Solved Clean-Install of 22631.2506 Pro fails repeatedly

Bree · Nov 5, 2023

SIW2 said:
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From the sublime to the ridiculous.... :lmao:

SIW2 · Nov 5, 2023

except i havent installed it. the pic is from winpe cobbled from the installation media. It was getting a bit chunky so I left out wow support.
I used the 64 bit version of imagine to take the pic. It is quite handy little program, runs even in bog standard winpe.

Imagine: Freeware Image & Animation Viewer for Windows

www.nyam.pe.kr

wordsworth · Nov 5, 2023

Mark Phelps said:
I used DISM on the ISO I downloaded and it clearly indicates 22621.2428.

Sorry, eyesight is not very good anymore. Thanks for a link. I will check it out.

No problem as I can symphasize with the eye thing and I should have made the link more obvious. Hope all the suggestions and help from people in this thread lead to success in resolving this odd problem.

Mark Phelps · Nov 5, 2023

Bree said:
Apparently you missed my post #23

Yeah, I DID miss it -- sorry!! Going blind in my GOOD eye, so I miss a lot these days.

Mark Phelps · Nov 5, 2023

OK, so as a test, I mounted the 22631.2506 ISO I got from UUPDUMP and ran a repair-install. My presumption was that if the ISO was bad, the install would fail. But it did not. It ran all the way through. Looks like I will have to explore the 22621.2428 option and see if that works.

ian50 · Nov 6, 2023

There's several earlier threads on this, including one where the idea that MS had "blocked" Local Account installation for 23H2 was put up for discussion. Apart from other comments on that thread, I'd commented twice on the ability to use UUPDUMP to generate an ISO for 22631.2506 for inplace upgrade or clean install. I'd done that using UUPDUMP.CN, with normal success, no interference or difficulty in using a Local Account when trying a clean install.

I also used a direct download ISO from MS to test this as well. MS is offering an ISO 22631.2506 (I know Brink has said this is 22631.2428, but the clean install I completed said 2506 in Winver). Used Rufus to translate both ISO's (UUPDUMP and MS site) onto a USB for Setup, both inplace and clean, with no interference on choice of Local Account for the clean install.

This was over a week ago now. I haven't needed to try again of course, but I wonder why this issue keeps on running in new threads ?

Ghot · Nov 6, 2023

ian50 said:
including one where the idea that MS had "blocked" Local Account installation for 23H2 was put up for discussion

I was on 22621.2506 (22H2 - local account). I just ran the "Enablement Package" and poof, I was on 22631.2506 (23H2)

KB5027397 Enablement Package for Windows 11 version 23H2 Feature Update

Microsoft Support: Summary Windows 11, versions 22H2 and 23H2 share a common core operating system with an identical set of system files. Therefore, the new features in Windows 11, version 23H2 are included in the latest monthly quality update for Windows 11, version 22H2 but are in an inactive...

www.elevenforum.com

There's things in 23H2 that I don't have... like Copilot, Gallery, etc. That's due to being on a local account.
And no... I don't miss them.

POLYSIUS · Nov 6, 2023

I am suprised that all the experts with hundreds of posts don't know how to install Windows using the PE-Installation.
But beside that, I bet that your Disk 4 Partition 1 has this ID: c12a7328-f81f-11d2-ba4b-00a0c93ec93b
I hope that there is s.o. who knows what that means.

Ghot · Nov 6, 2023

POLYSIUS said:
I am suprised that all the experts with hundreds of posts don't know how to install Windows using the PE-Installation.
But beside that, I bet that your Disk 4 Partition 1 has this ID: c12a7328-f81f-11d2-ba4b-00a0c93ec93b
I hope that there is s.o. who knows what that means.

You mean like this...

Win10XPE - Build Your Own Rescue Media [2] - Windows 10 Help Forums

As many here know, hosting has been a long running issue with Me and Pre-Made Rescue Media... https://www.tenforums.com/software-a...tml#post434481 So by limiting Pre-Made ISO's - It helped reduce the download demand on my free account(s).... Prior to Jan

www.tenforums.com

Win10XPE will help you build a lightweight desktop Windows Preinstallation Environment (WinPE) for performing tasks or troubleshooting a Windows OS while it is Offline or for installing a Windows OS. It can be booted via USB drive, CD-ROM, or hard disk.

Or this...

WinPE - Create a Custom Windows Install USB Tutorial

As you all (should) already know, Windows Setup's install.wim file is growing with each new feature upgrade. It's coming close and soon going over the 4 GB size limit of a FAT32 formatted install media. Today, as I write this, (22-FEB-2022), downloading WIM-based most current public release...

www.elevenforum.com

POLYSIUS · Nov 6, 2023

Ghot said:
You mean like this...

