Updating Microsoft Secure Boot keys


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 Windows IT Pro Blog:

Microsoft, in collaboration with our ecosystem partners, is preparing to roll out replacement certificates that’ll set new Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) Certificate Authorities (CAs) trust anchors in Secure Boot for the future. Look out for Secure Boot database updates rolling out in phases to add trust for the new database (DB) and Key Exchange Key (KEK) certificates. This new DB update is available as an optional servicing update for all Secure Boot enabled devices from February 13, 2024.

What is Secure Boot?​

Secure Boot is a security feature in the UEFI that helps ensure that only trusted software runs during the system’s boot sequence. It works by verifying the digital signature of any software against a set of trusted digital keys stored in the UEFI. As an industry standard, UEFI’s Secure Boot defines how platform firmware manages certificates, authenticates firmware, and how the operating system (OS) interfaces with this process. For more details on UEFI and Secure Boot, please refer to this article.

Secure Boot was first introduced to Windows systems with the Windows 8 release to protect against the emerging pre-boot malware (bootkit) threat at that time. Since then, Secure Boot has continued to be a part of Microsoft's Trusted Boot security architecture. Secure Boot authenticates modules such as UEFI firmware drivers, bootloaders, applications, and option ROMs (Read-Only Memory), which are firmware run by the PC BIOS during platform initialization, before they are all executed. As the final step of the Secure Boot process, the firmware verifies the Windows boot loader is trusted by Secure Boot and then passes control to the boot loader which in turn verifies, loads into memory, and launches Windows. This process coupled with the UEFI firmware signing process helps to ensure that only verified code executes before Windows, preventing attackers from utilizing the boot path as an attack vector. To learn more about how Secure Boot fits in with the overall Windows chip-t-cloud security, please refer to the Windows Security Book RWMyFE.

Trust and authenticity in Secure Boot are built using the Public-Key Infrastructure (PKI). This establishes a certificate management system which utilizes CAs to store digital certificates. These CAs, consisting of Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) or their delegates and Microsoft, generate key pairs that form the root of trust of a system.

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Secure Boot “root of trust”: Setting trust anchors for the future​

Secure Boot’s root of trust utilizes a hierarchical system, where the Platform Key (PK) is typically managed by the OEM and used to sign updates to the KEK database. The KEK in turn signs updates to both the Allowed Signature DB and the Forbidden Signature Database (DBX).

The Secure Boot Allowed Signature DB and the DBX are integral to the functionality of Secure Boot. Bootloader modules’ signing authority must be allowlisted by the Secure Boot DB, while the DBX is used for revoking previously trusted boot components. Updates to the DB and DBX must be signed by a KEK in the Secure Boot KEK database.

The configuration of Secure Boot DB and KEK for Windows devices has remained the same since Windows 8. Microsoft requires every OEM to include the same three certificates managed by Microsoft for Windows and in support of the third-party hardware and OS ecosystem. These include the Microsoft Corporation KEK CA 2011 stored in the KEK database, and two certificates stored in the DB called the Microsoft Windows Production PCA 2011, which signs the Windows bootloader, and the Microsoft UEFI CA 2011 (or third-party UEFI CA), which signs third-party OS and hardware driver components.

All three of these Microsoft certificates expire in 2026. So, in collaboration with our ecosystem partners, Microsoft is preparing to roll out replacement certificates that will set new UEFI CA trust anchors for the future. Microsoft will be rolling out Secure Boot database updates in phases to add trust for the new DB and KEK certificates. The first DB update will add the Microsoft Windows UEFI CA 2023 to the system DB. The new Microsoft Windows UEFI CA 2023 will be used to sign Windows boot components prior to the expiration of the Windows Production CA 2011. This DB update will be optional for the February 2024 servicing and preview updates, and can be manually applied to devices. Microsoft will slowly roll out this DB update as we validate devices and firmware compatibility globally. The full DB update’s controlled-rollout process to all Windows customers will begin during the 2024 April servicing and preview updates, ahead of the certificate expiration in 2026. Meanwhile, efforts to update the Microsoft UEFI CA 2011 (aka third-party UEFI CA) and Microsoft Corporation KEK CA 2011 will begin late 2024, and will follow a similar controlled rollout process as this DB update.

While Microsoft has frequently performed DBX updates globally since the inception of Secure Boot, this will be the first DB update performed on such a large scale. We’re actively collaborating with our OEM partners to identify and address bugs in firmware implementation that could result in unbootable systems or render a device unreceptive to the DB update. To ensure a successful rollout, devices with identified issues will be suspended from receiving the update until a fix is released.

Microsoft is taking a very deliberate and cautious approach to rolling out this update. With this DB update, Microsoft will sustain its ability to service all Windows devices’ boot components.

