Solved PT 2. Windows 11 feels slow considering my specs (21h2)

Hazel123 · Jan 26, 2023

Read a tutorial somewhere on how to back up game saves by copying the folders across to external drive as well - google will probably tell you. Just to be sure you don't lose anything.

Hazel123 · Jan 26, 2023

How full is the SSD currently? They can really slow down if they get too full. Best to leave it half empty IMO

James · Jan 26, 2023

Hazel123 said:
How full is the SSD currently? They can really slow down if they get too full. Best to leave it half empty IMO

It certainately is not half full/empty. But if I format it I will 100% ensure it is LESS than half full.

James · Jan 26, 2023

As a question; should I install a MODIFIED version of windows, all the bloatware taken out, or do that myself with fresh windows. Personally leaning towards the latter. What do you all think?

cereberus · Jan 26, 2023

Hazel123 said:
How full is the SSD currently? They can really slow down if they get too full. Best to leave it half empty IMO

Huh - that does not happen same way as HDDs. Some claim you wear drive out quicker when overfilled as you are writing more frequently to reduced space. Leaving it empty 50% is just wasting space.

James · Jan 26, 2023

cereberus said:
Huh - that does not happen same way as HDDs. Some claim you wear drive out quicker when overfilled as you are writing more frequently to reduced space. Leaving it empty 50% is just wasting space.

Confusing. Really?

cereberus · Jan 26, 2023

James said:
As a question; should I install a MODIFIED version of windows, all the bloatware taken out, or do that myself with fresh windows. Personally leaning towards the latter. What do you all think?

Waste of time - you can uninstall most other apps. More people break things in pursuit of a false dream.

James · Jan 26, 2023

cereberus said:
Waste of time - you can uninstall most other apps. More people break things in pursuit of a false dream.

Thought so. Also no need for rufus etc.

Dru2 · Jan 26, 2023

James said:
The HDD was in when I installed windows, has been the whole life of this PC. For further information, it was a custom built PC and it is just over 2 years old.

I've never bought into the "having two hard drives connected when installing Windows slows the OS" bit. And for the record I have two NVMe drives, and three SATA drives connected, and all I do is disconnect the SATA drives, while leaving the other NVMe drive connected as it's a pain in the arse to remove, so I just leave it, and BIOS disconnect the SATA drives. No slow performing OS here.

Also, not a fan of disabling services as many apps and other services depend on them and in the end, this brings nothing but trouble - all of a sudden you have this issue you can't figure out why or where it came from. Turns out is was some service you disabled some month back, or when you installed the OS

At the end of the day, it's your PC, but....

All that said, did you insure you installed the motherboard drivers? What does your Device Manager look like???

James · Jan 27, 2023

Should I reinstall

Windows 10

I generally prefer windows 10 and it feels faster

Windows 11

Easier to help on this forum and after all is the newer OS

cereberus · Jan 27, 2023

James said:
Should I reinstall

Windows 10

I generally prefer windows 10 and it feels faster

Windows 11

Easier to help on this forum and after all is the newer OS

I see absolutely see no evidence to support W10 seems faster than W11.

Unless you do proper benchmarks, and evaluate what apps are in use etc, nobody can agree or disagree with you as such.

Although it is slow, W11 is developing, W10 is static. So if pc is W11 compatible, you can either get stuck in a cul de sac or not.

Hazel123 · Jan 27, 2023

Decisions decisions. I have 10 on one computer and 11 on another. Sooner or later you will need to get used to 11. I am still using 10 mainly. Muscle memory I guess - but nothing to do with speed of one or the other.

You could install 11 and try it out for a day or so and see how things are. If you're not so sure - install 10 instead and then add everything else back. But at some point you might accidentally click to upgrade to 11 again. If you install 11 from scratch that isn't an issue

Sorry that wasn't much help!

James · Jan 27, 2023

Hazel123 said:
Decisions decisions. I have 10 on one computer and 11 on another. Sooner or later you will need to get used to 11. I am still using 10 mainly. Muscle memory I guess - but nothing to do with speed of one or the other.

You could install 11 and try it out for a day or so and see how things are. If you're not so sure - install 10 instead and then add everything else back. But at some point you might accidentally click to upgrade to 11 again. If you install 11 from scratch that isn't an issue

Sorry that wasn't much help!

'sorry that wasn't much help!' ??? That made my whole decision. I think i will install 11. I'm used to it now, and it's more optimised for games. On top of that I won't have to deal with updating and it is an undoubtedly better-looking and more consistent OS. When 12 comes out, unless it is trash I am going to install ASAP.

Ed Tittel · Jan 27, 2023

I just ran Josh Cell's ancient but still capable Uncleaner on my production desktop: it went from 5.2 GB of junk files to just under 260 MB. Might help you, too: grab it from Major Geeks.
HTH,
--Ed--

Hazel123 · Jan 27, 2023

it's more optimised for games

Good reason

It feels slicker too - you soon get used to the odd annoying menu type things and there are workarounds and various tweaks to make it operate more like W10 if needed.

James · Jan 27, 2023

Ed Tittel said:
I just ran Josh Cell's ancient but still capable Uncleaner on my production desktop: it went from 5.2 GB of junk files to just under 260 MB. Might help you, too: grab it from Major Geeks.
HTH,
--Ed--

Will use on fresh install.

James · Jan 27, 2023

@Hazel123

OK. When I have installed windows, what are the top things I should do. Remove things - install things, what?

I'm only going to put (on the ssd)