Are Antivirus Rescue Drives Obsolete?


BulldogX

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For many years I've had a (Kaspersky) antivirus rescue utility on a USB flash drive. The idea is that you have something you can boot to that will (hopefully) remove malware when the malware has made your computer unbootable.

I have never needed to use it, fortunately, but just for the heck of it I decided to boot my computer from the flash drive to see what it does. Good idea that, since I discovered that the Kaspersky AV rescue utility doesn't work on my new computer. (Kaspersky knows about it, and won't do anything about it 'cause it's a free utility. But this is not about Kaspersky.)

Looking around for a replacement I realized that there are very few of these remaining. Most of the big names in antivirus software stopped updating the rescue drives. Thus my question:

Are antivirus rescue drives obsolete?

TBH, if my computer was hit by malware, I would probably restore a backup rather than try to rescue it. So maybe AV rescue drives really are obsolete.
 
Windows Build/Version
W11 Pro 22621.2715

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 8960
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-13700K Dell OEM
    Motherboard
    Dell OEM
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800 MHz (Crucial)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER Dell OEM
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell P2719H
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe M.2 PCI SSD
    PSU
    750 watts Dell OEM
    Case
    Dell OEM
    Cooling
    Tower air cooler Dell OEM
    Keyboard
    Logitech K360
    Mouse
    Logitech M330
    Internet Speed
    300 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender
mse ( aka defender offline ) works in my win7 pe

wdo-full1.jpg

eset runs off usb stick when booted into win10/11 pe. Needs pe with 32 bit support and a bit of pescratch space to download definitions about 300mb.

plonk it on the usb stick and it will download the latest defintions when run

eset-online-scanner.jpg

 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3155 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
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    300/300
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    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724
In most cases, Anti-virus rescue disks/drives can be put to other uses like fault finding/fixing, so I doubt they would ever be labelled obsolete.

As already noted, restoring from backup is often the best solution.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    G-Skill RipjawsV F4-3600C18 (16GB x 2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VE278 (x 2)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256GB
    Samsung 970 Pro NVMe 512GB (x 2)
    ST10000VN0004 10TB (x 2)
    ST10000VN0008 10TB (x 2)
    ST4000VN000 4TB (x 2)
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 400R
    Cooling
    AMD Wraith Prism (Stock)
    Keyboard
    Logitech G213
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps down / 40Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox - Chrome - Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender - Clamwin
Haven't used an offline scanner in years for anyone else. It's an automatic clean install as it's the only way of me guaranteeing they are 100% clean with all the zero day crap out in the wild these days. I've never been infected myself but if I ever was I'd be back in business in 15 minutes. That's the beauty of having a regular backup routine.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3155
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Win10 custom pe


eset-winpe.jpg


2023-12-11_001837-customscan.jpg



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It downloads the latest definitions here

2023-12-11_002149.jpg
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
Thanks for everyone's ideas. I have decided to forgo an AV rescue disk and rely instead on my backups.

Cybersecurity is a particular interest of mine, and I learned that a computer that has been compromised by malware can no longer be trusted, even if you are able to recover from the attack.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 8960
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-13700K Dell OEM
    Motherboard
    Dell OEM
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800 MHz (Crucial)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER Dell OEM
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell P2719H
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe M.2 PCI SSD
    PSU
    750 watts Dell OEM
    Case
    Dell OEM
    Cooling
    Tower air cooler Dell OEM
    Keyboard
    Logitech K360
    Mouse
    Logitech M330
    Internet Speed
    300 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender
Thanks for everyone's ideas. I have decided to forgo an AV rescue disk and rely instead on my backups.

Cybersecurity is a particular interest of mine, and I learned that a computer that has been compromised by malware can no longer be trusted, even if you are able to recover from the attack.
The only way to regain trust in computer is to clean reload OS.
Don't trust anything else and you'll be much safer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI / MS-7B29
    CPU
    Intel i3 8100 @3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    H310M PRO-VDH (MS-7B29)
    Memory
    1 x 16GB DDR4 @2400 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GT 1030 2GB SDDR4
    Sound Card
    Realtek VEN_10EC&DEV_0887 / NVIDIA VEN_10DE&DEV_0081
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer V226HQL
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 500 GB Crucial MX500 / HDD 1 TB TOSHIBA DT01ACA100
    PSU
    ATX, details unknown
    Case
    Everest 551B
    Cooling
    details unknown
    Keyboard
    Mechanical Gaming Hydra R7 - Rampage
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Internet Speed
    Down: 28Mbps / Up: 19Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender Antivirus
    Other Info
    Bluetooth: TP Link 5.0 Nano USB adapter UB500
    WLAN: D-Link 150 Pico USB adapter, N standard
    Web camera: Logitech C270 HD 720p @30fps
    Microphone: Trust MICO, model 23790

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