What Has Priority?


Pnokio

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What Has Priority?
Latest version installed versus an older Portable version of the same program?
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What Has Priority?
Latest Portable version versus an older version of the same program?
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The program I am asking about is Attribute Changer which has an entry in the 'Context Menu'

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    When I find it.
Last week I did a test (for your other topic) and noticed that the portable version has no context menu at all.
I did that test again and even after a restart, no entries in the context menu are there.

So the context menu you are seeing must be from the installed version.

I would never to use a portable version of a program, having installed the same program as well. It is likely that something may conflict. Only for test purposes, on Virtual machines, I would trie that (as I have done now).
 

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And it wouldn’t make sense for a portable version to be adding context menu entries. The whole point of portable versions are not to be there when you close them.
 

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Why have you got an installed version and a portable version on the same device? Portable versions of any programs belong on a USB.
 

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idgat said:
Portable versions of any programs belong on a USB.
Click to expand...
That's not true at all!
Some programs only are available in a portable version and have certainly big value.
And other programs can be 'installed' as portable program, nobody forbids that.

A list of some of the portable programs that I have on my normal hard disk, well organized:
CoreTemp
CPU-Z Portable
FanControl
Flexible Renamer
HashMyFiles
MP3 DirectCut portable
OpenHardwareMonitor
RadioSure
RBTray 64 bit portable
Rufus
T-Clock
ThislsMyFile

I would not know why those programs would not be allowed to be stored somewhere on my system!
Then I would always be forced to insert an USB stick when I want to use such a program, why would I do that?

For instance: Radiosure only exists as portable program, is rather old but very effective for listening music all over the world.
I use it daily! I really would not know why to only have that on a USB stick...

I think you understood the meaning of 'portable' somewhat wrong.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
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    Build by vendor to my specs
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Kingston NV2 - 500 GB
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
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    Cooler Master Silencio S400
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    Cooler Master Hyper H412R
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
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    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
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    Firefox 115.7.0 ESR
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    F-secure via Internet provider
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    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11

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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
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    Realtek HD Audio
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    LG E2442
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    1920x1080
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    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
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    Lenovo SFF
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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    LogiTech M510 wireless
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    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
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    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
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    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
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    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
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    LogiTech M510 wireless
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
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    Malwarebytes Premium and MS Defender, beautiful together
The difference between the installed programs I use and the portable of those I have on USB Thumb drives is that the portables do not create icons, copy files to the drive, copy support files to the Windows folder and do not make Registry entries which Windows uses to know how to do its thing. Simply deleting the portable folder does not need an uninstall routine provided by installation of programs.
 

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    Win11 Pro RTM
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    Dell Vostro 3400
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    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
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    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
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    16GB
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    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
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    24" Dell
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    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
idgat said:
Portable versions of any programs belong on a USB
Click to expand...
I also disagree with that statement.
The appropriate storage location for any portable program depends on the user's needs.
I have a couple of dozen portable programs on each of my computers*** and three on each of my Windows InstallUSBs.
*** Within a protected C:\Tools folder.


All the best,
Denis
 

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    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
I have both installed version & portable Attribute Changer on my Win 7 computer. It has no internet connection, but is used frequently for music & video as it has a CD/DVD drive.
The installed version is older than the portable but the old version appears using the Context method.
More later.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 23H2 64-Bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    asus f515ja
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1035G1 CPU @ 1.00GHz 1.19 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X515JA (U3E1)
    Memory
    8.00GB HDD
    Graphics Card(s)
    Standard Monitor on Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HDA
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768 x 60
    Hard Drives
    1HDD 2 Partitions
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    38mbps
    Browser
    Chrome+FF
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes (Premium)
    Other Info
    When I find it.
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