cooling
Thermal-Take Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB
Mouse
Razer Basilisk X
Internet Speed
Gigabit
Browser
Brave
Antivirus
Windows Defender
What does rounded TB do/look like?

I am still hopping between left taskbar and centre. It doesn’t quite work on the left with that design for me. Better in the centre - except then you’re limited to the number of apps pinned to the taskbar as therun into the right taskbar icons.

I actually tried installing star dock - start 11. But the windows 10 menu option wasn’t quite windows 10 - it worked, it was ok, but I did notice slight slowing up in usage and split second delays so uninstalled again.

So the start menu is still frustrating me - the lack of any option to change colours. Either washed out grey, or all black. No middle ground! It actually all looks better in dark mode IMO - more contrast and colour pop - except I don’t want all black.

In W10 you could have the start menu one colour and the rest in light mode.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 11 Home 25H2Core i5-1035G132gb
    OS
    Windows 11 Home 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3606sa
    CPU
    Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    32gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 evo sata ssd
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally came installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • At a glance

    Windows 11 HomeIntel Core i5-1035G116gb
    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion ce3606sa
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1035G1
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Hynix Gold P31 2TB
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
The only changes I've initially made have been to edit which app 'shortcuts' appear in the Task Bar and in Start Menu (first screen) and remove any duplication.

Have loaded only one freeware portable utility app, Sordum's Windows 11 Classic Context Menu which can be used to Toggle between the standard Win 11 Context Menu and the full pre-Win 11 style.

My personal preference is to install nothing which 'permanently' changes OS behaviour simply to emulate how Win 10, or any other OS, worked, as, for me, that totally undermines the process of learning about Win 11 and understanding its design/functionality; and it also potentially affects the testing of any future changes/fixes that will inevitably be introduced as Win 11 matures. Running a 'clean' installation is also the only way to be able to provide positive and constructive feedback to MS on any negative impacts of the current design and features. Meanwhile, if I want/need a PC that continues to provides the familiarity of Win 10, Win 7, or whatever else, then I'll continue do that on a different device (Physical, Virtual, 'Win to Go' or Dual Boot).
As far as the Start Menu and the Taskbar are concerned, there's nothing to learn aside from the fact that they suck hard.

The first thing I did was to restore the Taskbar from Windows 10 by using the UndockingDisabled registry hack and apply all the necessary changes to get it as close as possible to how it used to be: install and configure Open-Shell, reinstate my Taskbar Toolbars, re-enable the System icons, hide the Search and Task View, make the clock on taskbar show seconds, change the (classic) taskbar icons size to small to make the taskbar height smaller. Then finally, I saw this post:

Been using ExplorerPatcher trouble-free for 2 days now (in concert with Open-Shell). As for it potentially affecting future changes/fixes, see Valinet's response here:

My take on it is I see no reason to be worried, as it's easy enough to remove the dxgi.dll file from C:\Windows again and reboot after. No system files are being overwritten, so I don't believe it can hurt, and, the worst that could happen is that after a future update Windows ditches the code needed to restore the classic taskbar thereby effectively forcing us (as in, "we, the people who don't like to use GUI components with the usability level of a boulder"...) to go look for some kind of alternative solution.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    11 Homei7 13650HX16GB DDR5GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
    Antivirus
    What's an antivirus?
  • At a glance

    11 Homei5 1135G716GB DDR4Intel Iris Xe
    Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    30Mbit/s up, 500Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
So I've now installed rounded tb as well. It looks good if you don't have the clock and battery settings on the right - (ie just the one, centred task bar) - not sure how you access those if system tray not showing. Also is there any way to shrink the taskbar more width ways with rounded tb? ie make the icons closer together. Can't see a way to do that - only to shrink the height.
 

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As far as the Start Menu and the Taskbar are concerned, there's nothing to learn aside from the fact that they suck hard.

