Are TPM modules needed?

Dch48

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I don't know how many here know this but a lot of people don't. The majority of systems in use today do not need a discrete TPM module installed. Even if your motherboard has a TPM header, you most likely don't need a module if your processor is relatively recent. Even many of the processors that don't make Microsoft's compatibility list have built in TPM functionality. My Acer laptop with a Ryzen 5 2500U has TPM 2.0 but still doesn't qualify. My tablet with an Intel Atom Z3735F CPU does as well. AMD calls their integrated function fTPM and Intel calls it PTT. They have been in all CPU's from the 2 companies since 2016 and 2015 respectively. It just needs to be enabled in the machine's BIOS. That does not mean the CPU will automatically qualify though as Microsoft uses additional standards to determine that.
 
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FDretired

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I recently had my system upgraded with

1)Motherboard Asus Prime B560-PLUS

2) CPU INTEL i511400

I cannot see anything in the bios called PTT

I was fortunate to locate ASUS TMP 2.0 module.

Windows 11 is installed in this system.
 

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BunnyJ

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I don't know how many here know this but a lot of people don't. The majority of systems in use today do not need a discrete TPM module installed. Even if your motherboard has a TPM header, you most likely don't need a module if your processor is relatively recent. Even many of the processors that don't make Microsoft's compatibility list have built in TPM functionality. My Acer laptop with a Ryzen 5 2500U has TPM 2.0 but still doesn't qualify. My tablet with an Intel Atom Z3735F CPU does as well. AMD calls their integrated function fTPM and Intel calls it PTT. They have been in all CPU's from the 2 companies since 2016 and 2015 respectively. It just needs to be enabled in the machine's BIOS. That does not mean the CPU will automatically qualify though as Microsoft uses additional standards to determine that.
No.. all anyone needs to do is activate TP2 firmware.
 

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wordsworth

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I recently had my system upgraded with

1)Motherboard Asus Prime B560-PLUS

2) CPU INTEL i511400

I cannot see anything in the bios called PTT

I was fortunate to locate ASUS TMP 2.0 module.

Windows 11 is installed in this system.
Your motherboard is on the Asus list of motherboards that have PTT in the BIOS. Click on the link I gave you and the page shows you where to find PTT in the BIOS as well, just scroll down the page. You will look in the BIOS for Advanced/PCH-FW Configuration and it is in there.
 

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FDretired

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Your motherboard is on the Asus list of motherboards that have PTT in the BIOS. Click on the link I gave you and the page shows you where to find PTT in the BIOS as well, just scroll down the page. You will look in the BIOS for Advanced/PCH-FW Configuration and it is in there.

Thanks a million. I will upgrade my wife's computer in the future and not panic over TPM!
 

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wordsworth

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Dch48

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No.. all anyone needs to do is activate TP2 firmware.
Not all motherboards have that and even some that do still have a header for a discrete module. All CPU's from 2016 on have been required to have it. I fell into the trap when I upgraded my gaming rig with a B550-A Pro board and a Ryzen 5 5600X CPU. Because I saw the board had a header, I thought I needed a module so I ordered one from MSI. Even with it installed, the BIOS only recognizes the AMD fTPM. I tried to return the module but MSI won't take it back. Therefore I have a 12 pin TPM module available if anyone needs one.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    MSI B550-A Pro
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6600XT with 8GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Realtek integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro 24" RG241Y
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB SATA SSD
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD
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    LEPA B650 650 watt
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    Enermax Coenus
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    CM Storm Devastator
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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
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    Acer Nitro 5 (AN515-42)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
    Motherboard
    Acer/ Freed_RRS
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-2400
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Radeon Vega 8 and discrete Radeon RX 560X with 4GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop screen 15.6" IPS
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Crucial MX-500 SATA SSD in m.2 slot, 1TB backup SATA HDD
    PSU
    Battery power and Acer power brick/adapter
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    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop fans
    Mouse
    Touchpad and e-Blue Cobra jr.
    Keyboard
    Built in backlit
    Internet Speed
    100mbps
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    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
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