Solved Drives, partition, folders query?

x BlueRobot · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
If I may suggest, I would get an inexpensive laptop to play around with and leave the main laptop alone.

It'll be even better to create a VM image and then mess around with that.

Alexey2912 · Oct 9, 2022

x BlueRobot said:
It'll be even better to create a VM image and then mess around with that.

You mean VMware image, apologize for the ignorance.
Thanks.

x BlueRobot · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser · Oct 9, 2022

x BlueRobot said:
It'll be even better to create a VM image and then mess around with that.

This is true but IMHO, VMs are not completely the same.

Alexey2912 · Oct 9, 2022

x BlueRobot said:
Yes.

Using this one....

https://www.vmware.com/uk/products/workstation-player/workstation-player-evaluation.html

Thanks.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
This is true but IMHO, VMs are not completely the same.

Well it is darn close. Close enough to be worthwhile.

Winuser · Oct 9, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
Well it is darn close. Close enough to be worthwhile.

Darn Close? Like I said, there are differences between running an OS and running an OS in a VM. The worthwhile part depends on what you're using the OS for.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
Darn Close? Like I said, there are differences between running an OS and running an OS in a VM. The worthwhile part depends on what you're using the OS for.

Have an example of when it's not worthwhile?

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
Do you have an example of where I said it wasn't worth while?

No but you just said it depends...so I assume you have an example where it is not worthwhile or at least an example where a VM would not work vs real hardware...

Winuser · Oct 9, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
Have an example of when it's not worthwhile?

Does all hardware work when the OS is running in a VM? What drivers are used when running in a VM? As I recall I had no sound in Windows 10 when I was running it in Hyper-V.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
Does all hardware work when the OS is running in a VM? What drivers are used when running in a VM? As I recall I had no sound in Windows 10 when I was running it in Hyper-V.

Depends on the VM and it's configuration...

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

...anyways...for experimenting with Windows, a VM is perfectly fine (even Hyper-V which may sometimes be limited to an extent). You can break the OS and recover within a few second.

We're way off topic now, so I'll leave it as this and move on...

Winuser · Oct 9, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
...anyways...for experimenting with Windows, a VM is perfectly fine (even Hyper-V which may sometimes be limited to an extent). You can break the OS and recover within a few second.

We're way off topic now, so I'll leave it as this and move on...

I still think it would be better for @Alexey2912 to experiment on a computer that isn't his main computer.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
I still think it would be better for @Alexey2912 to experiment on a computer that isn't his main computer.

It is more expensive than a VM and also takes up extra space on your desk. A VM is perfect for experimentation. Just delete the whole thing when you're done playing.

Winuser · Oct 9, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
It is more expensive than a VM and also takes up extra space on your desk. A VM is perfect for experimentation. Just delete the whole thing when you're done playing.

You're right, I'm wrong. It is better for @Alexey2912 to keep messing up his main computer.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
You're right, I'm wrong. It is better for @Alexey2912 to keep messing up his main computer.

How does a VM mess up your computer?

That is the whole point of a VM, to not mess up your main computer or to run multiple instances of various things at the same time in one single device when there is enough resources to share.

I sometimes run 6 VMs at the same time on my laptop and the host OS has never broken because of that.

Winuser · Oct 9, 2022

SlicEnDicE said:
How does a VM mess up your computer?

That is the whole point of a VM, to not mess up your main computer or to run multiple instances of various things at the same time in one single device when there is enough resources to share.

I sometimes run 6 VMs at the same time on my laptop and the host OS has never broken because of that.

Look up some of Alexey2912s post and tell me I'm wrong. Either way I'm done posting my opinions to you about the subject and won't responed to any comments from you on this subject.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 9, 2022

Winuser said:
Look up some of Alexey2912s post and tell me I'm wrong. Either way I'm done posting my opinions to you about the subject and won't responed to any comments from you on this subject.

What am I looking for in particular? I find hundreds of posts from that user? And all of them seem to be a bit all over the place...

Winuser · Oct 9, 2022

Alexey2912 is trying to learn his way around computers. He has made many mistakes and has had to start over. I feel that he would be better off using another computer to learn on and not risk losing his important programs and data files that are on his main computer. Yes, backups are fine but what if for some reason his images won't restore? And if he does use a VM for testing that doesn't mean that he can't make a mistake and have to start all over again.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 10, 2022

Winuser said:
And if he does use a VM for testing that doesn't mean that he can't make a mistake and have to start all over again.

That's what checkpoints are for. Takes literally 2s to restore to previous state. And you can't screw them up because they're differential changes to the VM storage, unless you go fiddle with the physical VM files on your host.

I use VMs all the time when I'm a bit uncertain what will happen if I do an unknown modification or tweak to a system or install some less known app.

I also always use VMs while developing and testing apps or whole systems of apps, to ensure a clean OS state.