Guidance to manually apply DB update​

The DB update is available on February 13, 2024, along with manual steps to allow customers to test for firmware compatibility, especially for organizations with fleets of devices. If you would like to manually apply the DB update to validate that your system is compatible, please read the following instructions. These actions should be completed with non-critical hardware representing devices in your environment.

Pre-requisite checks​

Before attempting the DB update, please ensure to perform the necessary pre-requisite checks:
  1. If you intend to manually apply this update to a large group of devices, we advise that you begin by rolling out to individual devices with the same firmware and specifications first to minimize the risks in the case of firmware bugs in your devices.
  2. Please verify that your UEFI firmware version is the most recent available version by your firmware vendor or OEM.
  3. For data backup steps, please refer to this guide.
  4. If you use BitLocker or if your enterprise has deployed BitLocker on your machine, ensure to backup BitLocker Keys:

    A) See this portal to ensure your BitLocker keys are backed up before your next reboot for your selfhost device. In the unlikely event that device becomes inoperable after receiving the update, the hard drive can still be unlocked.

    B) If the keys are backed up, the UI should resemble the following:

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    C) If the keys are not backed up, please open Windows Search to search for “Manage BitLocker” and select Back up your recovery key followed by Save to your Azure AD or MSA account.

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For users that use a local account instead of an Azure Active Directory (AAD) or Microsoft account (MSA), you can print your recovery password, save to a file, and store it in a secure location.

Formal DB update steps​

  1. Apply the February 2024 (or later) security update.
  2. Open a PowerShell console and ensure that PowerShell is running as an administrator before running the following commands:
    1. Set the registry key to:

      Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecureBoot" -Name "AvailableUpdates" -Value 0x40
    2. Run the following scheduled task as:

      Start-ScheduledTask -TaskName "\Microsoft\Windows\PI\Secure-Boot-Update"
  3. Reboot the machine twice after running these commands to confirm that the machine is booting with the updated DB.
  4. To verify that the Secure Boot DB update was successful, open a PowerShell console and ensure that PowerShell is running as an administrator before running the following command:

    [System.Text.Encoding]::ASCII.GetString((Get-SecureBootUEFI db).bytes) -match ‘Windows UEFI CA 2023’

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If the command returns “True”, the update was successful. In the case of errors while applying the DB update, please refer to the article, KB5016061: Addressing vulnerable and revoked Boot Managers.


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While i'd like a Newer More Modern Desktop, this one still meets all my needs surpisingly lol, now get me around a Micro center (if one was close) and i'd probably end up with one LOL)

Oh well someday i'll experience Intel P & E Cores if i stay Intel based lol
 

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While i'd like a Newer More Modern Desktop, this one still meets all my needs surpisingly lol, now get me around a Micro center (if one was close) and i'd probably end up with one LOL)
I'm about 45 to 60 minutes from the one in Saint Davids Pa.
 

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Well About 37.3 Miles depending on Traffic & Such, of course i don't drive, and doubt Family members would ever drive me out there lol

But eventually might say i have to, as might trust them more replacing Battery in my HP Omen Gaming Laptop, than Local shop maybe--not sure lol
 

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Distances folks complain about in the NE is funny.

I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, and I'm back in Pittsburgh, but I worked mostly in California.
In Cali... everything is 30+ miles apart. :-)



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Well About 37.3 Miles depending on Traffic & Such, of course i don't drive, and doubt Family members would ever drive me out there lol

But eventually might say i have to, as might trust them more replacing Battery in my HP Omen Gaming Laptop, than Local shop maybe--not sure lol
If we were neighbors I would drive you there. I can't say I wouldn't come home with a new desktop and hhave to move into the dog's house. I'm a big fan of the PowerSpeck desktops. I just wish that I could choose a case with external drive bays. I prefer internal DVD drives and I have a 3 1/2 drive caddie in my spare parts box that I would love to use again. I use to use it to swap out different OS drives.
 

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Distances folks complain about in the NE is funny.

I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, and I'm back in Pittsburgh, but I worked mostly in California.
In Cali... everything is 30+ miles apart. :-)



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My son lived in Corona California for a few years. He is now back in N.J. IMHO that was a very nice area of California. When he was living there I thought about my wife and I moving to Corona when we retired. We are now retired, our son is back in N.J. and my dreams about moving there are now just a pipe dream.
 

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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Hi,
Using my older win-10 winpe usb rescue media can be used I just need to disable secure boot "which it usually is anyway along with TPM" and go on with business as usual create/ restore/ startup repair/... when needed

So yeah all this new PE 11 stuff is just if you want to leave secure boot on and be able to boot to it so it's a big fat nothing burger with secure boot off !

