Copilot eligibility keeps turning off

Wisewiz · Mar 1, 2024

This is a fully compliant 3155 Pro installation, but the BingChat key value IsUserEligible turns to 0 (zero) every time I reboot, and in order to get the taskbar icon option back (and thus Copilot available) in taskbar settings, I have to use a .reg file I made by exporting that key.

It works, but it's a kludge. I'd like to keep the danged key from changing that value every time I shut down or reboot. I'm sure Copilot will write me a batch file to accomplish that end, and tell me to put that in User\ ... \Programs\Startup, but that's a kludge, too.

What can I do in gpedit or in settings or in the registry to make that 1 value data for IsUserEligible STAY, and not revert to zero?

Extra credit for telling me why the danged thing won't stay the way it should be.

Dan

PS: When I get it, the icon is in the tray on the far right, not in the older next-to-Start position.

Winuser · Mar 1, 2024

Wisewiz said:
PS: When I get it, the icon is in the tray on the far right, not in the older next-to-Start position.

That's where MS moved it. I don't know why the setting won't stay set.

Wisewiz · Mar 1, 2024

Yeah, I knew that. I was just saying that about the position to let you know that I meet the requirements in every way, including the updated position, but it still isn't automatically available. I know it's one of MS's "rolling out" things, but this is ridiculous. My other office PC (Sys 2) has it and has the reg settings right, so it's always available, but for that machine, the icon is by default next to Start still, even though that machine is now on 3235 (the Preview). WTF??

antspants · Mar 1, 2024

It doesn’t seem right, but maybe you could create a task on boot to run the reg file? Not that you should have to.

Wisewiz · Mar 1, 2024

Got this from the ever-helpful Copilot:
I understand your frustration with the IsUserEligible value in the registry reverting to zero after each restart. Let’s explore some potential solutions to address this issue:

Permissions and Ownership:
- Ensure that you have the necessary permissions to modify the registry key.
- Right-click on the BingChat subkey containing the IsUserEligible value and select Permissions.
- Make sure your user account has Full Control permissions.
- Additionally, consider changing the Owner to NT Service\TrustedInstaller.
Startup Script:
- Create a batch script (.bat) that sets the IsUserEligible value to 1.
- Place the script in the Startup folder or use the Task Scheduler to run it at startup.
- Example script:
  @echo off
  reg add "HKCU\Software\BingChat" /v IsUserEligible /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
Registry Run Key (Advanced):
- Add an entry to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run registry key.
- Set the value to the path of your batch script.
Group Policy (gpedit.msc):
- Open the Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc).
- Navigate to User Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Logon.
- Enable the policy Run these programs at user logon and specify the path to your batch script.
Monitor Changes:
- Use tools like Process Monitor to track changes to the registry key during startup.
- Identify any processes that might be altering the value.
Check Eligibility:
- Confirm that your account meets the eligibility criteria for Bing Chat.
- Bing Chat may not be available for accounts younger than 13 1.

Remember to back up your registry before making any changes, and proceed with caution. If the issue persists, consider reaching out to Microsoft support for further assistance.

Oh, wow!

antspants · Mar 1, 2024

Wisewiz said:
Oh, wow!

Is that what you expected to get back from CoPilot???

Wisewiz · Mar 1, 2024

Yep. None of it worked /made sense. For instance: I have no idea how a MS account could be 131. That'e something like a qualifying age for access to adult stuff.

Bing Chat may not be available for accounts younger than 131

The others just plain did nothing. Am I surprised? Well, in words of a syllable: NO.

NormanF · Mar 1, 2024

Us seniors are children? The first time I've heard of it!

antspants · Mar 1, 2024

NormanF said:
Us seniors are children? The first time I've heard of it!

I’m a manchild. I admit that freely.

Wisewiz · Mar 2, 2024

Okay, here's another Copilot question about the same machine. If I switch the registry value IsUserEligible from 0 to 1, I get the taskbar settings option to toggle on or off the icon. But if I toggle that ON, the icon doesn't appear until I change the "Select the far corner of the taskbar to show the desktop" from checked to unchecked (if it was checked) or from unchecked to checked (if it was unchecked).

Now that's bizarre! Is this standard behavior, or is this machine just inhabited by gremlins?

zetrozky · Sep 4, 2024

Anyone have any idea how to fix this? Even restarting windows explorer seems to revert the keys for me

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

zetrozky said:
Anyone have any idea how to fix this? Even restarting windows explorer seems to revert the keys for me

Not sure how this could still be a problem. You should be able to find CoPilot in your Start menu ilisted in “All Apps”

Please do the following:

Please type “Winver” into search on your PC and open it. Please type the version and build that it reports.

Like this for example: Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.3374

Thank you

jimbo45 · Sep 4, 2024

Hi folks

Absolutely no probs with "Eligibility" etc and the co-pilot icon is in a decent place. Clicking on that I get the "Sign in screen" and the chat etc etc. Actually I think the copilot is improving really well now -- looks finally if Ms can do a decent A.I but I hope they don't kill it off by making it one of those wretched subscription things --at least for NON corporate / business users.

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 · Sep 4, 2024

Hi folks

@antspants

@Brink

Can't understand the problem.

Working perfectly for me currently -- just sign in and : --currently no subscriptions needed etc -- you need an Ms account (but that doesn't mean you have to login with an Ms account on Windows boot).

It's actually quite good -- give it a go.IMHO one of Ms's better offers in recent years in spite of the fact this type of stuff is really in early infancy.

I even got better suggestions on Airline tickets than by using some of the well known "Comparison sites" too.

For once Thumbs up to Ms.

Cheers
jimbo

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