Solved Win 11 Laptop, dims and brights


Hello. I have a Toshiba Satellite that was org Win 10 upgraded to Win 11.
This quote above is a snip from the original post. I was hoping replying to my own post this would be seen by all that have contributed. I believe all were helpful. At this point I'm watching, it seems to be acting more normal. I worked all your suggestions and added of myself, I mentioned above, to disabling all the Task Schedules that were triggered by "When Idle" ... as it was happening when idling only. I hope this is the best fix and do want to thank you all. I trust I hit everyones LIKE icon. Let me know if I missed. Thank you for hanging in there with me. ":-Dx :clap:👍
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    I have 3 Windows 11 so info here would be subjective.
Next time, try one solution at a time and then you can tell us which solution worked. At present none of us or you is any the wiser.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Pro 23H2 OS build 22631.3374
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    13Mbps
    Browser
    Brave, Edge or Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
On my two Dell laptops, one new, one a decade old the settings for adaptive brightness are in the graphics drivers own App. If set to 'on' the brightness is all over the place in normal usage on battery.

Worth a look to see what graphics your Toshiba uses and if there is some control panel for it. It may even be in the old Windows Control Panel which is still available in W11.

Tbh I thought Toshiba exited the PC market years ago... have a friend with a Satellite laptop and that must be around 12+ yrs old now but it runs W10 OK.

Screenshot 2023-12-12 174818.png
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro x64 24H2 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 7760 Mobile Precision 17"
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Internal
    Hard Drives
    2 x 256Gb SSD
    PSU
    Dell 240 watt
    Mouse
    Dell Premier Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    50Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Default Microsoft Security
, I mentioned above, to disabling all the Task Schedules that were triggered by "When Idle" ... as it was happening when idling only. I hope this is the best fix and do want to thank you all. I trust I hit everyones LIKE icon. Let me know if I missed. Thank you for hanging in there with me. ":-Dx :clap:👍
You should be complimented for being active in your post.

Sometimes a poster will present a problem never to be heard from again.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Ver 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    256gb
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Next time, try one solution at a time and then you can tell us which solution worked. At present none osfvus orvyou is any the wiser
Really? Well I don't know which one specifically worked is that okay? I'd try one and then the other, and another and somehow it all seems to be equalling out it's behaving better but no specific one jumped out as the magic bullet. I can do no better than that. Apologies. ":-\\ :rolleyes:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    I have 3 Windows 11 so info here would be subjective.
Really? Well I don't know which one specifically worked is that okay? I'd try one and then the other, and another and somehow it all seems to be equalling out it's behaving better but no specific one jumped out as the magic bullet. I can do no better than that. Apologies. ":-\\ :rolleyes:
If I were to guess what did the trick I'd say I saw the best progress when I disabled the Scheduled Tasks that ran "when idle" ... so I guess I was the answer. But I wasn't willing to take the credit as I believed all the suggestions tossed in there to the end effect.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    I have 3 Windows 11 so info here would be subjective.
On my two Dell laptops, one new, one a decade old the settings for adaptive brightness are in the graphics drivers own App. If set to 'on' the brightness is all over the place in normal usage on battery.
Truth be told this is an older Toshiba Satellite, I guess they are out of the picture these days. I've had 3 satellites since about 1995 and this one was a rescue. I'd say this was state of the art when Win 10 was just new. But with the hack that everyone is aware of it's running win 11 just fine. I use it for slow sessions and jump on one of the others when I need more power faster. Thanks for your suggestions I will look for those things you pointed out! Thanks!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    I have 3 Windows 11 so info here would be subjective.
Is this setting set to off:

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Same goes for the options from Intel's GCC - as recommended by Mooly?

Also, open a random folder and copy the following in address bar:


Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Power Options

And...

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Also, especially if you have SSD - in search bar copy paste Services and Disable SysMain.

Above 2 settings can cause all kinds of issues - despite of being intended to improve performance. Your system is actually performing better (overall) and more stable/secure - if both settings are disabled.

Putting the PC to Sleep & Turning Off the Display - is more than enough for power saving. After all - the CPU alone has 75 Power Management settings - where the majority are meant for power throttling/saving.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 SP 16 (or Windows 11 SP 2 or Sun Valley 2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
On turning off 'Fast Startup'.

Something I noticed over a few years was that both my PC's had the same issue when I disabled Fast Start and that was that the clock stops synchronising. It has done that through various versions of W10/11 and tbh my reason for turning it off originally was because of Night Light scheduling issues (which turning off Fast Start fixed).

