Just upgraded this am to 11 pro on a PC which wont pass for 3 things, UEFI, CPU and TPM

sdowney717 · Jan 29, 2022

Was very easy and quick. I downloaded win11 install using media creation tool, mounted by clicking ISO file.
Copied all files to folder on desktop.
In sources folder, deleted appraiserres.dll

Ran the setup, told it NOT to check for updates.
It is all working so far.

Found the method in this video

CornishRattler · Jan 29, 2022

Well done, welcome to the forums

sdowney717 · Jan 29, 2022

Also no slowdown in the PC that I can see.

sdowney717 · Jan 29, 2022

scrolled down system snap

The-Hive · Jan 29, 2022

I think these types of threads have been posted so many times

sdowney717 · Jan 29, 2022

The-Hive said:
I think these types of threads have been posted so many times

And they are mostly unusable, one I was viewing had over 600 posts, could not understand what they had done at all.
I made sure my thread told people it works for UEFI, secure boot, TMP, CPU not compatible with exact instructions. Sorry but I just had to share how I did it!

The-Hive · Jan 29, 2022

That's fine, I see your point about other threads they do get side-tracked to other things, then a few posts of squabbling :) so you don't what is going on. There are several guides of how to upgrade incompatible machines on the forum and so many people have done it or know how to

WXC · Jan 29, 2022

Hello, @sdowney717.

Welcome to ElevenForum.

Thank you for posting the video. And good luck with Win 11.

spapakons · Feb 3, 2022

Hello! There is no need to copy all files, if you run Setup they are copied anyway in the hidden folder C:\$Windows.~BT. All you have to do is to delete the file C:\$Windows.~BT\sources\appraiserres.dll before proceeding with the upgrade. Set to show hidden files to see the folder.

sdowney717 · Feb 3, 2022

spapakons said:
Hello! There is no need to copy all files, if you run Setup they are copied anyway in the hidden folder C:\$Windows.~BT. All you have to do is to delete the file C:\$Windows.~BT\sources\appraiserres.dll before proceeding with the upgrade. Set to show hidden files to see the folder.

I was wondering why the video says to copy the folder to the desktop?
Is doing that less geeky as otherwise you need that file deleted in the hidden folder?

So you cannot mount the iso, delete the appraisers.dll file, then install direct from the mounted iso? As they are copied to a hidden folder?

spapakons · Feb 3, 2022

The mounted ISO is treated like a DVD (read-only), so you cannot change that directly. That's why the video suggests to copy all files to a folder. But we are better than that

we delete the file directly from the setup cache (the C:\$Windows.~BT\sources folder). I have done it many times, always worked.

sdowney717 · Feb 3, 2022

spapakons said:
The mounted ISO is treated like a DVD (read-only), so you cannot change that directly. That's why the video suggests to copy all files to a folder. But we are better than that we delete the file directly from the setup cache (the C:\$Windows.~BT\sources folder). I have done it many times, always worked.

I see, so when does the hidden folder get created?
After you hit setup?
So when the setup screen appears, go to the hidden folder to delete that dll?

CornishRattler · Feb 3, 2022

sdowney717 said:
I see, so when does the hidden folder get created?
After you hit setup?
So when the setup screen appears, go to the hidden folder to delete that dll?

Yes

spapakons · Feb 3, 2022

When you hit setup you see a window with a progress counter. When it reaches 100% it shows the Setup window, Before doing anything else, delete the file. To avoid Windows Update messing with your drivers, click on the text "Change how..." to reveal a selection and then select No, do not use Windows Update during installation. You can then proceed.

sdowney717 · Feb 3, 2022

I really get now why the video suggest copying the iso to the desktop. It is going to be simpler for non computery people to accomplish.
I know lots of people who just are not very good with computers and doing anything unusual is a big step, maybe a step too far for them.
Easy enough though for computer OS knowledgeable people

Yes, you must not select update setup files as it will download the dll file and prevent the upgrade

spapakons · Feb 3, 2022

It might not download the file, but it might screw your drivers and produce a BSOD, why risk it? "If it works, don't fix it", as wise people say.

sdowney717 · Feb 3, 2022

spapakons said:
It might not download the file, but it might screw your drivers and produce a BSOD, why risk it? "If it works, don't fix it", as wise people say.

What is that in reference to?
I installed as the video said by copying the mounted iso onto the desktop, and nothing got wrecked.
In the setup dialog, I told it not to update the files, I tried first saying update the files and it restores the appraires.dll file and the upgrade fails.
And there is alway windows update after an install for new 'improved' files.

spapakons · Feb 3, 2022

For relatively new computer Windows Update can find drivers or just leave those already installed. For older systems it might not always find all drivers and get stuck. Or it might install a driver that is not 100% appropriate for the device and produce a BSOD. I would rather not use Windows Update during installation, even for new systems. You can update all drivers afterwards.

SuperMario64 · Feb 3, 2022

You got this running a computer running on traditional BIOS? I didn't think Windows 11 would run on that.

sdowney717 · Feb 3, 2022

SuperMario64 said:
You got this running a computer running on traditional BIOS? I didn't think Windows 11 would run on that.

YES, legacy bios, no UEFI, PC is working fine. No TPM either. CPU not supported, it is an AMD B95.
It exhibits no change in speed or anything compared to when it ran win10
Very stable, been perfect. I did have to install the win11 nvidia driver as when walking from sleep it had a small issue, sound not working over HDMI. But ever since the driver upgrade, been perfect.

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