Standby issues W11 23H2


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Hello forum people I bring you a frustration so you can share the pain.

The Laptop is not going into Standby when Viber is in the taskbar.

The laptop is getting hot and is in some sort of connected standby even though I turned that off.

How to fix, what is the laptop doing, and why?

Who to blame and for what specifically? Pitchforks ready.


PS C:\Users\VIP> powercfg -a
The following sleep states are available on this system:
Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Disconnected

The following sleep states are not available on this system:
Standby (S1)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Standby (S2)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Standby (S3)
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Hibernate
The system firmware does not support hibernation.
Unable to retrieve verbose reasons why sleep states are unavailable on this system.

OK so I didn't disable connected standby properly.
 
Windows Build/Version
22631.2262

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    I will switch to Linux finally Debian and Arch
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    11th Gen i7 mobile with 20C difference between cores
    Motherboard
    it was specifically made by MSI with annoying thermal power and voltage limits I hate it.
    Memory
    DDR4 sodimm in CR1 - nice
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070 mobile max-q not as powerful as desktop 3070 sad
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth headphones Phillips-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung QLED-nice
    Screen Resolution
    4k-very nice
    Hard Drives
    tons
    PSU
    Blew up
    Case
    Fractral Design
    Cooling
    liquid metal
    Keyboard
    Steelseeries and Razer-not as good as should be
    Mouse
    Razer 8k-maybe good for gaming in 23H2?
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps
    Browser
    Crashing
    Antivirus
    Lagging and constantly false positives thanks MS
  • Operating System
    always Problematic
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    cheap secondhand parts from the recycling bin
    CPU
    4c/8t i7 no OC sad
    Motherboard
    ASUS enterprise no auto OC sad
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia 1070 no hdmi freesync sad
    Sound Card
    Realtek and zalman headphones-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32inch VA panel FreeSync 4K-not as nice as should be-sad
    Screen Resolution
    4K--not as nice as should be-sad
    Hard Drives
    lots
    PSU
    new, defective but works
    Case
    Fractal Design-the sound dampening collects bad smells lol
    Cooling
    must delid and liquid metal asap even though its not OC cpu sad
    Mouse
    Razer 8K - more pain than gain
    Keyboard
    Razer 8Khz - horrible software
    Internet Speed
    600Mbps
    Browser
    Still not as good as should be
    Antivirus
    Annoying
    Other Info
    Should switch to Apple TBH
shaftofxistence said:
Hello forum people I bring you a frustration so you can share the pain.

The Laptop is not going into Standby when Viber is in the taskbar.

The laptop is getting hot and is in some sort of connected standby even though I turned that off.

How to fix, what is the laptop doing, and why?

Who to blame and for what specifically? Pitchforks ready.


PS C:\Users\VIP> powercfg -a
The following sleep states are available on this system:
Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Disconnected

The following sleep states are not available on this system:
Standby (S1)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Standby (S2)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Standby (S3)
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Hibernate
The system firmware does not support hibernation.
Unable to retrieve verbose reasons why sleep states are unavailable on this system.

OK so I didn't disable connected standby properly.
Click to expand...
Hi,
You can also run this command: powercfg.exe /SleepStudy to see what's preventing your pc from sleeping properly.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG STRIX G513RC
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 6800H 3.2-4.7 GHz
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800MHz Dual Channel Crucial
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 3050
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6 inches FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Display
    Hard Drives
    Crucial T500 2TB
    Western Digital Black SN770 2TB
    Keyboard
    RGB Keyboard
After doing it exactly as shown here Enable or Disable Modern Standby Network Connectivity in Windows 11 Tutorial

it now shows S3 is available however this Legacy Kernel thing looks like a malware that Microsoft put in the OS because they are utterly incapable of driving large software projects making decisions or caring about what the result of their work is at all for which they will burn in hell most probably:




powercfg -requests
DISPLAY:
None.

SYSTEM:
None.

AWAYMODE:
None.

EXECUTION:
None.

