Is there a disc format for 4K video?


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Hello!
I know that for 1080p video, we create either a standard Blu Ray disc or an AVCHD-DVD disc. The first preserves the full video quality but requires a BD-R drive to play the disc. The other uses higher AVC video compression to fit in a standard DVD-R disc or a dual layer DVD-R disc. It plays in a standalone Blu Ray player and any computer with a standard DVD-R drive and VLC or other appropriate player.

What about 4K video? I don't have an UHD BD-R drive on my PC. Is there any other format to record 4K video on a standard BD-R or even DVD-R disc? Does it play on a standalone UHD Blu Ray player? I have read about XAVC-S format, but this is compatible with Sony players only. Anything universal? Which software can create such content on Windows 11 or 10, preferably free?

PS: I know I can just burn an MKV file on a disc (data disc), but I wonder if a video disc exists.
 
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It takes a special blu-ray drive, special blu-ray disc, and special software.
 

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It takes a special blu-ray drive, special blu-ray disc, and special software.
That is partially true...

For a dedicated Blu-Ray player (the type you connect to a TV) this is true. You need a 4K capable player.

For a PC, any standard Blu-Ray player will work. The reason for this is that there is no difference whatsoever in the physical media. The only difference is in what CODECs are used to store the video and audio. Of course, the DRM has also been updated. You simply need a Blu-Ray player software package capable of decoding 4K discs.

NOTE: This may be counter-intuitive, but to play 4K UHD discs on a computer you need a CPU << OLDER THAN >> an 11th gen Intel CPU. This is because the DRM requires a CPU feature called "SGX" and that was dropped starting with the 11th gen CPUs.

<RANT ON> I have a collection of WAY over 1,000 DVDs and probably somewhere around 500 Blu-Ray discs, all legitimately purchased at retail. But when the manufacturers go out of their way to make DRM impossible to manage by honest users of their products it makes one start to question why one bothers to color within the lines. <RANT OFF>

For the dedicated players that connect to a TV, the software that does the reading of the discs is built into the player, that is why 4K discs require a new player that can understand 4K discs.
 

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As already mentioned, we normally record HD video on Blu Ray disc. But this is expensive and requires a BD-R drive. Fortunately, it is also possible to record HD video on an UDF data disc with specific structure that plays in a PC AND standalone Blu Ray player. This format is called AVCHD-DVD. I asked if there is anything equivalent for 4K video. Instead of the standard UHD BD-R drive and media that are too expensive, is there any special format to record 4K video on a standard single layer BD-R 25GB or a dual layer BD-R 50GB? Does that format plays on PC only, or it is playable on standalone UHD Blu Ray player? It is restricted to BD-R discs only, or you may also use a standard DVD-R disc or dual layer DVD-R disc (for short videos)? Thanks.
 

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