How to disable Modern Standby? I want regular Sleep again!


wrgwh

wrgwh

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I recently upgraded from a trusty Thinkpad T430 to a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro (Ryzen 5800H) with Windows 11. I am appalled every morning to find my laptop hot and even spinning its fans if plugged in, or during the day to pull it out of my backpack and feel some warmth with 5-10% less battery life. I have no idea who thought that a professional machine with a hungry x86 processor should behave as a smartphone and be constantly on.

Sadly, my researching online has led to no way to disable completely Modern Standby and bring S3 Sleep back. Even the system reports it doesn't support it:
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Is it really possible that a laptop cannot sleep or is it just somehow disabled in the registry? What can I do to enable S3 sleep?

Many thanks
 

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You might not be able to enable S3 sleep. Is there any way to disable SO Low Power Idle? That might be worth looking into.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 RP channel
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    Home built
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    Ryzen 9 5900X
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    MSI MPG X570S Edge Max WiFi
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    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C18
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    ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super OC 12GB DDR6 / ZOTAC RTX 3060 Twin Edge OC 12GB GDDR6
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    ViewSonic XG2530 25"/Benq XL2411P 24"/ ASUS VA24DQSB) 23.8"
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    Corsair RM1000e
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    Ryzen 7 3700X
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    MSI B550 Gaming GEN3 Gaming Motherboard
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    32MB DDR4
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Its on this forum as one of the excellent tutorials by @Brink
www.elevenforum.com

Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to disable Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) to enable S3 support on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power model is an older standard and is...
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Alienware M18 R1
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    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
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    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
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    18" QHD+
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    25660 X 1600
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    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
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    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
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    Alienware Area 51m R2
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    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
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    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
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    Nvidia
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    1920 x 1080
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    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
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    Alienware 610M
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    Chrome
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    Norton
Of course, aren't there benefits from modern standby such as recovering work if a power outage occurs?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 RP channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG X570S Edge Max WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C18
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super OC 12GB DDR6 / ZOTAC RTX 3060 Twin Edge OC 12GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Proprietary on MB / FiiO K5Pro DAC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic XG2530 25"/Benq XL2411P 24"/ ASUS VA24DQSB) 23.8"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 240Hz/144Hz/60Hz (based on monitor setup above)
    Hard Drives
    SK hynix Gold P31 1TB PCIe NVMe Gen3 M.2 2280 Internal SSD
    ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000e
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower Chassis with Window
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H60i RGB PRO XT Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70
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    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    ~950Mb/s download / ~700Mb/s upload
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Norton 360
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Home Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    MSI B550 Gaming GEN3 Gaming Motherboard
    Memory
    32MB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    I forget, but it's old. I can't see the need to upgrade it.
    Sound Card
    Propietary
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LED 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung SSD 3.5"
    Case
    Corsair
    Cooling
    Stock
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    ~750Mb/s download / ~750Mb/s upload
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender and Malware Bytes
I haven't looked into it as mine is not compatible with it
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M18 R1
    CPU
    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
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    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
The-Hive said:
Its on this forum as one of the excellent tutorials by @Brink
www.elevenforum.com

Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to disable Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) to enable S3 support on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power model is an older standard and is...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com
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I am afraid none of these options made any difference on my machine. As I said, I have tried everything I could find on Google. There doesn't seem to be a way to enable S3 Sleep or even to disable the network-connected side of Modern Standby...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
wrgwh said:
I am afraid none of these options made any difference on my machine. As I said, I have tried everything I could find on Google. There doesn't seem to be a way to enable S3 Sleep or even to disable the network-connected side of Modern Standby...
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Yep - my ASUS laptop is basically the same. I suspect all new laptops will go this way.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
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    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
cereberus said:
Yep - my ASUS laptop is basically the same. I suspect all new laptops will go this way.
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This is truly awful. I will probably disable indexing (I use Everything anyway), Windows Defender and will dig into push notifications. I only really need Outlook for that and I always close Outlook before putting the laptop to sleep because I don't trust it.

An interesting note is whether the same laptop would have normal sleep under Linux or it is disabled in the UEFI.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
cereberus said:
I suspect all new laptops will go this way.
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wrgwh said:
This is truly awful.
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I have two 'almost new' laptops, both less than a year old. One supports Modern Standby, the other (cheaper) one doesn't.
While I cannot remove Modern Standby, I could tame it. To save on battery power I like all my laptops to sleep on closing the lid, then hibernate after 20 minutes if I don't return to them.

My first step was to reduce power drain in modern Standby by disabling network connectivity in Modern Standby.

wrgwh said:
There doesn't seem to be a way to ... disable the network-connected side of Modern Standby...
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Yes there is.

www.elevenforum.com

Enable or Disable Network Connectivity in Modern Standby in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable network connectivity during Modern Standby while on battery and/or plugged in on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

Next I set Hibernate after in Power Options. This setting is missing by default on a Modern Standby install of W11, so first add it back.

www.tenforums.com

Add or Remove Hibernate after from Power Options in Windows

How to Add or Remove 'Hibernate after' from Power Options in Windows
www.tenforums.com www.tenforums.com

Then I could make my Modern Standby laptop behave like all my other machines.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
Bree said:
I have two 'almost new' laptops, both less than a year old. One supports Modern Standby, the other (cheaper) one doesn't.
While I cannot remove Modern Standby, I could tame it. To save on battery power I like all my laptops to sleep on closing the lid, then hibernate after 20 minutes if I don't return to them.

My first step was to reduce power drain in modern Standby by disabling network connectivity in Modern Standby.

