Are TPM modules needed?


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I don't know how many here know this but a lot of people don't. The majority of systems in use today do not need a discrete TPM module installed. Even if your motherboard has a TPM header, you most likely don't need a module if your processor is relatively recent. Even many of the processors that don't make Microsoft's compatibility list have built in TPM functionality. My Acer laptop with a Ryzen 5 2500U has TPM 2.0 but still doesn't qualify. My tablet with an Intel Atom Z3735F CPU does as well. AMD calls their integrated function fTPM and Intel calls it PTT. They have been in all CPU's from the 2 companies since 2016 and 2015 respectively. It just needs to be enabled in the machine's BIOS. That does not mean the CPU will automatically qualify though as Microsoft uses additional standards to determine that.
 
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I recently had my system upgraded with

1)Motherboard Asus Prime B560-PLUS

2) CPU INTEL i511400

I cannot see anything in the bios called PTT

I was fortunate to locate ASUS TMP 2.0 module.

Windows 11 is installed in this system.
 

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I don't know how many here know this but a lot of people don't. The majority of systems in use today do not need a discrete TPM module installed. Even if your motherboard has a TPM header, you most likely don't need a module if your processor is relatively recent. Even many of the processors that don't make Microsoft's compatibility list have built in TPM functionality. My Acer laptop with a Ryzen 5 2500U has TPM 2.0 but still doesn't qualify. My tablet with an Intel Atom Z3735F CPU does as well. AMD calls their integrated function fTPM and Intel calls it PTT. They have been in all CPU's from the 2 companies since 2016 and 2015 respectively. It just needs to be enabled in the machine's BIOS. That does not mean the CPU will automatically qualify though as Microsoft uses additional standards to determine that.
No.. all anyone needs to do is activate TP2 firmware.
 

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I recently had my system upgraded with

1)Motherboard Asus Prime B560-PLUS

2) CPU INTEL i511400

I cannot see anything in the bios called PTT

I was fortunate to locate ASUS TMP 2.0 module.

Windows 11 is installed in this system.
Your motherboard is on the Asus list of motherboards that have PTT in the BIOS. Click on the link I gave you and the page shows you where to find PTT in the BIOS as well, just scroll down the page. You will look in the BIOS for Advanced/PCH-FW Configuration and it is in there.
 

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Your motherboard is on the Asus list of motherboards that have PTT in the BIOS. Click on the link I gave you and the page shows you where to find PTT in the BIOS as well, just scroll down the page. You will look in the BIOS for Advanced/PCH-FW Configuration and it is in there.

Thanks a million. I will upgrade my wife's computer in the future and not panic over TPM!
 

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No.. all anyone needs to do is activate TP2 firmware.
Not all motherboards have that and even some that do still have a header for a discrete module. All CPU's from 2016 on have been required to have it. I fell into the trap when I upgraded my gaming rig with a B550-A Pro board and a Ryzen 5 5600X CPU. Because I saw the board had a header, I thought I needed a module so I ordered one from MSI. Even with it installed, the BIOS only recognizes the AMD fTPM. I tried to return the module but MSI won't take it back. Therefore I have a 12 pin TPM module available if anyone needs one.
 

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Not all motherboards have that and even some that do still have a header for a discrete module. All CPU's from 2016 on have been required to have it. I fell into the trap when I upgraded my gaming rig with a B550-A Pro board and a Ryzen 5 5600X CPU. Because I saw the board had a header, I thought I needed a module so I ordered one from MSI. Even with it installed, the BIOS only recognizes the AMD fTPM. I tried to return the module but MSI won't take it back. Therefore I have a 12 pin TPM module available if anyone needs one.

what kind of 12pin TPM module do you have? was it msi ms4462 like it was described here or here?
 

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Not all motherboards have that and even some that do still have a header for a discrete module. All CPU's from 2016 on have been required to have it. I fell into the trap when I upgraded my gaming rig with a B550-A Pro board and a Ryzen 5 5600X CPU. Because I saw the board had a header, I thought I needed a module so I ordered one from MSI. Even with it installed, the BIOS only recognizes the AMD fTPM. I tried to return the module but MSI won't take it back. Therefore I have a 12 pin TPM module available if anyone needs one.

Have you gone into the UEFI firmware and changed the setting from fTPM to the physical one?

