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I have a PC that I am setting up to share files from a single folder. I have been getting all the settings sorted.
The PC does not have a password configured at launch and I do not want one. The PC is started remotely so under no circumstances must it stop and ask for a password.
Right now, I have managed to get the file sharing going, but have one setting left - username or password.
I have this disabled at the moment, so anyone on the network can access the files.
Now, I am not too worried about security, but even so, I am wary of allowing access over the network without a password.
My question is, can I have a username and password for network access without altering the power up process (in other words so the PC does not stop during power up and ask for a user name and password )?
My fear is that if I create a second user, then at power-up it will stop and ask me which user I want logged in, and that's the last thing I want it to do.
 

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    Win 11
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    12700
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    -
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600, 2560x1080
Windows doesn’t have to be logged on to access a share remotely.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 [rev. 3737]
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    PC/Desktop
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    Intel NUC12WSHi7
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    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
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    NUC12WSBi7
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    64 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe
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    built-in Realtek HD audio
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    Dell U3219Q
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    CODE 104-Key Mechanical Keyboard with Cherry MX Clears
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    CODE 104-Key Mechanical Keyboard - Cherry MX Clear
Yes.


Denis
 

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    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
Yea, you actually never even need to login to that extra user to use the creds either after creating it, so no profile is needed..

But if you ever lock the workstation you will see the other user on the bottom left of the lockscreen.. just a minor inconvenience, yet for some reason when I set shares up this way it bothers me to see it 😆
 

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    PE
I am having trouble here, explaining the problem.

If I create a username and password to access the files over the network, will this adversely affect the power-up of the PC?

At the moment the PC does not have a login for a local user and it must remain that way.

Because the primary user of that PC does not have a password, windows powers up and just goes right to the desktop requiring nothing from the user.

I am terrified that if I create a special username and password for network access that it will change that local power-up.

The last thing I want is for the PC to stop when it is powering up and ask for a user login.

Or perhaps I am misunderstanding this.

Perhaps I should ask a different question?

What do I need to do to enable password protection. It asks for a username and password, but there isn't one.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    12700
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    -
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600, 2560x1080
Are you in proximity to the PC? If so, create the other user account with a password, restart, and see what Windows does. You can always disable the new account if it doesn't behave how you want.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 [rev. 3737]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical Keyboard with Cherry MX Clears
  • Operating System
    Linux Mint 21.2 (Cinnamon)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC8i5BEH
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8259U CPU @ 2.30GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Plus 655
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical Keyboard - Cherry MX Clear
Are you in proximity to the PC? If so, create the other user account with a password, restart, and see what Windows does. You can always disable the new account if it doesn't behave how you want.
I'll try it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    12700
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    -
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600, 2560x1080
Erm, how do I create a user?
Win 11 is trying to push me down creating a new Microsoft Account which is not what I want at all.
Oh wait, typical Microsoft, its hidden.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    12700
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    -
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600, 2560x1080
If I create a username and password to access the files over the network, will this adversely affect the power-up of the PC?
No.
And you'll see that explained in my network checklist as well.
You use an Admin account once only to authorise access by all users.


Denis
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
Because the primary user of that PC does not have a password, windows powers up and just goes right to the desktop requiring nothing from the user.
The first thing that Windows tries is logging in using the user account that was logged in when it was last shut down.
So your intended scheme will not be affected by creating an extra Local Admin user account to authorise access - you will never need to log in to it.
What matters is that this extra Admin has the same username & the same password on every computer. If it differs then you will need to remember what it is everywhere so you can use the right username & password for each pairing [the username & password of the computer you are trying to access not the computer you are trying to access it from].


Denis
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
how do I create a user?
Add Local User Account - ElevenForumTutorials
Change Account Type (Std-Admin) - ElevenForumTutorials
Check Account is Administrator or Standard User - ElevenForumTutorials


Denis



It's really worth making time to browse through the ElevenForum Tutorial index - there's a shortcut to it at the top of every ElevenForum page [within the Tutorials dropdown list].
- At the foot of the ElevenForum Tutorial index is a shortcut to download it as a spreadsheet.
- I download a new copy each month.
- By downloading it as a spreadsheet I can benefit from Excel's excellent filtering capabilities when I search for topics of interest.
- ElevenForum tutorials are also listed at Tutorials and there's a shortcut to that at the top of every page.