I'll live with secure boot off thanks no need force these updates with the tutorial process until it's a crucial/ Important update I'll just hide the optional update if and when it shows up :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
Damn am I on the correct thread ?
This tutorial has gone way off topic :lmao:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
Ran across a post from @Bree on reflect forum about patching the RE which I don't use but is interesting to see it :cool:

Code:
As a test I have just applied the DBX revocations to the bios of one of my PCs and enabled secure boot.
As expected, this test PC can now no longer boot from most of my USBs. Only the very latest Windows
install USBs are allowed to boot, and none of my Reflect rescue USBs will boot unless
I turn off secure boot.

In the documentation for KB5025885 Microsoft say that Phase Two of the mitigations and revocations
deployment started with the 11 July Patch Tuesday updates:

Updates for Windows released on or after July 11, 2023 which adds the following:
- Allow easier, automated deployment of the revocation files (Code Integrity Boot policy and Secure Boot
disallow list (DBX)).
- New Event Log events will be available to report whether revocation deployment was successful or not.
- SafeOS dynamic update package for Window Recovery Environment (WinRE).

This means that WinRE should now have been updated to work with the revocations.
I built new Windows RE rescue media on a Win11 PC that had been updated to the 11th July CU for 22621.1992.
but had not had the revocations applied. The test PC now booted normally from this USB.

So Macrium rescue media appears to be a non-issue, at least, for Windows RE rescue media.
All you have to do is rebuild your rescue media with Windows RE as its base wim on a system that has been
updated to the 11 July CU or later. Note that it is not necessary to apply the revocations, it is sufficient
that the PC has had the 11 July update (or later).

The only catch is that if you have already built the Boot Menu, then you'll have to force a wim rebuild
so that it will use the now updated Win RE. To do that, open the Rescue Media Builder and hold down the
Ctrl key, the Build button will become a drop-down menu.

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
Ran across a post from @Bree on reflect forum about patching the RE
I was going to use the tip on my old desktop to do the update and when I clicked on Create Rescue Media, Macrium gave me an option to update to a new release of WinRe. I'm guessing that Macrium now does everything and the tip to hold down the Ctrl key is no longer needed?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
@glasskuter

Thanks for that post at 3:27am local.

Although only as yet applicable to various Win server versions, it finally lays out real results of installing these "revocations".

Most of my questions are now answered, including the apprehension that this will be quietly forced with an update, no reversals allowed.

USB boot disks for recovering from images will need to be very carefully tendered to, nutured, with no guarantee of successful change as far as I can tell. But at least we now know what is coming.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15s_du1xxx
    CPU
    Intel i5 10210U
    Motherboard
    85F1
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
only as yet applicable to various Win server versions,
No it applies to all editions you have to expand the MORE link to see them
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
No it applies to all editions you have to expand the MORE link to see them
Yes, you're right. I scanned the MORE extension to about halfway, all were listing the server editions, so I lost interest.

Fourth from the bottom of the list:

Windows 11 Home and Pro, version 23H2

No comment yet on Secure Boot on/off that I could find. Coming I expect - like the 2nd boot thudding onto the floor, from the fabled story "Man Upstairs" ...

I don't expect the increasing MS grip on control to ease off now.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15s_du1xxx
    CPU
    Intel i5 10210U
    Motherboard
    85F1
    Memory
    16Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
I completed the update today. It was part of other system changes.

  1. Update to new Windows 11 Pro 223H2 Beta Insider Channel version.
  2. Update of Asus Z790 motherboard bios to the new version 2002.
  3. Manual update of bios settings.
  4. Ran some system stability tests.
  5. Ran PowerShell Secure Boot update commands as per Microsoft instructions.
  6. Rebooted twice, no issues.
It should be a very simple process assuming the target system is stable.

Powershell - secure boot update.jpg
 
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 1801
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External Fiio K5 Pro ESS DAC - Headphone Amplifier
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 50" QNED80 TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ProBook 455 G7
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 4500U
    Memory
    16GB DDR 3200mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    512 GB PCIe® NVMe
That was pretty straightforward, turned false into true by following the steps. I cleaned up the online backed up Bitlocker recovery keys in the process. I'll do the laptop tomorrow.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-10600K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z490 Elite AC
    Memory
    32 GB (G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3600C16D-32GVKC)
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Gaming Z Trio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG UltraGear 32GR93U
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    Kingston A2000 500GB; Kingston A2000 1TB; Seagate Barracuda Compute 3,5", 8TB
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 11 750W
    Case
    be quiet! Silent Base 801
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-1155G7
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xᵉ
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080

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