I have the MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE, with both, fTPM and header for physical TPM - After installing my own physical one, I then had to change the settings in the UEFI to use the dedicated module - by default, the fTPM was being used until I explicitly changed it.
 

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Have you gone into the UEFI firmware and changed the setting from fTPM to the physical one?

I have the MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE, with both, fTPM and header for physical TPM - After installing my own physical one, I then had to change the settings in the UEFI to use the dedicated module - by default, the fTPM was being used until I explicitly changed it.
Of course I tried to do that but the BIOS only saw the fTPM. I had no way to change it. If I disabled the fTPM, it said I had nothing. Now that was a while ago. Before the chipset and BIOS updates that ironed out other issues. I haven't tried the module since then.

Thinking about it, it may also have been with the first board that had USB issues and turned out to have a bad chipset. I don't think I even tried the module on the replacement board because I had found out I didn't need it.
 

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Thanks a million. I will upgrade my wife's computer in the future and not panic over TPM!


Discrete TPM is for a TPM module.
Firmware TPM is for the TPM built into the CPU.


This is from your manual...

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BTW PCH = Platform Controller Hub = Chipset (not CPU). Implemented in the Chipset Intel Management Engine. Been there before LOL
 

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tinmar49

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My laptop has a 6th gen i3 which does not qualify, but when I checked, I was surprised to find that it had TPM and secure boot enabled from new. Until W11 came on the scene, I had not heard of either.
There are people selling TPM modules for much more than they are worth, relying on many users not understanding that there are ways to enable TPM other than adding a module. Another problem with modules is the lack of any standardisation of their connections, I can think of at least 3 variations in pin numbers and configuration, you may be lucky but the odds are against even being able to get it to plug in.
 

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    Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
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The biggest issues, though, are 1) compatibility (as Win11 will complain, albeit briefly, about fTPM that is < v2.0), and 2) at least with some versions of fTPM in AMD-based chipsets, a performance hit to Windows 11. Paying stupidly high prices without seeing if you actually need it is rubbish, of course, but as always, it helps if you do a little reading and asking questions to get a solid answer.

You don't necessarily *need* to buy a module. If you want to, though, it's perfectly fine to do so. I did it because I *thought* I had an issue with fTPM not storing my creds when flashing a newer firmware - but it was actually an OEM problem, as until early this year MSI had not released a UEFI fw that was (listed as) Win11 compatible - though all the previous ones I had used were working rather well with both the previews and the release product.

If a physical module is listed for more than around $20 USD, skip it - not worth it. And skip all scalpers selling them - simply not worth it.

The choice is yours - but no matter what, make an informed choice.
 

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Just out of interest, I looked for TPM modules on ebay (UK) and it is a very different situation from when I looked back in November. Mostly the prices have dropped back to pre scalping levels and many of the sellers actually show the pinout diagrams. With some research, it will be much safer buying now for those who really need the enhanced security of a dedicated module.
 

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    Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
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in short no hardware needed. My pc wanted an upgrade a while back and bought a new MB and PCU. Good, fine. Great improvement. Then along came Win 11 and it said not compat. Needed TPM. I asked, I think in Win 10 forum, and the answer was trigger it in BIOS. I did and I got the msg Win11 ready. I did NOT need aditional hardware. THen, last week, I had installed the latest Gigabyte MB along with the latest AMD Chip and it said, you pc is not Win 11 ready. I spoke to my local pc shop, he said he could have forgotten to enable TPM; he did, and told me how to enable it. I did and it still didnt work, apparently I had to enable TWO settings. I did, and my pc is now Win 11 ready with no extra hardware required.
 
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More security must be a good thing, isn't it. Things like TPM are present in servers and high security applications for very long time. I remember having a thing doing same job as a key connected to parallel port, all inter corporation connected servers (over leased line at that time) had to have one or no communication. Did essentially same job, held security protocol keys.
As individual PCs started to take over, TPM and like devices filtered to them, first with just and ad on connector and lately incorporated in CPUs.
Secure BOOT used to be incorporated in SW or OS and good against messing with system BOOT root files.
UEFI instead of Legacy/ CSM BIOS provides facility for those things (and more) and has been around 10+ years.
 

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    Asus Prime x470 Pro
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    Asus ROG Rx 570 OC, 4GB
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