You can search ElevenForum using the search box in the top-right corner of all ElevenForum webpages or using Advanced Search - ElevenForum
- You can also search ElevenForum threads in many general search engines, such as Google, by adding site:elevenforum.com after your search term. For example,
Taskbar setup site:elevenforum.com
- [This is what the search box in the top-right corner of ElevenForum webpages does automatically]

For MSOffice problems search in and, if necessary, create threads in the TenForums MSOffice section [ElevenForum does not have one].
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
If I'm understaning your post correctly, you want to do what I'm doing with my mini-pc that I use for streaming. I have it setup with a local account and assigned it a password. Then I used NetPlWiz to set it up to boot without needing to enter the password. To access the mini-pc from my desktop I use //name of computer. The first time I accessed it I was asked to ener the username and password for the mini-pc. Because I'm the only one accessing the mini-pc I checked the box to Remember my credentials so I wouldn't have to enter the username and password every time I want to access the mini-pc.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
If I may just jump in here...

As was noted earlier, Windows makes file shares available whether you logon or not, so logging in or not is a moot point.

However, if your concern is whether or not a user will be prompted for credentials when trying to access a network share, there is an easy way to avoid this. Simply make the share available to the special name "everyone" and turn off "Password protected sharing". By doing this, you make the share available to every user that has access to the network whether or not they have an account on your computer or not.

My suggestion: Create a test folder, let's call it C:\Test. Share it as described above. Test it. This way you can verify that this works as expected without changing anything on your "real" share(s).

If you need detailed instructions on how to accomplish this, just give a shout and I'll provide step-by-step directions.

Put into simplified terms, the name "everyone" is a simple way of making things accessible to literally everyone whether or not they have any valid user credentials on your machine. It also will not care what you are logged in as or even whether you are logged in or not.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
From an Admin CMD prompt type the following (changing the username and password to your preference):

Batch:
net user username password /add
My confusion over this was that Microsoft buried the user creation I expected to see under the new and typical data collection user types - Microsoft Accounts etc. To just create a local account was a little obscure!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    12700
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    -
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600, 2560x1080
If I may just jump in here...

As was noted earlier, Windows makes file shares available whether you logon or not, so logging in or not is a moot point.

However, if your concern is whether or not a user will be prompted for credentials when trying to access a network share, there is an easy way to avoid this. Simply make the share available to the special name "everyone" and turn off "Password protected sharing". By doing this, you make the share available to every user that has access to the network whether or not they have an account on your computer or not.

My suggestion: Create a test folder, let's call it C:\Test. Share it as described above. Test it. This way you can verify that this works as expected without changing anything on your "real" share(s).

If you need detailed instructions on how to accomplish this, just give a shout and I'll provide step-by-step directions.

Put into simplified terms, the name "everyone" is a simple way of making things accessible to literally everyone whether or not they have any valid user credentials on your machine. It also will not care what you are logged in as or even whether you are logged in or not.

This is not about the file shares.

No matter what happens, the file shares will work and that's not the concern. The concern is that my changes will affect the way the PC powers-up.

When the PC powers-up it absolutely must not stop and ask for a password.

Normally I don't use passwords on my PC's you see, so this isn't a problem. I have no idea what happens when I create a user that does have a password.

At the moment, I do have it set with Password Protection to off. It all works. But I just considered this to be a tad unsafe.

I don't know. I may leave it like that. It depends how brave I feel re experimenting!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    12700
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    -
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600, 2560x1080
If I'm understaning your post correctly, you want to do what I'm doing with my mini-pc that I use for streaming. I have it setup with a local account and assigned it a password. Then I used NetPlWiz to set it up to boot without needing to enter the password. To access the mini-pc from my desktop I use //name of computer. The first time I accessed it I was asked to ener the username and password for the mini-pc. Because I'm the only one accessing the mini-pc I checked the box to Remember my credentials so I wouldn't have to enter the username and password every time I want to access the mini-pc.

This is what I want, ideally.


I am just uncertain how to achieve it, or whether to just leave password protection off.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    12700
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070ti
    Sound Card
    -
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600, 2560x1080
WinKey+R

control userpasswords2

UNcheck “Users must enter a username and password to use this computer”

Userpasswords2 is a netplwiz shortcut
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    PE
This is what I want, ideally.


I am just uncertain how to achieve it, or whether to just leave password protection off.
To be on the safe side you can make a system image before you make any changes.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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