Switch off the monitor manually when you are not working on the notebook to save energy?

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

Would it be useful to switch off / darken the monitor manually when you are not working on the notebook to save energy?

How could one do it?

With my old Notebook with Win 10 I could press Fn+F6 to do it?

Ghot · Sep 25, 2022

@Donk

Hello and welcome to Eleven Forum.

You should probably find and download the user manual for your notebook.
Turning the monitor off should be doable with some key combination.

You can also go to Control Panel > Power Options, and...

I have mine set to turn off after 5 minutes of inactivity.
Then you just move the mouse or press a key to turn it back on.

There's also a couple tweaks to add it to your desktop right click menu...

This tweak will give you "classic" context menus...

Disable "Show more options" context menu in Windows 11 Tutorial

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And this one will add "turn off display" to the desktop right click menu...

Turn Off Display cascading context menu - Add in Windows

How to Add or Remove 'Turn off display' cascading context menu in Windows

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It looks like this...

I especially like: "Lock the computer and turn off the display".
When I know I'll be gone for a while... I know that no one can get on my computer without the logon password.

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

Thank you very much!

Is there really usually a manual for this (HP Laptop »17-cn0623ng« 4J8T1EA #ABD) / each Notebook available? It is not Windows related? I cannot remember to ever had read about such in an manual.

You can also go to Control Panel > Power Options, and...

Thank you for the screenshot. Yes, but that unfortunately turns off the music / sound as well. My Notebook is connected with HDMI to an external Hifi amplifier.

Ghot · Sep 25, 2022

Donk said:
Yes, but that unfortunately turns off the music / sound as well. My Notebook is connected with HDMI to an external Hifi amplifier.

Try the last options then. Add Turn off display to the desktop right click menu.
Then you can just... turn off the display.
I don't know if this will turn off the music or not.
It "doesn't" turn the music off, on my desktop, in either my browser or music player.

As for a manual... you can usually find one by googling the make/model of the notebook with the word: manual
For an HP notebook, you'll probably have to "chat" with some HP person, to find one.

Here's a song to test with...

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

Try the last options then. Add

Sorry, what last options?

Turn off display to the desktop right click menu.

Sorry again, I do not understand. What do I have to do exactly?

As for a manual... you can usually find one by googling the make/model of the notebook with the word: manual

Yes yes, by I did never find one.

For an HP notebook, you'll probably have to "chat" with some HP person, to find one.

Why?

Ghot · Sep 25, 2022

@Donk
You're not from Walkabout Creek, are you?

Go here and do steps 3 to 8 <--- this will give you the "classic' context menu.

Disable "Show more options" context menu in Windows 11 Tutorial

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable having to click on "Show more options" to see the full context menu for your account or all users in Windows 11. When you right click on an item in Windows 11, you will see a new modern condensed context menu with Show more options...

www.elevenforum.com

Then go here and do steps 1 to 11... <--- this will add "turn off display" to that classic context menu.

Turn Off Display cascading context menu - Add in Windows

How to Add or Remove 'Turn off display' cascading context menu in Windows

www.tenforums.com

After you do both... when you right click on your display, you will see this...
When you click on #2, it will turn off your display.

And as for HP... as I said before. There should be a way to turn off the display... built into the notebook.
HP will know where/what that method, is.

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

You're not from Walkabout Creek, are you?

No, I am not, sorry, but if I ever get there, I'd be pleased to meet you at any time.

Oops, this

For an HP notebook, you'll probably have to "chat" with some HP person

has changed to

For an HP notebook, you'll probably have to "chat" with some HP person, to find one.

But if there is no manual findable on the Internet, I would think, even such a HP guy did not have one as well.

Many thanks for the great testing song. That will help a lot.

OK, I will try all of this. Hope, turning off the monitor can be done with a shortcut, clicking that option could be a bit inconvenient. Thank you very much!

Ghot · Sep 25, 2022

Donk said:
No, I am not, sorry, but if I ever get there, I'd be pleased to meet you at any time.

Oops, this

has changed to

But if there is no manual findable on the Internet, I would think, even such a HP guy did not have one as well.

Many thanks for the great testing song. That will help a lot.

OK, I will try all of this. Thank you very much!

In the movie Crocodile Dundee (1986), there was a character named Donk,
and he lived in Walkabout Creek, Australia.

The guy on the left... is Donk. When I saw your account name, this is the 1st thing I thought of.

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

Ah, didn't remember anymore that guy's name. Yes, very sympathic. And looks a lot stronger than me.