The first thing I did was to restore the Taskbar from Windows 10 by using the UndockingDisabled registry hack and apply all the necessary changes to get it as close as possible to how it used to be: install and configure Open-Shell, reinstate my Taskbar Toolbars, re-enable the System icons, hide the Search and Task View, make the clock on taskbar show seconds, change the (classic) taskbar icons size to small to make the taskbar height smaller. Then finally, I saw this post:

Been using ExplorerPatcher trouble-free for 2 days now (in concert with Open-Shell). As for it potentially affecting future changes/fixes, see Valinet's response here:

My take on it is I see no reason to be worried, as it's easy enough to remove the dxgi.dll file from C:\Windows again and reboot after. No system files are being overwritten, so I don't believe it can hurt, and, the worst that could happen is that after a future update Windows ditches the code needed to restore the classic taskbar thereby effectively forcing us (as in, "we, the people who don't like to use GUI components with the usability level of a boulder"...) to go look for some kind of alternative solution.
@hdmi

Thanks for your observations and I understand your views, but ExplorerPatcher does nothing I need. In fact, I am quite content with the way the combination of built-in Win 11 launch options work (TaskBar & Start combined with Desktop shortcuts and Virtual Desktops). Taking into account that Microsoft has been indicating for some considerable time it's intention to remove the resource wasteful Live Tiles feature and also that Tablet Mode has also been removed in Windows 11 it seems inevitable that design changes and compromises had to be made; and the end result, for me, works O.K. Perhaps the fact that I work with a variety of Desktops on an almost daily basis including MacOS and Linux (primarily Gnome, KDE and Xfce) in addition to a number of Windows versions makes me more accepting of varied approaches to interface design; but I'm also pretty sure that MS will implement changes and introduce its own enhancements to the Win 11 desktop once the dust settles. At the moment, their focus is primarily on promoting take up; and there is no doubt that the joint plan of Win 11 launch, combined with a lengthy support commitment for Win 10 users, has been successful so far.

As you say the ExplorerPatcher implementation is somewhat different to the other 'menu' modifiers; and it is relatively easy to completely reverse the its effects (uninstall) by following the developer's guidance, but each to their own it's simply not for me.
 

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How do you enable utf8?
Settings | Time & Language | Language & region | Administrative language settings | Administrative | Change system locale | Beta: Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support

Please note, the "Beta" here means that although the UTF-8 code page is officially supported as of Windows 10 1903 May 2019 Update, not all APIs have been updated by Mickeysoft to support UTF-8 yet, so you may run into problems if you enable this option.
 

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The only thing a changed is the 'Context Menu' behaving, no 'more'. For the rest I like the given UI.

As add-on I only installed 'ElevenClock' and 'RoundedTB'.
'RoundedTB', just downloaded it and like it. Thanks.
 

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@hdmi

Thanks for your observations and I understand your views, but ExplorerPatcher does nothing I need. In fact, I am quite content with the way the combination of built-in Win 11 launch options work (TaskBar & Start combined with Desktop shortcuts and Virtual Desktops). Taking into account that Microsoft has been indicating for some considerable time it's intention to remove the resource wasteful Live Tiles feature and also that Tablet Mode has also been removed in Windows 11 it seems inevitable that design changes and compromises had to be made; and the end result, for me, works O.K. Perhaps the fact that I work with a variety of Desktops on an almost daily basis including MacOS and Linux (primarily Gnome, KDE and Xfce) in addition to a number of Windows versions makes me more accepting of varied approaches to interface design; but I'm also pretty sure that MS will implement changes and introduce its own enhancements to the Win 11 desktop once the dust settles. At the moment, their focus is primarily on promoting take up; and there is no doubt that the joint plan of Win 11 launch, combined with a lengthy support commitment for Win 10 users, has been successful so far.

As you say the ExplorerPatcher implementation is somewhat different to the other 'menu' modifiers; and it is relatively easy to completely reverse the its effects (uninstall) by following the developer's guidance, but each to their own it's simply not for me.
I was only trying to point out why your remark of "for me, that totally undermines the process of learning about Win 11 and understanding its design/functionality; and it also potentially affects the testing of any future changes/fixes that will inevitably be introduced as Win 11 matures" doesn't really make much sense at all, at least to me. Also, I can't for the life of me see how the simple removal of basic functionalities that can optionally be used to help to improve productivity (the ability to drag and drop files onto pinned apps, taskbar toolbars and a taskbar clock that gives the option to show seconds on all display devices in a multimonitor setup, etc.,...) meets your description of "their focus is primariliy on promoting take up" when, clearly, in that regard their focus was primarily on being as typifyingly annoying as they possibly could have been.
 

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Removed Team Chat button on taskbar, added my main apps to taskbar, so far left it centered it is kinda growing on me I guess.
 

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