Is OneDrive actually of any use?


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I've already several backups of my files, both local and online, but on the basis of 'you can't have too many backups' and despite previously checking out OneDrive without being very encouraged to use it, I thought I'd take another look at it. What I'm finding is that despite my local OneDrive folder always being up-to-date, the online files are not. There doesn't appear to be any way of reliably assessing how far behind they are but it's usually several hours, which isn't of much use to me I'm afraid. Is this the norm, or is there something I can do about it?
 

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Q: Is OneDrive actually of any use?

A: No. Use backup software.





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Hi Ghot :-) Yes, I'm a long time user of Macrium Home, which is great for system images, and several file backup systems too. I just wanted OneDrive to provide even greater file security, but not really encouraged atm.
 

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Hi Ghot :-) Yes, I'm a long time user of Macrium Home, which is great for system images, and several file backup systems too. I just wanted OneDrive to provide even greater file security, but not really encouraged atm.


IMO... it far more trouble than it's worth. Not to mention, these Cloud storage entities, keep getting hacked.
They are fairly tasty targets.

So you don't want to be putting any thing like this, on One Drive...

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I don't find it any trouble at all to use - it's just the disappointing performance.
 

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IMO... it far more trouble than it's worth. Not to mention, these Cloud storage entities, keep getting hacked.
They are fairly tasty targets.
I always use OneDrive to save my documents, photos and music. Always kept up to date and accessible anywhere. I also use Macrium but find OneDrive really convenient.
 

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@fixer
The only problem with OneDrive is a ton of negative comments you can find about it online.

I find OneDrive very useful and no amount of additional backup hard drives is enough to render OneDrive useless.
You only need not forget about privacy, any files you care about in terms of privacy, before you put them into OneDrive should be encrypted to ensure nobody except you can read them.

OneDrive gives you 5GB's for free, that's a lot of storage if you use it wisely.

Imagine you have 10 backup hard drives in your house, ex. if one dies you have another one and you might think that this way there is no way lose your data.
Now image your house catches fire and render all your 10 hard drives useless!
The point is that the fire won't catch Microsoft servers lol, you just enter password and get your data back.
 

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My question was not about its usefulness but whether there is any way to speed up OneDrive sync.
 

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My question was not about its usefulness but whether there is any way to speed up OneDrive sync.
Ah sorry, yeah there must be a way to troubleshoot it, but I'm not sure how, didn't have any sync problems so far.

Note that if you place a file with same checksum into OneDrive as one online the sync might not trigger, timestamp of the online version might be older than timestamp on local drive and so it would be wrong to assume files are out of date because they aren't.
 

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My OneDrive sync has everything to do with my Internet speed. I have a reasonably brisk Internet connection and my OneDrive sync is about one or two seconds. I've used OneDrive as one of my backup methods for over 15 years with no problems. I have a Microsoft 365 subscription which includes 1TB of cloud OneDrive.
 

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What I'm finding is that despite my local OneDrive folder always being up-to-date, the online files are not
Can you please explain how you determine that online files are not up to date?
Maybe taking a screenshot of the file online and same file in local onedrive?

edit:
Here is example of 2 screenshots of same file, one online another local:


Local:
Screenshot 2023-12-25 173135.png
Online:
Screenshot 2023-12-25 173148.png

They both show same time and date and same size, can you reproduce similar with your case to show 2 files are different?
 

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Can you please explain how you determine that online files are not up to date?
One of the files I maintain twice a day for my doctor is my BP. The local file is typically updated about 9AM each day. I keep a watch on the online file, i.e. I download it, and today was typical - the online file got updated about five hours later. Don't have a live example atm but that example typifies what I am saying.
 

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@TraderGary My internet connection is good, downloads about 150mbs and uploads about 30 mbps and virtually never drops out. I'm using the free 5gb of OneDrive storage and, apart from the delay, seems completely reliable. Thanks for jumping in :cool:
 

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My question was not about its usefulness but whether there is any way to speed up OneDrive sync.
The sync is instantaneous, maybe you have setup metered connection or something? You can try to re-sync or re-install it.
 

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When you put a new version of the file into OneDrive you should see this sync icon within OneDrive folder for the file that was copied over old file:
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Once the icon changes to green checkmark it has been uploaded online
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If it takes 5 hours for the file to be uploaded then you should be seeing the first icon for 5 hours.

You can test it with any file right now, create a blank text file on your desktop with random contents, put in into onedrive and let it upload,
then modify file on your desktop, save it and replace local file in onedrive (copy\paste) with new one from desktop, copying new file over old file in ondrive should trigger blue sync icon, see how long it takes for the icon to change to green checkmark.

It should take max. 2 minutes.
Does it take longer?

 

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Q: Is OneDrive actually of any use?

A: No. Use backup software.
You had a 50:50 chance of getting answer right. Pity you got it wrong.

Onedrive is much more than backup software.

It enables access to data when away from home.

It enables backup of critical data away from home environment in case of fire etc.

So it might not be useful to you, but it is to lots of people.
 

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    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I wouldn't be without one drive; it's one of the most useful features of modern windows.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Sound BlasterX Katana
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    ASUS ROG THOR 850W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    ASUS ROG Strix Helios Midi-Tower ARGB Gaming Case
    Cooling
    ASUS ROG Strix LC Performance RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 360mm
    Keyboard
    Logi Ergo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    900/100 Mbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Pro
    Other Info
    HP M281 Printer
    Logitech Brio Stream webcam
    Yeti X mic
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop
    CPU
    i7
@zebal I just ran your test. The local file was updated instantaneously, as was the changed version when I saved it over the top. However the online version has not shown at all yet.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lafite 14
    CPU
    i7
    Memory
    16Gb
    Internet Speed
    150Mbps/39Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PC Specialist
    CPU
    i5
    Memory
    8Gb
    Internet Speed
    150Mbps/39Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Incompatible device, upgraded to Win 11
@fixer
That's strange because I've run the test now and the file appeared online as soon as icon changed to green checkmark.
I also copied over modified version and the contents were synced to online version, both file show same text.

Please double check you're checking same file location, ex. if local file is within folder then online file should be withing same folder name.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI / MS-7B29
    CPU
    Intel i3 8100 @3.6Ghz
    Motherboard
    H310M PRO-VDH (MS-7B29)
    Memory
    1 x 16GB DDR4 @2400 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GT 1030 2GB SDDR4
    Sound Card
    Realtek VEN_10EC&DEV_0887 / NVIDIA VEN_10DE&DEV_0081
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer V226HQL
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 500 GB Crucial MX500 / HDD 1 TB TOSHIBA DT01ACA100
    PSU
    ATX, details unknown
    Case
    Everest 551B
    Cooling
    details unknown
    Keyboard
    Mechanical Gaming Hydra R7 - Rampage
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Internet Speed
    Down: 28Mbps / Up: 19Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender Antivirus
    Other Info
    Bluetooth: TP Link 5.0 Nano USB adapter UB500
    WLAN: D-Link 150 Pico USB adapter, N standard
    Web camera: Logitech C270 HD 720p @30fps
    Microphone: Trust MICO, model 23790

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