W11 VM on Old MBR only computer - Working properly with sec boot and TPM emulator


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Hi folks

Don't bother yourself too much with hardware requirements for running W11 espeacially a few years yet before W10 becomes dead. With a VM you can run W11 even on quite dated hardware.

on KVM/QEMU on an old Laptop -- SONY VAIO (doesn't even have USB3 support, only USB2 ) MBR Bios only and Intel core i5 computer (absolutely no UEFI or TPM) you can still get W11 to work properly with UEFI, secure boot and TPM V2 by running as a VM.

1) For TPM install package swtpm -- this installs the IBM emulator which works fine -- no need to configure - the VM will do that automatically, Install on the HOST system of course !!

2) for Secure boot and UEFI install package OVMF again on the HOST system. !!

3) now simply create your VM with boot options UEFI/secure boot and install

tpm.png

(Note on Arch Linux and possibly some other distros to get the libvirt (KVM/QEMU) system working properly you might also have to install package dmidecode.).

Nice to get an old Laptop into service again -- quite fast too -- this laptop had trouble even installing W10 latest versions !! but no prob running W11 as a VM.

Note - on the Windows 11 VM to check the TPM simply press Windows key + R (run) and enter tpm.msc



Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
How old is 'old'?
I'm on i7-4800, runs fine for its age but I'm considering to disable HyperThreading after CentOS recommendation during install.

The VM is expected to run further, though I'm not sure if any real Win11 validation tools apply to a VM.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC
    CPU
    i3 8109U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA
    CPU
    Intel i7 4800MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
How old is 'old'?
I'm on i7-4800, runs fine for its age but I'm considering to disable HyperThreading after CentOS recommendation during install.

The VM is expected to run further, though I'm not sure if any real Win11 validation tools apply to a VM.
Computer from 2015 so almost 7 years old.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Thanks.
Yep, I'm on one of those as well.
Confirmed that it can handle the load, daily usage.

EDIT: it has 32gb ddr3, I'm not gonna trash it out just because it fails W11 specs.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC
    CPU
    i3 8109U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA
    CPU
    Intel i7 4800MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
W11 VM's run very well on non-compatible hardware using Hyper-V as well. On the left are the Whynot W11 results for aW11 Pro VM, and on the right for the host.
 

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Insider Preview (VM on Hyper-V), Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brew
    CPU
    i7-13700 Passmark rating = 38841
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B760M
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27" on KVM switch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 120 GB SSD system dr., 1TB Gigabyte M.2 MVNe data and 1 TB M.2 PCie @ 20 Gb/s virtual drive storage, 2 TB WD HDD
    PSU
    Thermatake 500w
    Case
    MATX Desktop
    Cooling
    fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230 +/- down, 40 +/- up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, Edge On insider Preview
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    3'rd system is a Minis Forum NAB6. Intel Core i7-12650H CPU, 10 Cores, 16 Threads. 32 GB DDR4 Memory. 500 GB NVMe PCle, 500GB SSD Passmark rating = 23683
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 & W11 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Elite Mini HX90
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9, 5900 - 8 cores, 16 threads. Passmark rating = 345888
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    System
    Sound Card
    System
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus 27 inch + Samsung 27" on KVM
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SPCC 120 GB SSD, 1TB and 2TB WD Sata III
    Case
    Mini
    Cooling
    fans
    Mouse
    Logitech on KVM
    Keyboard
    Logitech on KVM
    Internet Speed
    230, 40 up
    Browser
    Usually DuckDuckGo, occasionally Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows
    Other Info
    Plex Server is Minis Forum UM450. AMD Ryzen5 4500U, 6 Cores, 6 Threads. Passmark Rating = 11039. Running W11 Pro. Also have 2 seldom used laptops: HP Pavilion 11M-AD113DX Laptop (W11 Capable), W10 Home, Dell Inspiron 13-5368 Laptop, W10 Home + Apple mini, circa 2012

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