Yes there is.

www.elevenforum.com

Enable or Disable Network Connectivity in Modern Standby in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable network connectivity during Modern Standby while on battery and/or plugged in on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

Next I set Hibernate after in Power Options. This setting is missing by default on a Modern Standby install of W11, so first add it back.

www.tenforums.com

Add or Remove Hibernate after from Power Options in Windows

How to Add or Remove 'Hibernate after' from Power Options in Windows
www.tenforums.com www.tenforums.com

Then I could make my Modern Standby laptop behave like all my other machines.
Click to expand...
Thanks for your input! I had indeed disabled network activity through Group Policy but it turned out I only did it for "on battery", and probably that was why the laptop was running warm when plugged in and sleeping. Sleep on battery was definitely better but still some processes did their thing. I presume these are system-wide (indexer, defender, etc.), so they are going away for me.

As for hibernation, my machine auto hibernates when on battery and sleeping over a few hours but I certainly don't like that.
1. SSD wear
2. It's slower to wake up

What the hell was wrong with traditional sleep...? I love how the official Microsoft documentation says "Modern Standby is designed to provide what consumers expect - instant on". But it doesn't! It eats the battery and hibernates, which takes longer to wake up.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
wrgwh said:
As for hibernation, my machine auto hibernates when on battery and sleeping over a few hours but I certainly don't like that.
1. SSD wear
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I gave up worrying about SSD wear a long time ago. I calculate that at my typical rate of use I'll not live to see any of my SSDs reach their specified TBW endurance ;)

techreport.com

The SSD Endurance Experiment: They're all dead

I never thought this whole tech journalism gig would turn me into a mass murderer. Yet here I am, with the blood of six SSDs on my hands, and that’s...
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
No on/off switch ?
No shutdown capability ?

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Skylake Special X299
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 9900X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix X299-E Gaming II
    Memory
    GSkill Trident Z RGB 32GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3 Ultra Gaming (12G-P5-4877-KL)
    Sound Card
    Supreme FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PG279Q
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440 165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 500GB x2, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2, Western Digital Black 4TB x1
    PSU
    EVGA 1200 P2, EVGA Black Custom Braided Cables
    Case
    Thermaltake View 31 Tempered Glass Limited Edition
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
    Keyboard
    Logitech G910 Orion Spark
    Mouse
    Logitech G700s, Asus ROG GX860 Buzzard
    Internet Speed
    Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes 4.5.2
    Other Info
    Thermaltake Riing Duo 14 x3, Thermaltake Riing Plus 14 x2, Corsair HS70 Pro Wireless Headset
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Skylake Special Z170
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 6700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
    Memory
    GSkill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZR)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2, EVGA Pro SLI Bridge
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC G2460PG
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 144Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 Evo 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
    PSU
    EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
    Case
    Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
    Mouse
    Logitech G500s
    Keyboard
    Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
    Internet Speed
    Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes 4.5.2
    Other Info
    Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp
wrgwh said:
2. It's slower to wake up

What the hell was wrong with traditional sleep...? I love how the official Microsoft documentation says "Modern Standby is designed to provide what consumers expect - instant on". But it doesn't! It eats the battery and hibernates, which takes longer to wake up.
Click to expand...
Are you certain this is the case for everyone? Maybe it's something with your particular system that's resulting in slower wakeup. I'm not using a laptop, but I've not noticed that it was slower to wake from Modern Standby.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 RP channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG X570S Edge Max WiFi
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C18
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super OC 12GB DDR6 / ZOTAC RTX 3060 Twin Edge OC 12GB GDDR6
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Well, on my new clean install, I close the lid for sleep, but it's always shut down when I open it back up! What's up with that?!
 

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snerd said:
Well, on my new clean install, I close the lid for sleep, but it's always shut down when I open it back up! What's up with that?!
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Screenshot 2022-02-14 045828.png
 

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snerd said:
lol first thing I checked. Sleep is selected for all.
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Ah right, it wasn't mentioned in the OP so it was the obvious thing to suggest
 

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Well you seem to have ruled out Windows being the culprit so you just might have to check your bios settings.
go to settings / update & security / recovery / advance start up follow the directions to get to your bios settings or ufei settings.
search for sleep modes there and turn them off if active.
 

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snerd said:
Well, on my new clean install, I close the lid for sleep, but it's always shut down when I open it back up! What's up with that?!
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What are the results of
PowerCfg -a
on your computer?

www.elevenforum.com

See Sleep States Available on Windows 11 PC

This tutorial will explain and show you how to see the power sleep states available on your Windows 11 PC. System power states describe the power consumption of the system as a whole. The operating system supports six system power states, referred to as S0 (fully on and operational) through S5...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

- If it's an S0 computer then its does not "Sleep" in the way we normally use the term [i.e. S3 Sleep].
- S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low Power Idle] computers start their increasingly severe idle state as soon as the display does off.
- I have an S0 Modern standby that shuts down with the lid closed whatever the Power options setting is. The maker confirmed that this was set by the Bios and that there was no solution.

All the best,
Denis
 
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wrgwh said:
Is it really possible that a laptop cannot sleep ...? What can I do to enable S3 sleep?
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Yes.
Nothing, probably. No, sorry.

The curse of S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle] might be curable but not in all cases. The relevant MS article is Disabling modern standby - MSDocs but I had severe side-effects from that. That procedure suppressed S0 without, in my case, enabling S3 and it stopped my network adapters working correctly.
The tutorial adds some background info you might be interested in - Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and 11 - ElevenForumTutorials
Sorry, I've just seen that you've already tried that.

This has all been discussed many times. I think S0 modern standby is at least a decade too early. When hardware can use so little power that the computer can last on battery until the middle of next week then perhaps we will regard S0 as useful. But, even then, I don't understand why the extremely useful S3 Sleep we've all grown to know should be denied to us.

One of the many relevant discussions is at another S0 spiel [my #4] - TenForums

Best wishes from a fellow sufferer,
Denis
 
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