fresh install vs loading image


smoothnobody

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i just built a new computer. i had an windows image with all my programs and settings exactly the way i like it. doing it all over sucks and takes a few hours. but i decided to install fresh windows. the thought i had was i'm going from X570 chipset with DDR4 to X650E chipset with DDR5 and didn't want any potential conflicts loading an old image on different hardware. but now that's it's done i'm wondering, would this work? drivers is my first concern, but i guess i could uninstall the old stuff. the next thought was windows assigns every computer a unique identifying number and not sure how it would respond to a new board and cpu. can you guys think of any other potential problems? has anybody ever tried this?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
    CPU
    3800X
    Motherboard
    X570 aorus xtreme
    Memory
    16gb 3800 / CL14
    Graphics Card(s)
    3080 TI
    Hard Drives
    980 pro
    PSU
    1000w titanium
Back it up now and then try restoring from your older image. Macrium Reflect can restore to different hardware. If you have trouble activating it, phone MS and they will fix it. We will be very interested to hear how you get on.
If it doesn't work, you can restore from the image you just made.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Pro 23H2 OS build 22631.3374
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    13Mbps
    Browser
    Brave, Edge or Firefox
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
would this work?
I expect so. Check the motherboard website for drivers.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
i just built a new computer. i had an windows image with all my programs and settings exactly the way i like it. doing it all over sucks and takes a few hours. but i decided to install fresh windows. .... but now that's it's done i'm wondering, would this work? drivers is my first concern, but i guess i could uninstall the old stuff. the next thought was windows assigns every computer a unique identifying number and not sure how it would respond to a new board and cpu. can you guys think of any other potential problems? has anybody ever tried this?
Have you installed and activated Windows on the new computer? If so then it has a digital licence on the MS activation servers for the edition you installed, Home or Pro. Any image of that same edition will activate from the existing digital licence.

My main laptop had Windows 10 and all my programs and settings just as I wanted them, but it was too old to be supported for Windows 11. So I bought another one that was a supported device, restored an image of my old W10 machine to it, then upgraded to 11 as soon as it was offered in Windows Update.

I have the paid for version of Macrium Reflect that has an option to restore to dissimilar hardware, but I didn't need to use that option. I just restored the image 'as is' and Windows sorted out the drivers it needed at first boot up. All worked perfectly, despite the massive hardware differences - the old laptop was an Intel based machine and the new one was entirely AMD, it is my System One in My Computers below.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
doing it all over sucks and takes a few hours.
For me it takes days, and it does suck big time.

Have I ever done it? Yes. But my OCD never let me feel comfortable about doing it so at some point I clean installed anyway.

My opinion on this differs from most everyone else's. While I do agree 11 is very good with sorting out and using the correct drivers, I do not want a bunch of old unused drivers in my driver store that could in any way jump up and bite me in the butt later on. Also, although I keep my system as clean as I can make it, there still junk in it. If I get a new machine, I consider that the perfect time to start with a new, clean OS to go along with the new hardware.

Something other than drivers you need to consider is your paid software. Whether you image or clean install, be sure you deactivate any licenses you may have for paid software before you image your old computer. Then you can easily register the software on your new one. In most cases these licenses are tied to the hardware. It will save you a lot of grief on the new machine
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
In years past not having imaging software and before the backup to VHD file came along, applying to desktops however, I would run into the activation issue when moving the OS as well as other drives into a new custom build with enough hardware issue to force the fresh install and then have to call MS in order to see the transfer was made as far as the product key. The same for existing copies of Windows where the drivers from one build had to be cleaned off totally if there was too much of a hardware difference.

With any brand new machine an OEM laptop or desktop you would find they either have a recovery partition or recovery media included. Restoration of an image from another machine could put you in harm's way unless seeing to the advice kelper gave you on first seeing to creating a full system image that you can restore the new laptop with just in case of any mishap?
As for time it may take? Try weeks at a time here multibooting OSs and presently seeing the latest Macrium Reflect release creating a full image of 11 as a clone to a larger destination not being able to see a clean install take place due to the TPM 2.0 issue. For older desktops there is a separate TPM 2.0 module being looked into that provides the required support in order to be able to simply toss on a clean install if and when needed.

One thing to know however is that see image backups made can also take some time! But you don't generally have to attend to each program installed once made and restored while a fresh install on the other hand sees the correct device drivers downloaded as each bit of hardware goes through the detection process. Generally the support site will point you to the correct updates when you enter the model information.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    W11 Pro 2nd install 1TB OS HD pending, 10 Pro x64 dual boot with 7 Ultimate x64 1TB HDs
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Phenon II 3.6ghz Quad Core
    Motherboard
    GIgabyte GA-790XTA-UD4
    Memory
    16GB Corsair
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon - AVerTV TV Tuner card additional live cable feed
    Sound Card
    Creative Audigy EAX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" Other dual monitor setup pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar 500GB W11 Pro 1TB HDs for W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 Dual Boot soon to be Pending Triple OS Boot
    PSU
    Cosair 750 watt 1st build
    Case
    ANTEC 900 V2 Gaming model
    Cooling
    Top Fan 8" Drive bay fans two 3" in repair
    Keyboard
    ONN USB/Cordless
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless, ONN USB
    Internet Speed
    Cable 5G promising 10G coming?
    Browser
    Several: Edge, FireFox, FireFox "Nightly" recently added, WaterFox 64bit, CyberFox 64bit, Chrome required for Google account, Opera, SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    VIPRE Internet Security suite
    Other Info
    Second and third Micro ATX builds: 3rd build presently For Parts Only Second W7 Pro x64 could see 11 Pro rebuild project under upgrade for W11 consideration. Twin case top fan and drive fasteners stripped from twin case.
  • Operating System
    Presently ??? W7 Pro x64 pending W11 Pro possible, Open Source OS Live or VM?
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Atholon II quad core 3.2ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte
    Memory
    8gb Kingston
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon DVI
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