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larc919

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I'm thinking of trying a VPN since I want to access some European websites that I otherwise can't from the US. Is Surfshark any good? I've heard some pretty good things about it and the price is reasonable. Better options?
 

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    Win10 Pro x64 & 11 Pro
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    Intel Core i7-11700
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    ASUS ROG Strix Z590 Gaming
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    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB
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    Corsair RM850x
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    Antec P100
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    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 with Noctua NF-P12 Redux & 120mm Case Fan x3
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    Logitech K740
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    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    372 Mb down/12Mb up
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    Firefox & Edge
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    Windows Defender & Free MBAM
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Surfshark is topnotch, but I prefer NordVPN. IMO, it's the best available VPN - and it's reasonably priced.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10, W11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    2 HP Desktops, 1 Dell Desktop, 2 Dell XPS Laptops, 1 HP Laptop
Surfshark is topnotch, but I prefer NordVPN. IMO, it's the best available VPN - and it's reasonably priced.
I think @allan's right, and this table supports his claim.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
    Case
    Lenovo SFF
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome, sometimes Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
  • Operating System
    11 Pro 23H2 22631.3527
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
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    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
    Case
    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together
I personally buy Kaspersky Premium for $20 a year, I get Antivirus/Firewall and VPS software included, I don’t use the included Password Manager software.
It works really well.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Full Tower
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Thanks for the suggestions, allan, Wizewiz & antspants. NordVPN is definitely something I'd be looking at if this was more serious, but it's just for fun. I can get Surfshark for nearly $33 less for 2 years. As for Kaspersky, afraid I'm a bit wary about dealing with a Russian company.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10 Pro x64 & 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix Z590 Gaming
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32UN650 32" 4k
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz (175% scaling)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 250GB; WD Gold (WD1005FBYZ) 1TB; WD Black (WD1003FZEX) 1TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P100
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 with Noctua NF-P12 Redux & 120mm Case Fan x3
    Keyboard
    Logitech K740
    Mouse
    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    372 Mb down/12Mb up
    Browser
    Firefox & Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Free MBAM
    Other Info
    Main PC
Thanks for the suggestions, allan, Wizewiz & antspants. NordVPN is definitely something I'd be looking at if this was more serious, but it's just for fun. I can get Surfshark for nearly $33 less for 2 years. As for Kaspersky, afraid I'm a bit wary about dealing with a Russian company.


@antspants

Not sure I would recommend kaspersky at all for anything these days -- in any case (another issue though) IMO -- and I'm by no means alone in this view -- for home (not corporate / SME users) Windows defender is as good as it gets and is updated regularly. Don't rely on any magazine / internet "comparative tests" -- as those are inevitably out of date -- a new threat could occur at any time. Fortunately serious hackers have more lucrative targets than typical home computers to target.

@larc919

Nordvpn is great -- one feature often not mentioned for VPN's is the Tunnelling feature -- e.g you can have VPN ignore specific apps e.g accessing your local LAN, office apps e.g email etc. Another good one is that nordvpn works on Android phones so when wanting to access world wide radio stations (the FTA kind) via a brilliant free Android App (Radiogarden) radio stations aren't blocked

Note in the UK Radiogarden is blocked for accessing FTA overseas Radio stations -- even though the normal Websites are available. (Shades of N.Korea there ??? -- not sure what blocking content of freely available non UK classical music stations etc does to corrupt young morals -- but who knows).Much nicer to use a dedicated radio app on a phone with blue tooth head phones rather than mess about with zillions of web sites festooned with ads and the like.

I have to use it to get local Iceland news too -- While in the UK I want to know about volcanoes back home -- not sure why FTA Iceland news should be blocked as well -- it's just plain BONKERS. The stuff is FTA,no copyright etc etc -- still it's the UK's problem -- VPN though is very fast, connects to almost any server anywhere --they have loads and it runs on Windows, Linux, Android, probably Iphone and Apple computers too, and is a synch to install and use. Belgian, USA, German, French and Dutch servers particularly fast too for European users - but they have servers worldwide as well - probably just as fast.

For the BBC you'll have to use the BBC sounds app as they've changed the radio streams from the std format used by tunein etc. Works OK though.

Cheers
jimbo
 
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    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
but it's just for fun.
If you only want to use it on one device, Proton, which is open source, offer a free unlimited plan...

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9510
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz (16 CPUs
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti
    Hard Drives
    512GB Solid State Drive
    Browser
    Chrome
I ran NORDVPN for 3 yrs.. then I went with HotSpotShield for 3 yrs, and just now started this year on a 3-yr PIA plan, all of which were based on the best deal available. PIA is US-based, the others are not. Never has a problem with any of them.
They all support tunneling, but none support IPV6.
PIA uses it's own filtered DNS servers (or you can bypass). I run my own Pihole DNS server locally for other devices on my network.

I went with PIA based on price and unlimited # of connections.. the other 2 (IIRC) are limited to 6 devices.
I did plenty of research before choosing each time.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Powerspec
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI (MS-7D25)
    Memory
    G.Skill DDR5-5600 / PC5-44800 DDR5 SDRAM UDIMM
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N407TWF3OC-12GD)
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell - various (3)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD/HDD/NVME
    PSU
    850 Watt 80+ Gold Modular
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205 Mesh
    Cooling
    Coolermaster MASTERLIQUID ML240L V2 RGB
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys S
    Mouse
    MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    600 mbps
    Browser
    various (Opera, Vivaldi, Edge, Brave, Chrome)
    Antivirus
    anitmalwarebytes; superantispyware; defender
I ran NORDVPN for 3 yrs.. then I went with HotSpotShield for 3 yrs, and just now started this year on a 3-yr PIA plan, all of which were based on the best deal available. PIA is US-based, the others are not. Never has a problem with any of them.
They all support tunneling, but none support IPV6.
PIA uses it's own filtered DNS servers (or you can bypass). I run my own Pihole DNS server locally for other devices on my network.

