Windows Gurus - what's the difference between the various ENG versions


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Hi folks

since you can set region and keyboard to almost anything you like what's the actual difference between ENG-US, ENG-GB and ENG-INTN'L versions of Windows -- any ideas -- there doesn't seem to be any unless you use the wrong keyboard !! or the price of GB-UK if you buy it from Ms store is far higher than anywhere else.

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Setting a UK keyboard on an en-us Windows causes that input language indicator icon to appear in the Taskbar notification area.

There are only en-us & en-gb.
English international is merely a name for en-gb.
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Denis
 
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ENG-GB version has proper spelling!
 

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Eng-GB and Eng-Int are same thing really and use UK keyboard and of course UK spelling, uk voices etc.

Sometimes Insider Programme features do not work on UK version which is annoying!
 

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You can read all about EN-UK and EN-US keyboard layouts in Wikipedia British and American keyboards.

Where in the Netherlands we use the US-International layout, because (as far as I know) only on those you can compose accented characters by typing an accent key first followed by the character you want to have accented. Exmaples: 'e results in é / `a results in à.
If we want to type just a ', we have to type a space after it (unless the character following has no accented version. For instance 'l will result in 'l, no space needed.

In Germany and France they have special keys for the accented characters. In Dutch there are some accented characters in use, but not as many (and not as often used) as in those languages. As I know that Icelandic has many special characters as well (I long ago in my typesetting work edited a translation of the Edda, but I don't remember very much of that), I wonder if you have a special keyboard layout. Maybe the market is too small to have own keyboard layouts?
 

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ENG-GB version has proper spelling!
Oh!? You mean the french spelling instead of old english?
For example colour instead of color.
 

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Oh!? You mean the french spelling instead of old english?
For example colour instead of color.
Don't American bath and basins have faucets? To my ears that sounds a lot more French than my taps :wink:
 

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Oh!? You mean the french spelling instead of old english?
For example colour instead of color.
No I don't!

The late Anglo-Norman colour, which is the standard UK spelling, has been the usual spelling in Britain since the 13th century and was chosen by Dr. Johnson's Dictionary of the English Language (1755) along with other Anglo-Norman spellings such as favour, honour, etc. The Latin spelling color was occasionally used from the 15th century onward, mainly due to Latin influence; it was lemmatized by Webster's American Dictionary of the English Language (1828), along with favor, honor, etc., and is currently the standard US spelling.
 

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@jimbo45


EN-US = Bar
EN-UK = Pub
EN-INT = Watering hole.


:D
 

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There are A LOT of differences between EN-US, EN-UK and EN-International versions of Windows. What comes to US and UK, they are localized for those markets by default. While the international version has other defaults like 24h clock etc... the list is too long to go through here.

If you are from the US, definitely use the US version and if from UK use the UK version, the rest of the world should either use the original US version (in some very specific cases) or the International version. Depending on what your requirements are.

Of all the versions, the US version works absolutely best without personalization tweaks when you add into the mix software like MS Office and MSSQL, etc...
 

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On my Win 11 Pro there's no option for English - International but there is for English -World and the long date formats are different. So there could quite well be other differences.
 

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As long as we're on languages, for decades the diplomatic language seemed to be French but the world has gravitated to English which I believe has been caused by the technology changes and its widespread usage of the last century. English can be more precise in terms and application of it. When we visited family in Germany in '90 we were impressed by the younger folks knowing English while their parents our age were reluctant to use it but could.
 

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Hast thou not seen, hast thou not heard...

ꟻoɿ γouɿ inʇoɿmɒɟion, ɟ⑁iƨ iƨ ɟ⑁ɘ nɘw lɒnϱuɒϱɘ!
 

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Hast thou not seen, hast thou not heard...

ꟻoɿ γouɿ inʇoɿmɒɟion, ɟ⑁iƨ iƨ ɟ⑁ɘ nɘw lɒnϱuɒϱɘ!
Try Georgian from Georgia (Europe) not the US state !!!

გამარჯობა ედვინ
როგორ ხარ დღეს -- მე წავედი პაბში !!

If you can make head or tail of that lot !!!! Good luck.

BTW best bars (outside Iceland) on the planet are in Tblisi - cheap too - even if they have a crazy language. !!!

Old London Bar (Tblisi Georgia)

Screenshot_20230916_162125.png

Have a good one on me !!!

Georgians have always been fun loving etc in spite of their proximity to Russia !!!


Cheers
jimbo
 

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ꟻoɿ γouɿ inʇoɿmɒɟion, ɟ⑁iƨ iƨ ɟ⑁ɘ nɘw lɒnϱuɒϱɘ!
It means: For your information, this is the new language.
Just a joke, the sentence is written in a somewhat strange way (most characters turned around from right to left)
Has nothing to do with other languages!:-)
 

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გამარჯობა ედვინ
როგორ ხარ დღეს -- მე წავედი პაბში !!

If you can make head or tail of that lot !!!! Good luck.
Since Google translate exists that's not that difficult:
Hi Edwin
How are you today -- I went to the pub !!


And of course I realise that the translation via Google is not perfect at all, but it gives the possibility to read someting that's absolutely unreadable when you don't master that language.
But you're right, without translation program you would not have the slightest idea what's written there. As is with many other languages.
 

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გამარჯობა ედვინ
როგორ ხარ დღეს -- მე წავედი პაბში !!
Რა არის ეს? რატომ არ ექნება ამას აზრი? დღევით ნათელი.
 

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    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card

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