Question About Utilizing Either Proxmox Or XCP-NG Virtualization Software

Davy49 · Nov 24, 2023

I was just wondering if anyone in here has ever used either one of these virtualization software clients: (1) Proxmox - Powerful open-source server solutions or (2) XCP-ng - XenServer Based, Community Powered they both appear to be free as well as open source. Unfortunately I sometimes just downright get the urge to tryout something that's new to me and different. I did see that at least with one of these choices that this application is recommended to utilize on a usb drive: balenaEtcher - Flash OS images to SD cards & USB drives, thanks in advance for all information that might be provided to me.

POLYSIUS · Nov 24, 2023

Are you familiar with Linux? If not, it's a big step. Meanwhile I have 2 Servers running PROXMOX and 1 running ESXi.
PROXMOX is powerfull and once you are used to it, you will like it. It's easy to install, but difficult to configure.
So I had to re-install it several times, till I found the right config for me.
I suggest you to watch all YouTube videos you can find and start. Try this and that and sooner or later you manage it.
With the right hardware you can run 10 VMs parallel without any problem.
Good luck!

Davy49 · Nov 24, 2023

POLYSIUS said:
Are you familiar with Linux? If not, it's a big step. Meanwhile I have 2 Servers running PROXMOX and 1 running ESXi.
PROXMOX is powerfull and once you are used to it, you will like it. It's easy to install, but difficult to configure.
So I had to re-install it several times, till I found the right config for me.
I suggest you to watch all YouTube videos you can find and start. Try this and that and sooner or later you manage it.
With the right hardware you can run 10 VMs parallel without any problem.
Good luck!

POLYSIUS,
Thanks so much for your response, the only thing that I'm actually wanting to do is utilize a virtual machine, from reading your comment this sounds like a fairly difficult method of doing this. I'm thinking that I should have done a lot more research about creating virtual machines before waiting until this late stage in my life.

POLYSIUS · Nov 24, 2023

Take this to learn VMs

https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-player.html

cereberus · Nov 26, 2023

Davy49 said:
POLYSIUS,
Thanks so much for your response, the only thing that I'm actually wanting to do is utilize a virtual machine, from reading your comment this sounds like a fairly difficult method of doing this. I'm thinking that I should have done a lot more research about creating virtual machines before waiting until this late stage in my life.

If you are using Pro, it has great vm software built in (Hyper-V). There are some excellent tutorials on sister site www.tenforums.com showing you how to use it.

Davy49 · Nov 27, 2023

cereberus said:
If you are using Pro, it has great vm software built in (Hyper-V). There are some excellent tutorials on sister site www.tenforums.com showing you how to use it.

cereberus,
Yes I'm currently using the following: Windows 11 Pro - 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor - Version 23H2 - O.S. Build 22635.2771

Almighty1 · Nov 29, 2023

While on the subject of VM's, isn't Hyper-V considered a certain type of VM and there was a second type of VM.

cereberus · Nov 29, 2023

Almighty1 said:
While on the subject of VM's, isn't Hyper-V considered a certain type of VM and there was a second type of VM.

There are two types
Type 1 - Hyper-V
Type 2 - Vmware, Virtualbox

Type 1 are generally more efficient as they share host hardware resources. The hypervisor is built in and runs under windows.

Type 2 are more flexible but the vm software runs on top of windows. Hardware is emulated.

Many articles on web showing pros and cons of each type.

For Windows 10/11 guests (except Home Guests), Hyper-V is far superior to Vmware or VB in performance.

Davy49 · Nov 29, 2023

cereberus said:
There are two types
Type 1 - Hyper-V
Type 2 - Vmware, Virtualbox

Type 1 are generally more efficient as they share host hardware resources. The hypervisor is built in and runs under windows.

Type 2 are more flexible but the vm software runs on top of windows. Hardware is emulated.

Many articles on web showing pros and cons of each type.

For Windows 10/11 guests (except Home Guests), Hyper-V is far superior to Vmware or VB in performance.

cereberus,
So great to be able to receive information from someone such as you that's knowledgeable about things like this and who knows what else.

Almighty1 · Nov 30, 2023

cereberus said:
There are two types
Type 1 - Hyper-V
Type 2 - Vmware, Virtualbox

Type 1 are generally more efficient as they share host hardware resources. The hypervisor is built in and runs under windows.

Type 2 are more flexible but the vm software runs on top of windows. Hardware is emulated.

Many articles on web showing pros and cons of each type.

For Windows 10/11 guests (except Home Guests), Hyper-V is far superior to Vmware or VB in performance.

Thanks as I forgot who mentioned it originally many years ago on this forum. So am I correct that anything other than Hyper-V in general would be type 2 including the ones in the topic of this post?