PERFBOOST:
[DRIVER] Legacy Kernel Caller
Power Manager

ACTIVELOCKSCREEN:
None.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    I will switch to Linux finally Debian and Arch
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    11th Gen i7 mobile with 20C difference between cores
    Motherboard
    it was specifically made by MSI with annoying thermal power and voltage limits I hate it.
    Memory
    DDR4 sodimm in CR1 - nice
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070 mobile max-q not as powerful as desktop 3070 sad
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth headphones Phillips-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung QLED-nice
    Screen Resolution
    4k-very nice
    Hard Drives
    tons
    PSU
    Blew up
    Case
    Fractral Design
    Cooling
    liquid metal
    Keyboard
    Steelseeries and Razer-not as good as should be
    Mouse
    Razer 8k-maybe good for gaming in 23H2?
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps
    Browser
    Crashing
    Antivirus
    Lagging and constantly false positives thanks MS
  • Operating System
    always Problematic
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    cheap secondhand parts from the recycling bin
    CPU
    4c/8t i7 no OC sad
    Motherboard
    ASUS enterprise no auto OC sad
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia 1070 no hdmi freesync sad
    Sound Card
    Realtek and zalman headphones-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32inch VA panel FreeSync 4K-not as nice as should be-sad
    Screen Resolution
    4K--not as nice as should be-sad
    Hard Drives
    lots
    PSU
    new, defective but works
    Case
    Fractal Design-the sound dampening collects bad smells lol
    Cooling
    must delid and liquid metal asap even though its not OC cpu sad
    Mouse
    Razer 8K - more pain than gain
    Keyboard
    Razer 8Khz - horrible software
    Internet Speed
    600Mbps
    Browser
    Still not as good as should be
    Antivirus
    Annoying
    Other Info
    Should switch to Apple TBH
After switching the W11 Power setting to Balanced the Legacy Kernel stopped requesting stuff from powercfg, however now there is this stuff:

Which is normal



powercfg -requests
DISPLAY:
None.

SYSTEM:
[DRIVER] Realtek High Definition Audio (INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0298&SUBSYS_14621315&REV_1001\5&27f9cc86&0&0001)
An audio stream is currently in use.

AWAYMODE:
None.

EXECUTION:
[PROCESS] \Device\HarddiskVolume7\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe
Playing audio

PERFBOOST:
None.

ACTIVELOCKSCREEN:
None.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    I will switch to Linux finally Debian and Arch
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    11th Gen i7 mobile with 20C difference between cores
    Motherboard
    it was specifically made by MSI with annoying thermal power and voltage limits I hate it.
    Memory
    DDR4 sodimm in CR1 - nice
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070 mobile max-q not as powerful as desktop 3070 sad
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth headphones Phillips-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung QLED-nice
    Screen Resolution
    4k-very nice
    Hard Drives
    tons
    PSU
    Blew up
    Case
    Fractral Design
    Cooling
    liquid metal
    Keyboard
    Steelseeries and Razer-not as good as should be
    Mouse
    Razer 8k-maybe good for gaming in 23H2?
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps
    Browser
    Crashing
    Antivirus
    Lagging and constantly false positives thanks MS
  • Operating System
    always Problematic
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    cheap secondhand parts from the recycling bin
    CPU
    4c/8t i7 no OC sad
    Motherboard
    ASUS enterprise no auto OC sad
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia 1070 no hdmi freesync sad
    Sound Card
    Realtek and zalman headphones-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32inch VA panel FreeSync 4K-not as nice as should be-sad
    Screen Resolution
    4K--not as nice as should be-sad
    Hard Drives
    lots
    PSU
    new, defective but works
    Case
    Fractal Design-the sound dampening collects bad smells lol
    Cooling
    must delid and liquid metal asap even though its not OC cpu sad
    Mouse
    Razer 8K - more pain than gain
    Keyboard
    Razer 8Khz - horrible software
    Internet Speed
    600Mbps
    Browser
    Still not as good as should be
    Antivirus
    Annoying
    Other Info
    Should switch to Apple TBH
Now I paused the Edge video, and ran Viber exe so now there is this:

SYSTEM:
[DRIVER] Realtek High Definition Audio (INTELAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0298&SUBSYS_14621315&REV_1001\5&27f9cc86&0&0001)
An audio stream is currently in use.