Berton · Sep 25, 2022

I had a client a few years ago that would call when her Notebook had nothing on the screen, turned out her weekly housekeeper was dusting things and inadvertently get the Fn + F10 keys pressed and toggled the screen to the VGA Projector/External Monitor port, after two such calls got the owner to recognize those keys toggled between the LCD Panel, the port or both at the same time.

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

So maybe I should get a duster...but this indeed works (without a duster): press and keep pressing Fn, then twice that monitor switcher key (do not know its name, here the F10 key) turns the Notebook monitor off (the second actually on, but that one, the TV, is switched off, so it does not matter (Ihope)), the same pressing again turns it on again.

Is the a way to creat another shortcut do this?

Berton · Sep 25, 2022

Donk said:
So maybe I should get a duster...but this indeed works (without a duster): press and keep pressing Fn, then twice that monitor switcher key (do not know its name, here the F10 key) turns the Notebook monitor off (the second actually on, but that one, the TV, is switched off, so it does not matter (Ihope)), the same pressing again turns it on again.

Is the a way to creat another shortcut do this?

Haven't found one since it's a hardware feature, doesn't depend upon whatever OS is installed.

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

OK, thank you.

Try3 · Sep 25, 2022

Getting manuals for your HP computer

Go to the HP website, hover your cursor on Support, select Software & drivers, identify your product including putting in your Serial number [or telling them to detect it].

In the upper right, above a photo of your type of computer, you'll see a link to Product homepage, click on it.

In the list on the left, click on the list for manuals.
Download the user guide and the [variously-named] Service guide.

Keep bookmarks of the webpage because you'll be able to get straight back to that list in the future to check, for example, for updated hardware drivers [also in the list on the left] & put in your serial number again if necessary to ensure the list is specifically for your hardware.
- I never let HP detect new drivers automatically any more. I always click on All drivers and look myself. Their automatic facility often says no updated drivers available even though the All drivers list shows that there are many new ones.

Best of luck,
Denis

rezpower · Sep 25, 2022

I have been using NirCmd for many years with my old laptop and it was working with no problem. Today I tried it and my screen is behaving in a strange way! Its blinking on and off! I used this command: (async_off) and still have same behavior. Maybe due to the fact that on the new laptop I have two GPU (integrated intel UHD and Nvidia RTX3080)!

fruh · Sep 25, 2022

It's possible to set the power button to turn off the screen in control panel. It's possbile that it works only with S3 sleep, but I thought that S0 standby allowed the music etc to keep playing

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

Thank you very much, Denis,

Made it, everything done.

NirCmd turns off the music / sound as well (like the power button / energy saving button does).

Try3 · Sep 25, 2022

Donk said:
NirCmd turns off the music / sound as well (like the power button / energy saving button does).

Do you have an S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle] computer as somebody mentioned earlier on?
Find out by using this command

Code:

PowerCfg -a

If you have S0 then it enters a special idle mode as soon as your screen turns off.
- S0 progressively inhibits all running processes except for thos MS has made special exceptions for [their Mail app, poss MSOffice Outlook, WU].
Consider
Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and 11 - ElevenForumTutorials
It's easy and also easily reversible so it's worth a shot to see if disabling S0 automatically enables S3 Sleep for you. It does for many people but didn't for me.

I also use a NirCmd shortcut to turn off my display without affecting anything else but I could not use it on my S0 computer because, just as S0 seems to be doing to you, everything turns to idle as soon as S0 kicks in, as soon as the display goes off. I can only use that shortcut on my S0 computer now that I've disabled S0 on it.

Code:

...\NirCmd.exe monitor off

I did use a sort of halfway house approach for a while but decided that disabling S0 was better.
- I set the display to stay on forever in Power options
- I set up a screensaver to kick in on demand by creating a shortcut to it. I used a screensaver that was almost a black screen. I could not find a screensaver that avoided giving any glow off the screen at all so none of them were quite the same as letting the display turn off.

All the best,
Denis

Donk · Sep 25, 2022

This is shown:

Means something like:

The following sleep mode features are available on this system:
Standby (S3)
hibernation
Hybrid sleep mode

The following sleep features are not available on this system:
Standby (S1)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.

Standby (S2)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.

Standby (S0 Low Power - Idle)
This standby state is not supported by the system firmware.

Quick Start
This action is disabled in the current system policy.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
So it somehow sounds like it would not work here.

Thank you for the link!

Try3 · Sep 26, 2022

You do not have S0 [you have a proper computer with S3 Sleep] so there should be nothing to stop you turning off your display using the same NirCmd shortcut as me.
This command does not affect audio playback or any other activities.
...\NirCmd.exe monitor off
Insert the path to wherever you've stuck NirCmd in place of my ...

All the best,
Denis