Insider Windows 11 Insider Canary Build 25393.1 (23H2) - June 14

Davy49 · Jun 14, 2023

Shawn,
As always thanks so much for keeping us informed about everything, I'm currently downloading this update while typing this message
David

Brink · Jun 14, 2023

CountMike · Jun 14, 2023

dbartenstein · Jun 14, 2023

Pulling it in now.

rseiler · Jun 14, 2023

I wonder if Microsoft shouldn't have pulled the trigger on this Canary thing until there was an actual need for it, which there definitely hasn't been to date. Maybe it should have coincided, or narrowly preceded, the Win12 stuff, assuming there's even going to be one. If there isn't, this channel is beyond puzzling.

Josoft · Jun 14, 2023

fz789 · Jun 14, 2023

With no release notes, no blog post, Microsoft should change the name of this channel from Canary to GuineaPig

CountMike · Jun 14, 2023

fz789 said:
With no release notes, no blog post, Microsoft should change the name of this channel from Canary to GuineaPig

For MS we are all Guinea Pigs.

CountMike · Jun 14, 2023

joaovodias · Jun 14, 2023

Updating it rn

BrianInEngland · Jun 14, 2023

rseiler said:
I wonder if Microsoft shouldn't have pulled the trigger on this Canary thing until there was an actual need for it, which there definitely hasn't been to date. Maybe it should have coincided, or narrowly preceded, the Win12 stuff, assuming there's even going to be one. If there isn't, this channel is beyond puzzling.

These are 23H2 builds, Dev is 22H2. I assumed Dev was the leading to the final 23H2 release later this year. It makes no sense.

rseiler · Jun 14, 2023

BrianInEngland said:
These are 23H2 builds, Dev is 22H2. I assumed Dev was the leading to the final 23H2 release later this year. It makes no sense.

Yeah, 23481 still reads as 22H2, which is nonsensical at this point. How could it not be leading to 23H2? I guess the implication is that Canary is going to push to Dev in the near future, but we know for sure that 23H2 isn't going to be 25xxx, so that's problematical too. I think the 23H2 in Canary must just be a placeholder at this point so as not to tip their hand about anything happening next year. At some point, it'll change to 24H2 or whatever, and Dev to 23H2.

Marcus Vinicus · Jun 14, 2023

CountMike said:
For MS we are all Guinea Pigs.

MS seem to be obsessed with the continuous improvement thing. They've got so many versions of Windows 11 floating around alone it has got difficult to keep track of them all. :what:

Windows 11 version history - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Josoft · Jun 14, 2023

Fabler2 · Jun 14, 2023

Hmm... What's the point of this?

Marcus Vinicus · Jun 14, 2023

Fabler2 said:
Hmm... What's the point of this?

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Fugly icons! :ffs:

Brink · Jun 14, 2023

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cereberus · Jun 14, 2023

rseiler said:
Yeah, 23481 still reads as 22H2, which is nonsensical at this point. How could it not be leading to 23H2? I guess the implication is that Canary is going to push to Dev in the near future, but we know for sure that 23H2 isn't going to be 25xxx, so that's problematical too. I think the 23H2 in Canary must just be a placeholder at this point so as not to tip their hand about anything happening next year. At some point, it'll change to 24H2 or whatever, and Dev to 23H2.

Canary is just a platform for MS to test ideas and never leads to any version directly - it is just a high tech scratch-pad really.

Back in the day, items got added to Fast Ring (became Dev), and eventually the Fast Ring version was released on Slow Ring (became Beta). As you got nearer Release date they all converged.

Now you have to think of it as:

Canary - early sight of new ideas that may never see the light of day in release (This is rather like the old Skipahead).
Dev early sight of features that will probably make it to release but no guarantee.
Beta early sight of features that are likely to make it to release but no guarantee.

What is irritating is when new features hit Beta before Dev!

Back in the day, it was simple - Fast Ring users saw all new features first and higher risk of being buggy.
Slow Ring users saw the SAME features a bit later when initial bugs had be ironed out.

In general, all features in Slow Ring got into release except notably the infamous Sets feature which was a heap of camel dung apart from the long awaited File Explorer with tabs (which we have now as an indendent feature).

So users generally opted for either the Fast Ring if a bit cavalier, or the Slow Ring if more conservative.

Now Insiders have to run both Beta and Dev if they want to see all features which is more effort and confusing.

Personally, I am not really interested in testing features unless they have a decent chance of making it to release.

Frankly, the Insider Programme is a mess now.

CornishRattler · Jun 14, 2023

Lately I am spending more time on my mac because every beta release there is always something new and forward, Windows insider channels since 11 are just a crock of sh!t@

As @cereberus said above is just a confusing mess. The latest canary build contains what? A focus widget....good grief! and even then if you aren’t one of the anointed in the A band you can spend 45 odd mins updating for absolutely no reason whatsoever