Which is not normal. I hate it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    I will switch to Linux finally Debian and Arch
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    11th Gen i7 mobile with 20C difference between cores
    Motherboard
    it was specifically made by MSI with annoying thermal power and voltage limits I hate it.
    Memory
    DDR4 sodimm in CR1 - nice
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070 mobile max-q not as powerful as desktop 3070 sad
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth headphones Phillips-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung QLED-nice
    Screen Resolution
    4k-very nice
    Hard Drives
    tons
    PSU
    Blew up
    Case
    Fractral Design
    Cooling
    liquid metal
    Keyboard
    Steelseeries and Razer-not as good as should be
    Mouse
    Razer 8k-maybe good for gaming in 23H2?
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps
    Browser
    Crashing
    Antivirus
    Lagging and constantly false positives thanks MS
  • Operating System
    always Problematic
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    cheap secondhand parts from the recycling bin
    CPU
    4c/8t i7 no OC sad
    Motherboard
    ASUS enterprise no auto OC sad
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia 1070 no hdmi freesync sad
    Sound Card
    Realtek and zalman headphones-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32inch VA panel FreeSync 4K-not as nice as should be-sad
    Screen Resolution
    4K--not as nice as should be-sad
    Hard Drives
    lots
    PSU
    new, defective but works
    Case
    Fractal Design-the sound dampening collects bad smells lol
    Cooling
    must delid and liquid metal asap even though its not OC cpu sad
    Mouse
    Razer 8K - more pain than gain
    Keyboard
    Razer 8Khz - horrible software
    Internet Speed
    600Mbps
    Browser
    Still not as good as should be
    Antivirus
    Annoying
    Other Info
    Should switch to Apple TBH
Bluetooth same issue engages Legacy Kernal driver and prevents standby.

Wow Microsoft you are geniuses, I should totally give you money. Not.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    I will switch to Linux finally Debian and Arch
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    11th Gen i7 mobile with 20C difference between cores
    Motherboard
    it was specifically made by MSI with annoying thermal power and voltage limits I hate it.
    Memory
    DDR4 sodimm in CR1 - nice
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070 mobile max-q not as powerful as desktop 3070 sad
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth headphones Phillips-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung QLED-nice
    Screen Resolution
    4k-very nice
    Hard Drives
    tons
    PSU
    Blew up
    Case
    Fractral Design
    Cooling
    liquid metal
    Keyboard
    Steelseeries and Razer-not as good as should be
    Mouse
    Razer 8k-maybe good for gaming in 23H2?
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps
    Browser
    Crashing
    Antivirus
    Lagging and constantly false positives thanks MS
  • Operating System
    always Problematic
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    cheap secondhand parts from the recycling bin
    CPU
    4c/8t i7 no OC sad
    Motherboard
    ASUS enterprise no auto OC sad
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia 1070 no hdmi freesync sad
    Sound Card
    Realtek and zalman headphones-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32inch VA panel FreeSync 4K-not as nice as should be-sad
    Screen Resolution
    4K--not as nice as should be-sad
    Hard Drives
    lots
    PSU
    new, defective but works
    Case
    Fractal Design-the sound dampening collects bad smells lol
    Cooling
    must delid and liquid metal asap even though its not OC cpu sad
    Mouse
    Razer 8K - more pain than gain
    Keyboard
    Razer 8Khz - horrible software
    Internet Speed
    600Mbps
    Browser
    Still not as good as should be
    Antivirus
    Annoying
    Other Info
    Should switch to Apple TBH
@Try3 will hopefully see this thread. If anybody has wrestled with modern standby it's him. He should be able to give you great advice.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X509DA (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX Vega 10 Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe 1.3
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
After leaving the system for 15 minutes this time instead of resuming from standby - it rebooted and unclean shutdown was reported in the eventlog.

I should totally be using Linux.

But I need this laptop to survive I need to make some money with it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    I will switch to Linux finally Debian and Arch
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    11th Gen i7 mobile with 20C difference between cores
    Motherboard
    it was specifically made by MSI with annoying thermal power and voltage limits I hate it.
    Memory
    DDR4 sodimm in CR1 - nice
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070 mobile max-q not as powerful as desktop 3070 sad
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth headphones Phillips-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung QLED-nice
    Screen Resolution
    4k-very nice
    Hard Drives
    tons
    PSU
    Blew up
    Case
    Fractral Design
    Cooling
    liquid metal
    Keyboard
    Steelseeries and Razer-not as good as should be
    Mouse
    Razer 8k-maybe good for gaming in 23H2?
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps
    Browser
    Crashing
    Antivirus
    Lagging and constantly false positives thanks MS
  • Operating System
    always Problematic
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    cheap secondhand parts from the recycling bin
    CPU
    4c/8t i7 no OC sad
    Motherboard
    ASUS enterprise no auto OC sad
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia 1070 no hdmi freesync sad
    Sound Card
    Realtek and zalman headphones-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32inch VA panel FreeSync 4K-not as nice as should be-sad
    Screen Resolution
    4K--not as nice as should be-sad
    Hard Drives
    lots
    PSU
    new, defective but works
    Case
    Fractal Design-the sound dampening collects bad smells lol
    Cooling
    must delid and liquid metal asap even though its not OC cpu sad
    Mouse
    Razer 8K - more pain than gain
    Keyboard
    Razer 8Khz - horrible software
    Internet Speed
    600Mbps
    Browser
    Still not as good as should be
    Antivirus
    Annoying
    Other Info
    Should switch to Apple TBH
Happened again, the power button was blinking but nothing was waking the laptop from standby. I pushed it normally the same way it wakes from standby normally (did not hold it) and the OS started from boot up again.

