Error 0xc0000017

very_452001 · Feb 13, 2024

Hi,

I try to install windows 10 on this cheap pre-owned parts Desktop PC build I recently put together:

Specifications:

+ HyperX Predator 16GB DDR4 3200MHz XMP Dual-Channel RAM.

+ Corsair 450 Watts 80+ Certified ATX PSU Power Supply Unit.

+ PNY M.2 NVMe 500GB SSD Drive

+ ASUS B450M-A Motherboard, AMD Socket AM4, HDMI, DVI, USB 3.1, Aura Sync RGB Header.

+ AMD Ryzen 3200G Multi-Core Processor (6MB Cache, 4.0GHz Max Boost) with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics.

+ Samsung Optical Disc Drive

However I get this error message, how do I fix please?:

Finally will Windows 11 Install on this? Does my spec meet the TPM Win 11 system requirements? If I do manage to fix the error how many years left does this PC have left before it becomes old/slow/obsolete?

x BlueRobot · Feb 14, 2024

My immediate thoughts are have you tested the hardware, especially the RAM with MemTest86?

very_452001 · Feb 14, 2024

x BlueRobot said:
My immediate thoughts are have you tested the hardware, especially the RAM with MemTest86?

Doesn't the Bios automatically carry out its POST test when turning on the computer? To get to that blue screen above the computer must past the POST test right?

How do I run the MemTest86?
What other tests I can do?
Any tests for the SSD drive?

x BlueRobot · Feb 14, 2024

POST is very rudimentary if it even still exists on modern hardware, you can follow these instructions: Test RAM with PassMark MemTest86 (version 10.6 was used)

You'll want to run it for at least 8 passes.

RJARRRPCGP · Feb 14, 2024

That looks like a Windows Boot Manager error. I wish that Microsoft would show that, like they did with Vista and 7. Now, it looks like Windows Boot Manager errors are disguised in the same blue color as a stop error!

What I see here, looks like the Windows equivalent of a grub-rescue screen. (minus the special command prompt on the error screen)
Or equivalent to an initramd failure in Linux.

So in Windows 8x and later, a boot loader error, can get confused with a stop error.

very_452001 · Feb 14, 2024

x BlueRobot said:
POST is very rudimentary if it even still exists on modern hardware, you can follow these instructions: Test RAM with PassMark MemTest86 (version 10.6 was used)

You'll want to run it for at least 8 passes.

How long approx will it take for a test like this to run for 8 passes?

So upon boot I can run this program just from a USB stick?

Is there a similar program that tests all hardware components in my PC not just RAM?

very_452001 · Feb 14, 2024

RJARRRPCGP said:
That looks like a Windows Boot Manager error. I wish that Microsoft would show that, like they did with Vista and 7. Now, it looks like Windows Boot Manager errors are disguised in the same blue color as a stop error!

What I see here, looks like the Windows equivalent of a grub-rescue screen. (minus the special command prompt on the error screen)
Or equivalent to an initramd failure in Linux.

So in Windows 8x and later, a boot loader error, can get confused with a stop error.

Hi yes what causes these boot manager errors and please advise me on how to fix this please?
What do you mean by grub-rescue screen?

RJARRRPCGP · Feb 14, 2024

very_452001 said:
What do you mean by grub-rescue screen?

That's what you get in the Linux world, if the grub bootloader can't find the kernel. Or otherwise failed pre-kernel-stage.

x BlueRobot · Feb 15, 2024

very_452001 said:
So upon boot I can run this program just from a USB stick?

Yes and it can take a few hours to complete.

very_452001 said:
Is there a similar program that tests all hardware components in my PC not just RAM?

No, you would have to download the individual tools separately and then put them on a bootable USB.

very_452001 · Feb 15, 2024

RJARRRPCGP said:
That's what you get in the Linux world, if the grub bootloader can't find the kernel. Or otherwise failed pre-kernel-stage.

Hi yes kindly asking to please advise on how to fix this issue and what's causing this issue? Hardware or windows software issue?

very_452001 · Feb 15, 2024

x BlueRobot said:
Yes and it can take a few hours to complete.

No, you would have to download the individual tools separately and then put them on a bootable USB.

Okay what are the most popular tools that pre owned system builders use to check all hardware is okay before installing windows?

How do you make a bootable USB containing these different separate tools and will any usb port on the computer work including the front usb ports?

So to rule out, there isn't a all-in-one tool to check everything hardware wise?

very_452001 · Feb 17, 2024

Hi coming back anyone can please help.

x BlueRobot · Feb 18, 2024

very_452001 said:
Okay what are the most popular tools that pre owned system builders use to check all hardware is okay before installing windows?

MemTest86; SeaTools Bootable; Furmark and Prime95. Although, you should ideally be running a disk testing tool specifically designed for the brand of hard disk you have.

very_452001 said:
How do you make a bootable USB containing these different separate tools

You can't; you're going to have to load them each individually and any USB port will work.

very_452001 said:
there isn't a all-in-one tool to check everything hardware wise?

No.

very_452001 · Feb 18, 2024

x BlueRobot said:
MemTest86; SeaTools Bootable; Furmark and Prime95. Although, you should ideally be running a disk testing tool specifically designed for the brand of hard disk you have.

You can't; you're going to have to load them each individually and any USB port will work.

No.

Okay to summarise:

- MemTest86 is for RAM?

- SeaTools Bootable is for SSD? Can you recommend a tool for Brand PNY?

- Furmark is for Graphics?

- Prime95 is for CPU?

The tools above are 64-bit or 32-bit?

Any tools for the Motherboard or the Bios POST test is sufficient for the motherboard?

You mean I can put all those tools on a single USB stick and run them individually?

How many hours in total will I be looking at to run all those tools/tests above?

I just want to test whether the hardware components work to a standard not to stress test them for hours to check for stability as these are pre-owned hardware parts and I don't expect them to be 100% like a new car engine you know what I mean.

Hardware components degrade over time right? For example a USB drive wont last forever unless its a Archival drive or something.

x BlueRobot · Feb 20, 2024

very_452001 said:
- MemTest86 is for RAM?

- SeaTools Bootable is for SSD? Can you recommend a tool for Brand PNY?

- Furmark is for Graphics?

- Prime95 is for CPU?

Yes and I'm not sure, you'll have to check their support page.

very_452001 said:
The tools above are 64-bit or 32-bit?

They should be all 64-bit but again, check the latest version and what architecture it supports.

very_452001 said:
Any tools for the Motherboard or the Bios POST test is sufficient for the motherboard?

No and does POST even exist with UEFI?

very_452001 said:
You mean I can put all those tools on a single USB stick and run them individually?

No, you'll have to create a bootable USB for each individual tool.

very_452001 said:
How many hours in total will I be looking at to run all those tools/tests above?

I don't know, that is a very subjective question and will depend on your own hardware configuration and which test(s) you run.

very_452001 · Feb 22, 2024

x BlueRobot said:
No, you'll have to create a bootable USB for each individual tool.

Does the usb stick drive has to be in NTFS format for it to be bootable with these diagnostic tools on it? Will ExFat file format be okay and be bootable with such tools?

I have UEFI bios and not sure if secure boot is enabled or not.