W11 Requirements

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Running the health check app on on laptop says that my machine meets all the requirements, including secure boot and TPM2.0, other than the processor but even this exceeds the minimum speed requirement. It is an Intel Core i5-6200U. Earlier suffixed U intel processors are supported back to i5-1345U and I am wondering if this is just that MS have not tested my particular processor. Or is the only test required run by the PC Health app?

Core i5-6200U is a 6th Generation CPU and the minimum I've seen on Microsoft's Intel CPU list for the i5 is an 8th Generation.

Thanks but the one I quoted is on the list: i5-1345U I take it that is a 1st Generation? But maybe I am missing something in the logic of the numbering.

Perhaps Intel made a change in their numbering and that's a 13th Generation? My response was only for the installed CPU. Whether a later version will work with the motherboard and RAM would be listed with the board's specs as to what it can accept. I have a machine with an Intel Core i7-4770 and it was reported as a 4th Generation.

kevvyb said:

Thanks but the one I quoted is on the list: i5-1345U I take it that is a 1st Generation? But maybe I am missing something in the logic of the numbering.

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It's just Intel's current way of referring to the generations of processors above the 9th generation. Read that as i5-1345U.

kevvyb said:

Thanks but the one I quoted is on the list: i5-1345U I take it that is a 1st Generation?

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No, it's 13th gen....

Thanks

kevvyb said:

maybe I am missing something in the logic of the numbering.

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The logic of the numbering has changed a few times over the years. Intel's page explaining the numbering has also changed over the years, now only explaining the latest generation.


I trawled back through the Internet Archive to get the pictures I've used below from their older versions of that page, here:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https...t/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html

There never was a '1st generation', Intel now call that the 'Previous Generation'. They had a 3 digit SKU number, such as my System Two's i5 M 520.



From 2nd gen up to 9th gen they had a 4 digit number, the first digit being the generation and the other three the SKU.



From 10th gen on, the first two digits are the generation, with a two digit SKU.



The 14th gen now seems to have a three digit SKU again.

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Mostly known as ToManyLakes.

Thanks for this. At some point I think when I upgrade my PC to 11 I may risk upgrading laptop as well using workarounds.

kevvyb said:

Thanks for this. At some point I think when I upgrade my PC to 11 I may risk upgrading laptop as well using workarounds.

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As you can tell from @Bree 's post... there is no logical method to the way they number processors.

kevvyb said:

At some point I think when I upgrade my PC to 11 I may risk upgrading laptop as well using workarounds.

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As a test to see what may happen to an unsupported device running Windows 11 my System Two, a Legacy Bios laptop with a 1st gen i5, has been running Windows 11 since version 21H2 was first released in October 2021. So far it has got all the same updates as any supported device, with the exception of not being offered Feature Updates to the next version. For those a manual update and a workaround was used. It's now running the latest build of 23H2.

kevvyb said:

Thanks for this. At some point I think when I upgrade my PC to 11 I may risk upgrading laptop as well using workarounds.

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I've been running 11 on a similar laptop for quite a while. (All requirements are met, except for a Gen6 CPU). The only upgrade from stock was swapping in a SATA SSD to replace its 1TB spinner, and (more recently) taking it to 20GB of RAM. (Factory was 6GB: 4 soldered plus a 2GB SODIMM.)

It runs, albeit slowly. Probably no more slowly than with Windows 10, its factory supplied OS. (It's a 2 core I3.) It also has, so far, received all Windows 11 updates. Some Microsoft employees hinted darkly in the past that updates might not be offered to systems with unsupported hardware, but that hasn't happened yet.

You should be able to upgrade 10 to 11 by adding a simple Registry key. I followed a similar procedure, although it may not have been exactly this one. (The installer just informed me that I was installing on unsupported hardware, and asked if I wished to continue. Maybe it was because my Windows 10 version was Home.)

bobkn said:

Some Microsoft employees hinted darkly in the past that updates might no be offered to systems with unsupported hardware, but that hasn't happened yet.

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I believe that has happened (yet) with feature updates. When I was running a non-compliant, I had to get the feature updates manually. That's no big deal, and not hard, but my point is that they weren't offered by WUpdate.

Wisewiz said:

I believe that has happened (yet) with feature updates. When I was running a non-compliant, I had to get the feature updates manually. That's no big deal, and not hard, but my point is that they weren't offered by WUpdate.

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I have received the updates via WU. I'm not sure that I have gotten all updates to some of the apps (like Paint and Notepad).

Whether it matters that we are in different countries, I haven't the faintest idea.

I dunno, either. I had to move from 22H2 to 23H2 manually, and I had to use the Enablement Package manually to get the latest versions.

Wisewiz said:

I dunno, either. I had to move from 22H2 to 23H2 manually, and I had to use the Enablement Package manually to get the latest versions.

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I may have manually done a 22631 update prior to receiving 22631.3007.

Visiting uupdump.net is something I do far too often.

bobkn said:

Visiting uupdump.net is something I do far too often.

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You have both my understanding and my sympathies. They're a great resource, but I loathe having to use them.

Wisewiz said:

You have both my understanding and my sympathies. They're a great resource, but I loathe having to use them.

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I kinda like uupdump. Cool service, and free.

But messing around with RP or beta releases is something I probably shouldn't do. (I avoid dev and canary builds, though.)

I was on my 2013 HP Envy 17 TS yesterday and got a security update when I checked in Windows Update. I think it may be wise to see what happens next Patch Tuesday, whether the unsupported machines keep going or start failing.