Why I have to pay for a new laptop when I will have so much problems with it?

I give up I change my profession to a cowboy or something.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    I will switch to Linux finally Debian and Arch
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    11th Gen i7 mobile with 20C difference between cores
    Motherboard
    it was specifically made by MSI with annoying thermal power and voltage limits I hate it.
    Memory
    DDR4 sodimm in CR1 - nice
    Graphics Card(s)
    3070 mobile max-q not as powerful as desktop 3070 sad
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth headphones Phillips-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung QLED-nice
    Screen Resolution
    4k-very nice
    Hard Drives
    tons
    PSU
    Blew up
    Case
    Fractral Design
    Cooling
    liquid metal
    Keyboard
    Steelseeries and Razer-not as good as should be
    Mouse
    Razer 8k-maybe good for gaming in 23H2?
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps
    Browser
    Crashing
    Antivirus
    Lagging and constantly false positives thanks MS
  • Operating System
    always Problematic
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    cheap secondhand parts from the recycling bin
    CPU
    4c/8t i7 no OC sad
    Motherboard
    ASUS enterprise no auto OC sad
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia 1070 no hdmi freesync sad
    Sound Card
    Realtek and zalman headphones-nice
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32inch VA panel FreeSync 4K-not as nice as should be-sad
    Screen Resolution
    4K--not as nice as should be-sad
    Hard Drives
    lots
    PSU
    new, defective but works
    Case
    Fractal Design-the sound dampening collects bad smells lol
    Cooling
    must delid and liquid metal asap even though its not OC cpu sad
    Mouse
    Razer 8K - more pain than gain
    Keyboard
    Razer 8Khz - horrible software
    Internet Speed
    600Mbps
    Browser
    Still not as good as should be
    Antivirus
    Annoying
    Other Info
    Should switch to Apple TBH
shaftofxistence said:
The Laptop is not going into Standby
Click to expand...
Because it is, as the initial PowerCfg -a results show, an S0 modern standby computer then it enters S0 modern standby when Power options turn the display off.
You can check transitions between power-sleep states in Event viewer.
You can set up an Event viewer, Custom view that lists them.
You can import the Power - Sleep-Hibernate-S0 transitions Custom view I use for this - Import Custom view - #4 - TenForums [read from the line starting with I suggest through to that beginning On a similarly confusing note]
This Custom view definition works in both Win10 & Win11 and in both S3 Sleep computers & S0 Modern standby computers.

shaftofxistence said:
After doing it exactly as shown here Enable or Disable Modern Standby Network Connectivity in Windows 11 Tutorial

it now shows S3 is available
Click to expand...
The results of that change can be misleading.
If the PowerCfg -a results now tell you that S3 Sleep is available, it ought really to merely tell you that the computer is configured for S3 Sleep use. It does not mean that S3 Sleep is "available", that it will work correctly.
I have experienced a computer that became totally unusable after disabling S0 Modern standby despite checking that the PowerCfg -a results said S3 Sleep was available. I had to restore its prior system image to use it properly again.
shaftofxistence said:
the power button was blinking but nothing was waking the laptop from standby
Click to expand...
And I also experienced this symptom. In my case the only way to get the computer 'on' again was to disconnect then reconnect external power and then hold down the power button to force shutdown so that I could then start it.

If you do re-enable S0 Modern standby then you can turn off Connected standby if you want. You mentioned having done so but did not say how.
Enable or disable Modern Standby connectivity in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

If you do re-enable S0 Modern standby then, if you want to use Task scheduler, set Power options, Sleep after ... to Never and never use Start, Power, Sleep.
These precautions prevent S0 Modern standby from sliding into one of its later phases in which user-defined Task scheduler tasks are inhibited.
This is discussed in Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum
And you might also be interested in Power consumption in S0 Modern standby and S3 Sleep - my post #85 - ElevenForum
My tests did not involve any email or WU installing any updates. I was unable to measure any difference in power consumption between Connected & Disconnected [S0 Modern] standby.

I used to dislike S0 Modern standby.
I don't any more.
Since setting Power options, Sleep after ... to Never I have been able to use my S0 Modern standby computers as I wish.


Best of luck,
Denis
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
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