I went with PIA based on price and unlimited # of connections.. the other 2 (IIRC) are limited to 6 devices.
I did plenty of research before choosing each time.
Works on my NAS machine -- no IPV4 here. !!!

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cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Powerspec
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI (MS-7D25)
    Memory
    G.Skill DDR5-5600 / PC5-44800 DDR5 SDRAM UDIMM
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N407TWF3OC-12GD)
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell - various (3)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD/HDD/NVME
    PSU
    850 Watt 80+ Gold Modular
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205 Mesh
    Cooling
    Coolermaster MASTERLIQUID ML240L V2 RGB
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys S
    Mouse
    MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    600 mbps
    Browser
    various (Opera, Vivaldi, Edge, Brave, Chrome)
    Antivirus
    anitmalwarebytes; superantispyware; defender
Is that Nord? They've probably added it since I last used it.. 3.5 yrs ago.
Plus, ain't that a 'nix NAS box?
It's a NAS 'nix box !! but Nordvpn works just fine on it --plus also on Windows etc with IPV6.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Proton VPN gives my computer special powers, and it's the fastest VPN I've ever used in fifteen years. The Romulans never see me coming, then, BAM it's all over!:giggle:
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 1760 UA92
    CPU
    12th Gen i5-12400
    Memory
    16gb Crucial 3200MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 1650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Amazon Omni Fire tv 4K 55"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Kingston NVME M.2 1tb
    Samsung 850 1tb sata
    PSU
    300 Watts
    Cooling
    1 Internal Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitech
    Internet Speed
    800Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Avast
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    10th Gen i-7, 4-core 8-threads, turbo to 3.9GHz
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus
    Hard Drives
    500gb M.2
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
If you only want to use it on one device, Proton, which is open source, offer a free unlimited plan...
Thanks very much for the info, trevo. That would at least tell me if I want to get more involved.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win10 Pro x64 & 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix Z590 Gaming
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32UN650 32" 4k
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz (175% scaling)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 250GB; WD Gold (WD1005FBYZ) 1TB; WD Black (WD1003FZEX) 1TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P100
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 with Noctua NF-P12 Redux & 120mm Case Fan x3
    Keyboard
    Logitech K740
    Mouse
    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    372 Mb down/12Mb up
    Browser
    Firefox & Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Free MBAM
    Other Info
    Main PC
Just to add something to the mix... I use MalwareBytes Privacy for my non work VPN and it seems to work well. If I recall correctly, it is only about $40 CDN. I can get to any region I want with no issues, but I don't know if I would use to "hide". I'm not sure how that works, or if it works all right.

For work, we use a Cisco VPN. I don't suggest that one, because it is rather expensive.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite Wifi
    Memory
    32 GB GSkill Trident Neo with pretty LED lights
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
I'm thinking of trying a VPN since I want to access some European websites that I otherwise can't from the US. Is Surfshark any good? I've heard some pretty good things about it and the price is reasonable. Better options?
I recommend one of two - Proton VPN and Norton VPN. They both work with Microsoft PC Manager and this site ; no others do so far.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    H-P
    CPU
    Pentium-G
    Memory
    8 GB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    Optiplex 9020 SFF
    Memory
    32 GB
WindScribe free.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 HomeSingle
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Casper
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbpz
    Browser
    Vivaldi Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Proton VPN free no longer lets you choose your IP location, just gives you what it says is fastest. You'd have to go paid for that now

A Guy
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Home x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    INTEL Core i5-11400
    Motherboard
    ASUS PRIME H570-PLUS
    Memory
    KINGSTON HyperX Fury Black DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz, CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32MA68HY 32" IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 250GB 970 EVO Plus NVMe, M.2 SSD, Crucial 250GB MX500, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache
    PSU
    CORSAIR RM550x 80 PLUS Gold 550W
    Case
    ANTEC P10 FLUX
    Cooling
    be quiet! Pure Rock 2, 5 x 120 mm Case Fans
    Internet Speed
    480 + Mbps Up/ 12+ Mbps Down
    Browser
    Vivaldi Snapshot
    Antivirus
    Avast
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-750
    Motherboard
    ASUS P7P55D
    Memory
    Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600MHz CL8
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 240 N240GT-MD1G/D5 1 GB DDR5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32MA68HY 32" IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1040
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Electronics 840 EVO 120GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache
    PSU
    Antec TruePower New TP-550 550W
    Case
    Antec 300
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212+, 4 Noctua NF-P12 120mm, 1 Noctua NF-P14 FLX
    Internet Speed
    480+ Mbps Down/12+Mbps Up
    Browser
    Vivaldi Snapshot
    Antivirus
    Avast
Tried Proton free VPN. It showed me the usefulness of a VPN, but was too limiting. Finally cancelled that and signed up with Surfshark for 2 years of their Starter plan at only $59.75 total. I'm well satisfied with it so far.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10 Pro x64 & 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-11700
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Strix Z590 Gaming
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3050
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32UN650 32" 4k
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz (175% scaling)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe 250GB; WD Gold (WD1005FBYZ) 1TB; WD Black (WD1003FZEX) 1TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Antec P100
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 with Noctua NF-P12 Redux & 120mm Case Fan x3
    Keyboard
    Logitech K740
    Mouse
    Logitech M310
    Internet Speed
    372 Mb down/12Mb up
    Browser
    Firefox & Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Free MBAM
    Other Info
    Main PC

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