Windows 11 drains battery when laptop is shutdown - Fast Startup is disabled


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Hello everyone. I have a MSI GL65 9SD laptop and my laptop loses about 5% of battery every day while the laptop is turned off, and the fast startup is disabled.

My problem is similar to this: Redirecting

The OP in that thread mentioned it could be something with the BIOS. What can I look for mine to make sure the laptop actually shuts down and not entering some sort of sleep/standby state? I disabled C state CPU in BIOS.
 

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Hello everyone. I have a MSI GL65 9SD laptop and my laptop loses about 5% of battery every day while the laptop is turned off.
That is because your laptop is not turned off when you shut it down. It is in Modern Standby.

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For my Dell Latitude 5410 with Modern Standby I have enabled Hibernation and use that when I want it turned off without battery drain. @Try3 may have other suggestions for you.
 

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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

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Hi. I had the same problem with a couple of laptops. I finally tracked it down to not turning off WiFi, not just disconnecting, before shutting down. Laptop now only loses 1/2% when shut down over several days. Hope this helps.
 

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What can I look for mine to make sure the laptop actually shuts down and not entering some sort of sleep/standby state?
 

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Battery drivers say are up to date, altough the date is 2006. I have done the other things in the article, such as reconfiguring power management and unticked all drivers that showed up in wake_armed.

Not sure about 4, they only give example the Intel Management Engine Interface, and it's for disabling turning off device to save power (Allow this device to wake up computer is off and greyed out).

That is because your laptop is not turned off when you shut it down. It is in Modern Standby.

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More here:



For my Dell Latitude 5410 with Modern Standby I have enabled Hibernation and use that when I want it turned off without battery drain. @Try3 may have other suggestions for you.
Great. Any way to have it disabled all together? I disabled hybernation. Is there a way to disable sleep mode as well so it won't enter standby?
 

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Hi. I had the same problem with a couple of laptops. I finally tracked it down to not turning off WiFi, not just disconnecting, before shutting down. Laptop now only loses 1/2% when shut down over several days. Hope this helps.
How did you make sure the wifi completely turns off?
I have done the PlatformAoAcOverride tutorial and now my only state is S3.

When I do windows -> Shutdown, does this mean my computer completely turns off, or is it now entering state S3?
 

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When I do windows -> Shutdown, does this mean my computer completely turns off
No, it should fully power off and when it does sleep, it will go into a far deeper sleep state which should hopefully conserve more of your battery power. If you want to be certain, then you can always use the following command from command prompt:

Code:
shutdown /p
 

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No, it should fully power off and when it does sleep, it will go into a far deeper sleep state which should hopefully conserve more of your battery power. If you want to be certain, then you can always use the following command from command prompt:

Code:
shutdown /p
I'm confused. I'm looking to completely shutdown my computer so that battery will no longer drain.

Wasn't S0 used for deeper sleep state, and now I disabled that so hopefully the computer fully shuts down? S3 I assume would consumes a lot more battery than S0 would, but I don't care as I want for my laptop to fully shutdown.

The documentation says /p shuts the computer but the power to the computer remains on. Why would I want to use /p??
 

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The documentation says /p shuts the computer but the power to the computer remains on. Why would I want to use /p??
That's if your machine doesn't support an S5 state, otherwise just use another switch like /s.

Wasn't S0 used for deeper sleep state, and now I disabled that so hopefully the computer fully shuts down? S3 I assume would consumes a lot more battery than S0 would, but I don't care as I want for my laptop to fully shutdown.
No, that isn't the case:

The system appears to be off. The amount of power consumed in states S1-S3 is less than S0 and more than S4.
Source:
I'm confused. I'm looking to completely shutdown my computer so that battery will no longer drain.
It will shutdown the system if you select the shut down option, however, if you leave your machine to idle and power settings dictate that the machine will sleep, then it will immediately go to the S3 sleep state rather than progressively go into a "deeper" sleep state. Alternatively, if you select the sleep option, then it should immediately go to S3 instead of S0.
 

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I finally tracked it down to not turning off WiFi, not just disconnecting, before shutting down.
As in Device Manager > Right click on Wifi-device > Disable or Settings > Network/Internet > Wi-fi > Off?
 

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That's if your machine doesn't support an S5 state, otherwise just use another switch like /s.


No, that isn't the case:


Source:

It will shutdown the system if you select the shut down option, however, if you leave your machine to idle and power settings dictate that the machine will sleep, then it will immediately go to the S3 sleep state rather than progressively go into a "deeper" sleep state. Alternatively, if you select the sleep option, then it should immediately go to S3 instead of S0.
Oh i understand now. Thanks.
As in Device Manager > Right click on Wifi-device > Disable or Settings > Network/Internet > Wi-fi > Off?
Oh, I thought it was something automated to have it off at shutdown. I don't want to have to do that all the time manually.
 

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All I needed to do was click on the WiFi icon in system tray/ more WiFi settings and toggle WiFi off before shutting down. This worked for both Windows 10 and 11 PC's. I turned off Modern Standby beforehand but it didn't make any difference to the battery % loss.
 

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All I needed to do was click on the WiFi icon in system tray/ more WiFi settings and toggle WiFi off before shutting down. This worked for both Windows 10 and 11 PC's. I turned off Modern Standby beforehand but it didn't make any difference to the battery % loss.
Got it! :)

Modern Standby is turned off here but does not matter here as well, iow the battery drains out when the computer is turned off. Will test to turn off the Wi-Fi! :)
 

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my laptop loses about 5% of battery every day while the laptop is turned off
1 Lenovo Support claims that losing 2% a day is normal. I'd never noticed it before because I don't leave my computers turned off for long enough. So my new Lenovo, which I only use intermittently, is the only example I have of a computer that spends a lot of time turned off and it loses 2% a day just as Lenovo Support said.