No, Sir
You can start an installation from any PE-Media or PXE, if you don't want to use USB.

Ghot · Nov 6, 2023

POLYSIUS said:
No, Sir
You can start an installation from any PE-Media or PXE, if you don't want to use USB.

Yeah. That's what the quote under the first link says.

dacrone · Nov 6, 2023

POLYSIUS said:
I am suprised that all the experts with hundreds of posts don't know how to install Windows using the PE-Installation.
But beside that, I bet that your Disk 4 Partition 1 has this ID: c12a7328-f81f-11d2-ba4b-00a0c93ec93b
I hope that there is s.o. who knows what that means.

We’ll all take notes. Enlighten us, please.

Bree · Nov 6, 2023

ian50 said:
I also used a direct download ISO from MS to test this as well. MS is offering an ISO 22631.2506 (I know Brink has said this is 22631.2428, but the clean install I completed said 2506 in Winver). Used Rufus to translate both ISO's (UUPDUMP and MS site) onto a USB for Setup, both inplace and clean, with no interference on choice of Local Account for the clean install.

It is 22631.2428 on the ISO, but if you are online and let Setup check for updates during the install it will download and install the .2506 update.

I don't use Rufus, there are some simple fixes to run Setup on unsupported devices, or to be able to skip connecting to the internet and to use a Local account. I've recently tested a clean install of the 22631.2428 ISO on an unsupported device. I found that all the usual workarounds for 22H2 still work for 23H2.

Mark Phelps · Nov 6, 2023

Not able to do much today as I had my bi-monthly eye injections. They coat the eyes with a gel that is a topical anesthetic -- so it's all a blur until that dissolves. I typed this up yesterday when I could still see.

IanMosley · Nov 6, 2023

I posted this yesterday in another thread - new .ISOs dated 1 November

I downloaded the Windows 11 version 23H2 (22631.2506) amd64 .ISO and it ran OK.

Mark Phelps · Nov 6, 2023

IanMosley said:
I posted this yesterday in another thread - new .ISOs dated 1 November

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I downloaded the Windows 11 version 23H2 (22631.2506) amd64 .ISO and it ran OK.

With some difficult, I was able to read your post -- so I tried the UUPDUMP thing with the same item, but when I run the script, all it does is download about 700MB of Windows Update files. It does not create an ISO file. So, how did you download the ISO file?

Ghot · Nov 6, 2023

Mark Phelps said:
With some difficult, I was able to read your post -- so I tried the UUPDUMP thing with the same item, but when I run the script, all it does is download about 700MB of Windows Update files. It does not create an ISO file. So, how did you download the ISO file?

When you run the xxxxxxxxxx.cmd file to create the ISO, you have to wait until it tells you it's done.
It will "look" like it's done, but it really isn't.

What's the exact link you're using to download the... package?

This is the link you want to use... for the non-Insider version...

Select language for Windows 11, version 23H2 (22631.2506) amd64

Select language for Windows 11, version 23H2 (22631.2506) amd64 on UUP dump. UUP dump lets you download Unified Update Platform files, like Windows Insider updates, directly from Windows Update.

uupdump.net

Choose these options...

This is what's in the "download package". Extract this to a folder on your desktop, then double click the file in the RED box, to create the ISO image.

Continued in post #59

dacrone · Nov 6, 2023

^ run that cmd file as admin btw. Just sayin..

And when it’s done, it’ll say “Press 0” to finish and close the powershell window.

Ghot · Nov 6, 2023

@Mark Phelps and anyone else...

Starting in post #57... when you run the uup_download_windows.cmd from UUPDump, it opens a Powershell window with a BLACK background. This is the download phase of the operation.
It's downloading all the pieces it will need to build the ISO.

Then during the ISO building phase, the Powershell window background turn BLUE, and it builds the ISO.
When it's finished you will see this (YELLOW box)...

When this particular ISO is built, it will be 5.8GB and it took 45 minutes to complete on my computer.
This is what the ISO will be called...

22631.2506.231018-1809.23H2_RELEASE_SVC_PROD3_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
This is the Windows 11 Pro x64... 23H2 ISO.

This ISO is up-to-date and includes the Enablement Package, and the "Servicing Stack Update".

@Brink

Note: I just spent 45 minutes running this, just so I could get the screenshots.
I want paid in... Big Macs.

hsehestedt · Nov 6, 2023

Could I just ask for a quick test from anyone who has created a 22631.2506 image?

If you could simply mount that ISO image by double-clicking it, then run the setup.exe located at the root of that image. All I want to know is whether setup starts up successfully for you. Once setup starts (if it starts that is), you can cancel setup, no need to go any further.

Thanks for the help!