Preparing for Windows 11 24H2 and WMR Changes

Globespy · Feb 20, 2024

Hoping that Microsoft will notice that WMR software is installed on device and give those users fair warning that updating to 24H2 will make their devices destined for the landfill.
If Microsoft are unlikely to give users of WMR devices advanced notice that certain updates will remove all WMR functionality, does anyone know roughly when 24H2 will be arriving? And will users need to do anything specific to ensure they aren't surprised with a 24H2/WMR killing update?

Hoping someone here knows and appreciate any responses.

garlin · Feb 20, 2024

If you need to stay on W11 23H2, follow the TargetReleaseVersion tutorial:
Specify Target Feature Update Version in Windows 11

Change the release version to "23H2".

Mike713 · Feb 20, 2024

Globespy said:
Hoping that Microsoft will notice that WMR software is installed on device and give those users fair warning that updating to 24H2 will make their devices destined for the landfill.
If Microsoft are unlikely to give users of WMR devices advanced notice that certain updates will remove all WMR functionality, does anyone know roughly when 24H2 will be arriving? And will users need to do anything specific to ensure they aren't surprised with a 24H2/WMR killing update?

Hoping someone here knows and appreciate any responses.

I'll be efforting to turn off and disable updates from the day before onward.... hopefully that'll help.

Bree · Feb 20, 2024

Globespy said:
does anyone know roughly when 24H2 will be arriving?

The most informed opinion is probably that of Zac Bowden, who says 24H2 should be released to General Availability in September/October. Whenever it is, the Feature Update to 24H2 will be optional, so you could stay on 23H2 until its EoL on Nov 11, 2025.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1755735623686615370

Hazel123 · Feb 20, 2024

But then we'd be forced to upgrade in Nov 2025 wouldn't we?

glasskuter · Feb 20, 2024

Globespy said:
does anyone know roughly when 24H2 will be arriving? And will users need to do anything specific to ensure they aren't surprised with a 24H2/WMR killing update?

You can stop WU from automatically updating you to 24h2(or whatever MS ends up calling it) using this tutorial. NOTE: This tutorial was written for an older version upgrade. If you use either GPO or registry method, you will have to change the targetreleaseversion to be 23H2 to remain on 23H2.

Specify Target Feature Update Version in Windows 11 Tutorial

This tutorial will show you how to specify a TargetReleaseVersion version of Windows 11 you want to move to or stay on in Windows Update until it reaches end of service in Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, or Education. Windows Update keeps Windows 11 updated by automatically downloading and...

www.elevenforum.com

ian50 · Feb 21, 2024

@glasskuter

Unfortunately, the tutorial you referenced contains the crunch proviso (right at the very end, of course), that the method outlined does not work on the Win11 Home version.

Winuser on the earlier thread about 24H2 revocation rescue boot results seems to imply that he had to redo the Macrium USB recovery boot write after revocation installation, although whether this was with Secure Boot on or off remains unknown.

glasskuter · Feb 21, 2024

ian50 said:
the tutorial you referenced contains the crunch proviso (right at the very end, of course), that the method outlined does not work on the Win11 Home version.

Yes that is correct. I apologize that I failed to specify that without asking if the OP ran Pro or Home. Having Home has quite a few caveats and that is one of them.

ian50 said:
Winuser on the earlier thread about 24H2 revocation rescue boot results seems to imply that he had to redo the Macrium USB recovery boot write after revocation installation, although whether this was with Secure Boot on or off remains unknown.

Just to clarify for anyone who reads this, there is no correlation between your two questions. Stopping a release version of the OS from applying and ramifications of the secure boot revocations MS will be automatically applying this year are two different things.
This article from Macrium explains the solution for creating new recovery media that will work in secure boot systems AFTER the revocations are applied. I believe this applies to recovery media created in Macrium 8.1.7544 or later. That Macrium page is very misleading to the reader IMO. There are references to Macrium 8.0 articles which was the free version of Macrium listed on the same page. AFIK,This new WINPE rescue media can not be created using the old Macrium Free .

Windows Security update for Secure Boot - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

knowledgebase.macrium.com

Mal161 · Feb 21, 2024

Just been looking at this and having had a few problems in windows 11 23H2 and seeing yet more problems with the nest 'improvement'?, I have just turned off my updates. Hope that's right.

I did try to reply to one of the answers, but was moved to something called 'X' to join. Can someone tell me what that is. I dont want to get into things I dont understand.

I have another question, but being new, should I start a fresh question - its relating to windows 11 and Office??
Mal

jvickers · Feb 21, 2024

Mal161 said:
Just been looking at this and having had a few problems in windows 11 23H2 and seeing yet more problems with the nest 'improvement'?, I have just turned off my updates. Hope that's right.

I did try to reply to one of the answers, but was moved to something called 'X' to join. Can someone tell me what that is. I dont want to get into things I dont understand.

I have another question, but being new, should I start a fresh question - its relating to windows 11 and Office??
Mal

"X" as in the former Twitter "X"?

It's best to begin a new thread for fresh questions that might be unrelated to this thread.

ian50 · Feb 21, 2024

@glasskuter

Thank you for your reply. I agree that there so many caveats that picking through them needs some industriousness.

Your comment:

Stopping a release version of the OS from applying and ramifications of the secure boot revocations MS will be automatically applying this year are two different things.

Perhaps, but separated only by a relatively short time period, it seems. Macrium Reflect misled, or perhaps was very confused, by not being clear on which version of its' programme was being referred to. For the time being, one can refuse to apply these revocations and keep Secure Boot off. In 6 months, will this still be so ? Given the confusion around Macrium's flawed advice, it's doubtful anyone outside MS knows the answer for certain.

This has the classic hallmarks of a potentially big mess.

Winuser · Feb 22, 2024

ian50 said:
Winuser on the earlier thread about 24H2 revocation rescue boot results seems to imply that he had to redo the Macrium USB recovery boot write after revocation installation, although whether this was with Secure Boot on or off remains unknown.

I didn't test the old Macrium rescue disk to see if it worked or not. I decided that because I hadn't updated the rescue diskin awhile it was time to do so. When I clicked on the option to make a rescue disk a window in Macrium showed that there was a new version of WinPE so my rescue disk did need to be updated.

gaffar · Feb 22, 2024

WMR software.

garlin · Feb 22, 2024

gaffar said:
WMR software.

Windows Mixed Reality (ie. HoloLens). MS nuked the entire division and abandoned it.

Fabler2 · Feb 22, 2024

May be keep this link handy for possible future use?

Mixed Reality Portal - Microsoft Apps

Discover Windows Mixed Reality and dive into more than 3,000 games and VR experiences from Steam®VR and Microsoft Store. Get extraordinary access to live sports and entertainment and connect with others in the ultimate high-octane VR gaming experience.* Download this app to set up and manage...

apps.microsoft.com

Just installed it on 24H2 Canary build.