2 How worn out is your battery? Run a PowerCfg Battery report to find out the ratio of Full charge capacity to Design capacity. The syntax is
PowerCfg /batteryreport /output "C:\Users\%UserName%\Desktop\BatteryReport.html" /Duration 1
battery report main parameters.png

3 If it is shut down then it is shutdown; S0 Modern standby or not.
By the way, you can check whether or not you have S0 Modern standby by running the command
PowerCfg -a
This command can be run in Terminal using either the PowerShell or Command prompt modes.

4 If you want to make sure that you are really shutting down then ignore the Start menu and shut down using this command instead:-
shutdown.exe /s /t 0 /f
This command can also be run in Terminal using either the PowerShell or Command prompt modes.

5 Whilst I do not think it is significant in this case, Bios settings can have an effect. If, for example, your Bios allows you to power external USB devices when shutdown then making use of that facility would drain the battery.

Best of luck,
Denis
 
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How did you make sure the wifi completely turns off?

I have done the PlatformAoAcOverride tutorial and now my only state is S3.

When I do windows -> Shutdown, does this mean my computer completely turns off, or is it now entering state S3?
It doesn't as it will just shut down to hibernation mode regardless if you use S0 or S3.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but when you do Start Menu -> Power, hold down the shift key when you click on the Shutdown option as the shift key is supposed to do a real full shutdown. This works whether you’re clicking the option in the Start menu, on the sign-in screen, or on the screen that appears after you press Ctrl+Alt+Delete.

Quoting from the internet and modifying it so it is more clear:
"Shift + Shutdown is a way of forcing Windows 10/11 to shut down all the apps and sign out all the users for a full shutdown.
When you shutdown without holding the shift key, the system will just do the usual hybrid shutdown or hibernation which allows the system to pick up from where you left off."
 
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All I needed to do was click on the WiFi icon in system tray/ more WiFi settings and toggle WiFi off before shutting down. This worked for both Windows 10 and 11 PC's. I turned off Modern Standby beforehand but it didn't make any difference to the battery % loss.

Got it! :)

Modern Standby is turned off here but does not matter here as well, iow the battery drains out when the computer is turned off. Will test to turn off the Wi-Fi! :)
Wifi didn't help because I often use airplane mode to tether via USB from my phone. So often I shutdown the computer on airplane mode and the battery still drains

It doesn't as it will just shut down to hibernation mode regardless if you use S0 or S3.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but when you do Start Menu -> Power, hold down the shift key when you click on the Shutdown option as the shift key is supposed to do a real full shutdown. This works whether you’re clicking the option in the Start menu, on the sign-in screen, or on the screen that appears after you press Ctrl+Alt+Delete.

Quoting from the internet and modifying it so it is more clear:
"Shift + Shutdown is a way of forcing Windows 10/11 to shut down all the apps and sign out all the users for a full shutdown.
When you shutdown without holding the shift key, the system will just do the usual hybrid shutdown or hibernation which allows the system to pick up from where you left off."
Unfortunately pressing shift while shutting down doesn't seem to be doing anything. I still lose battery while the laptop is turned off.
 

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It doesn't as it will just shut down to hibernation mode regardless if you use S0 or S3.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but when you do Start Menu -> Power, hold down the shift key when you click on the Shutdown option as the shift key is supposed to do a real full shutdown. This works whether you’re clicking the option in the Start menu, on the sign-in screen, or on the screen that appears after you press Ctrl+Alt+Delete.

Quoting from the internet and modifying it so it is more clear:
"Shift + Shutdown is a way of forcing Windows 10/11 to shut down all the apps and sign out all the users for a full shutdown.
When you shutdown without holding the shift key, the system will just do the usual hybrid shutdown or hibernation which allows the system to pick up from where you left off."
1 Lenovo Support claims that losing 2% a day is normal. I'd never noticed it before because I don't leave my computers turned off for long enough. So my new Lenovo, which I only use intermittently, is the only example I have of a computer that spends a lot of time turned off and it loses 2% a day just as Lenovo Support said.

2 How worn out is your battery? Run a PowerCfg Battery report to find out the ratio of Full charge capacity to Design capacity. The syntax is
PowerCfg /batteryreport /output "C:\Users\%UserName%\Desktop\BatteryReport.html" /Duration 1
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3 If it is shut down then it is shutdown; S0 Modern standby or not.
By the way, you can check whether or not you have S0 Modern standby by running the command
PowerCfg -a
This command can be run in Terminal using either the PowerShell or Command prompt modes.

4 If you want to make sure that you are really shutting down then ignore the Start menu and shut down using this command instead:-

This command can also be run in Terminal using either the PowerShell or Command prompt modes.

5 Whilst I do not think it is significant in this case, Bios settings can have an effect. If, for example, your Bios allows you to power external USB devices when shutdown then making use of that facility would drain the battery.

Best of luck,
Denis
After trying everything in this thread I think my only hope is maybe something in BIOS. Because I still lose about 2-3% a day and it's extremely annoying.

Attached is how my BIOS looks. Maybe there's something I'm missing. I have even disabled C state in BIOS hoping that might've been it.
Does MSI gaming laptops have a hidden BIOS that I can enable? I know my old gigabyte mobo had an advance mode. Is there a way to enable more options on the MSI? For example, where does Dragon Centre changes the battery charging in BIOS? Because like I mentioned, I capped it at 60%, and even after a full format with HDD wipped out, my laptop would now no longer charge past 60% until I reinstalled Dragon Centre to change the settings in there. So it must definitely write this in BIOS somewhere no?
 

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