Move HDD to new Computer ISSUES


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I have an OLD LAPTOP, HP Envy with Windows 10 on a Firecuda HDD. The computer is so old it is not compatible with Windows 11 so I bought another Laptop,
The NEW LAPTOP is an Acer Nitro AN517-54 with no drives.

I tried to transfer the HDD to the new computer and keep getting INACCESSIBLE BOOT DRIVE. I can put the OLD HDD back into the OLD LAPTOP and it works fine.

I also tried to upgrade the NEW LAPTOP to Windows 11 using a USB created from the Windows 11 download page. It just tells me that I can not upgrade from the USB, or an ISO if I created one, and that I need to upgrade from windows.

Since I can not get windows to load on the HDD how can I get Windows 11 on this HDD and keep all my applications and data ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer
    CPU
    i7-11800H
    Motherboard
    TGL-RAV4-TLS
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop Display
    Hard Drives
    NVMe SSD GM7000 1TB
    Keyboard
    built-in
    Mouse
    touchpad
You have to convert the old HDD to GPT and booting in UEFI mode. It is likely MBR now with an NTFS system partition that cannot boot in the new laptop which boots in UEFI mode.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
You're trying to use a HDD in a modern laptop vs an SSD? Also sounds like you are using the incorrect USB drive to install/upgrade to Win11. You need to download the Media Creation Tool to create a proper Win11 USB installer. As mentioned by NavyLCDR you might be running into UEFI issues with booting.
I would recommend NOT using a spinning HDD and getting an SSD(Sata or NVMe) drive to run the laptop OS.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 7/10/11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    I'm a computer enthusiast so have quite a few systems that I run. More like an advanced hobby.

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3593
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
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Clearly a new installation is needed. Be sure to backup your files OK
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    WiN11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom 775 System
    CPU
    Xeon E5450 3.0GHZ (OC 3.7GHZ)
    Motherboard
    ASUS PQ5-EM
    Memory
    8GB (2GBX4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD R5 430 2GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    1TB|750GB USB, 3 SSDs 2 240GB 1 128GB, 750GB HDD
    PSU
    650WATT Rosewill
    Case
    Rosewill with side Window
    Cooling
    5 Fans and a big HSK for cpu
    Keyboard
    Rosewill RGB
    Mouse
    Rosewill RGB
    Internet Speed
    AT&T 150MB DL\UP
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    I'm lucky to even be here after 6yrs from my car accident
  • Operating System
    WiN10 LTSC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Hp 8460p
    CPU
    i7 2670QM 2.20GHZ
    Motherboard
    Hp 161C
    Memory
    8GB (2X4GB) DUAL Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 3000
    Sound Card
    Intel high Def (basically onboard)
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    OS 128GB l Storage (caddy) 320GB
    PSU
    AC (IDK the watts)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    A USB 3.0 in the Express Card Slot
*Firstly ALWAYS turn off Hibernate before trying to move a system if possible, success rates for hardware moves ~ plummet when a system is in a hibernated state

On original machine:

open an admin cmd prompt
Code:
C:\Users\Owner>powercfg /hibernate off

Your boot issue can be corrected by docking the drive and using EaseUS partition master and Diskpart.

In EaseUS Partition Master, there is, to the left of the graphical disk area, a place you can "Right-Click>Convert to GPT". It does fail sometimes, but when trying to use the automatic "Right-Click>Convert to GPT" and getting an error, in absolute last ditch effort to save a system that refuses to convert over to GPT (after its been backed up elsewhere) you can use EaseUS to delete all other partitions around the Windows partition and the right-click GPT conversion should then succeed. But even if the conversion is successful without removing the partitions, you will still need to manually build an EFI partition, using diskpart, to complete the conversion to a fully bootable disk.

Once you complete the EaseUS portion:
open an admin cmd prompt
Code:
C:\Users\Owner>diskpart
DISKPART>lis dis
*lets assume you can tell its disk #2 based on the size of 250gb, you can also look this up in disk management
DISKPART>sel dis 2
DISKPART>lis par
*you should only see 1 partition
DISKPART>cre par efi size=650
DISKPART>format fs=fat32 quick
DISKPART>assign letter q (or any other available letter, we will use q for this example)
DISKPART>exit (exits diskpart console)
*check to see which drive letter the docked drive's windows partition is we're gonna say you see that its E: for this example
C:\Users\Owner>bcdboot E:\windows /s q: /f ALL

Now, assuming you dont need to update the raid drivers or remove IDE drivers for the system to be compatible, its should boot up... If not you can try to get it into safe mode, which solves most other lingering bootup issues..

Driver changes may be necessary but arent always and are very easy by combining DoubleDriver to export and DISM++ to delete/import if you end up going that route.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    PE
Or you can use Microsoft's own mbr2gpt program to do it all automatically, but it is a little bit finicky.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
The Acer Nitro AN517-54 has a PCI Express Solid State Drive Interface. I understand that it is a M.2 drive.
Why don't you buy a M.2 NVMe drive, install Win 10 as UEFI-GPT and then replace the C: partition with the one you have on the HDD. You will have your win 10 on a fast NVMe SSD drive.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 11 Pro - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 128G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • Operating System
    Windows 7 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
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