Just something to be aware, it may not happen all hardware configurations but both my Dell laptops exhibited the same behaviour.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro x64 24H2 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 7760 Mobile Precision 17"
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Internal
    Hard Drives
    2 x 256Gb SSD
    PSU
    Dell 240 watt
    Mouse
    Dell Premier Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    50Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Default Microsoft Security
On turning off 'Fast Startup'.

Something I noticed over a few years was that both my PC's had the same issue when I disabled Fast Start and that was that the clock stops synchronising. It has done that through various versions of W10/11 and tbh my reason for turning it off originally was because of Night Light scheduling issues (which turning off Fast Start fixed).

Just something to be aware, it may not happen all hardware configurations but both my Dell laptops exhibited the same behaviour.
That shouldn't be possible if you have internet access and Set time automatically and Set time zone automatically are On. Unless you're using the computer offline - and has a bad battery (since then it would be synced with BIOS time).

The thing about Fast Startup - it's basically a hibernation feature - so your system never truly/properly shutdowns. That's why/how it starts so fast. But that can cause all kinds of problems - even serious ones - if the stored settings get corrupted (an endless loop where the system keeps shunting down - while accessing the hibernation file/stored settings). The system is simply more prone to getting unstable. Yet, if disabled - those settings are flushed (same way it happens with a Restart - also why sometimes - a restart is all it takes to solve issues caused by a corrupted setting/file which gets flushed away) - and the system starts anew every time.

For a similar reason i recommenced Fast Boot - to be disabled as well. Fast boot enabled - basically skips the basic functionality test ran by BIOS, so - if there's a issue with the system (such as failing hardware) - the system might still be able to boot (and then fail the Windows test - and trigger a BSOD) - which increases the chances of more serious damage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 SP 16 (or Windows 11 SP 2 or Sun Valley 2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
That shouldn't be possible if you have internet access and Set time automatically and Set time zone automatically are On. Unless you're using the computer offline - and has a bad battery (since then it would be synced with BIOS time).
It does though, certainly on my two Dell laptops.

This jumps in halfway through that thread but it was totally conclusive:

Both laptops are now running with Fast Start enabled since the Night Light issues seemed to get resolved and the clocks on both sync as they should.

For a similar reason i recommenced Fast Boot - to be disabled as well.
That is something I have never looked into tbh.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro x64 24H2 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 7760 Mobile Precision 17"
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Internal
    Hard Drives
    2 x 256Gb SSD
    PSU
    Dell 240 watt
    Mouse
    Dell Premier Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    50Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Default Microsoft Security
It does though, certainly on my two Dell laptops.

This jumps in halfway through that thread but it was totally conclusive:

Both laptops are now running with Fast Start enabled since the Night Light issues seemed to get resolved and the clocks on both sync as they should.


That is something I have never looked into tbh.

That sounds like Dell being Dell - if their systems have to be kept On all the time (even if an hibernation state) - to be able to display the time correctly in 2023... almost 2024. Most issues that you'll ever encounter on a Dell system - are usually caused by Dell devs. It's like - they've been trying hard to self-sabotage for past decade or so (there was a time when Dell meant something, i mean - still pricey - but more reliable compared to other competitive brands). 🤷‍♂️
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 SP 16 (or Windows 11 SP 2 or Sun Valley 2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
It does though, certainly on my two Dell laptops.

This jumps in halfway through that thread but it was totally conclusive:

Both laptops are now running with Fast Start enabled since the Night Light issues seemed to get resolved and the clocks on both sync as they should.


That is something I have never looked into tbh.

Just remembered - there this App which seems to be made particularly for Dell machines (and others alike). As in: Update Time v1.3 ^^

PS. 526th reason to avoid Dell systems like the plague: almost 2024 and Dell can't even sync time correctly (the most basic feature in the tech industry) - without keeping the system partially (hibernation) open all the time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 SP 16 (or Windows 11 SP 2 or Sun Valley 2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
AT the moment and with no issues needing Fast Start disabling to correct them (its always been the Night Light scheduler that causes problems) all is good. That's interesting though, thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro x64 24H2 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 7760 Mobile Precision 17"
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Internal
    Hard Drives
    2 x 256Gb SSD
    PSU
    Dell 240 watt
    Mouse
    Dell Premier Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    50Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Default Microsoft Security
I wanted to get back to any of you that might be following this issue(s) I've had with the laptop on/off even from shutdown, etc. I seemed to have found a fix. In the BIOS I decided to click on Defaults. I found one that said "Critical Battery Alarm" turned that setting off and it's been a normal laptop for about 72 hours now, no auto startups etc.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    I have 3 Windows 11 so info here would be subjective.
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